Sorry Kel I haven't heard of them. You know my GP tried to prescribe one of two appetite suppressants for me last night but I said no cos I wanted to do LL first. I'm not sure which he was going to prescribe. I've taken Xenical before now tho and hated em!. Sorry I'm not much help. You can but try them tho - just make sure you're aware of what to expect side effect wise so you aren't taken by surprise. Good luck babe

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