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    Hi GG, have moved this into general diet area as it seemed inappropriate in the CD forum.
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    you not seen "the biggest loser" on TV?
    They use personal trainers and eat sensibly and manage 7-10lbs a week

    I know a lot of people put it back on but thats where the CD maintenece steps come in??

    It is a good read, it's nice to see another opinion on something i suppose.
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    Bless that blogger. Who is he and why has he got so much out of date info
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    mmm an article mainly on vlcd and not appropeite for cb, what is the world coming to??? did you read it DQ???

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    again, not he but she, lol, seems.

    another good read. that i thought was interesting

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    Last edited by Pierce : 18th November, 2007 at 07:14 PM Reason: removed, see my post below

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    Interesting. Again, much about the slowing down of the metabolism. You are aware that theory has now been seriously disproved?

    It only slows it short term, that it goes back to how it was.

    I like to keep up with the lates info
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    Personally I prefer to stick to proven scientific medical research which has since disproved alot of the theories in these articles, rather than gurus and blogs.

    In the interest of trying to have an open discussion do you mind me asking why you come across as having such an issue with people who chose to do a VLCD, isn't it just personal choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnomesGnuts View Post
    mmm an article mainly on vlcd and not appropeite for cb, what is the world coming to??? did you read it DQ???
    GG, I've said all I'm going to say on the whole subject. You know my/admin's position and it's your choice what you choose to post.
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    The "how not to lose weight" site is a site that is based on something called an AdSense Turnkey Site.

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    I dont have issues. Just dont agree with the overall concensus that vlcds are the miracle solution to weightloss situation, these are blogs, I know that, but they are interesting, and noone is really sure why after a vlcd people put weight back on so easily, its very concerning, the silent side effects which everyone is worried about, excess skin, muscle loss, hard to maintain. The fact that many are maintaining being life long users of vlcd products to make sure their calories are low enough to maintain their weight. In many ways, its a lose weight first attitude, worry about these side effects later! But at what cost, years of reconstructive surgery for the unlucky one who's not blessed with the genetics of good elastic skin, having to live on alot fewer calories or risk years and years of yo-yo dieting, hairloss, which many people suffer from, if you are unlucky. Success on a vlcd is a (high) number loss any week, no matter what the loss content really is, you cant beat physics. I just think, that abit of reality now and again is needed, i am 20stone, i did it for a month, but i had these nags, I doubt I am blessed with miracle stretchy skin and know that I will be left with a stomach I will have to tuck into my knickers, candle wax effect thighs, and hairloss thown in if Im unlucky, not to mention breasts like dogs ears, as I have very big breasts, if I carry on with it, so yes I am hoping and banking on, that weightloss coupled with a hard 5times a week exercise at the gym, will make huge differences, so its a choice, I know that to lose weight, the amount I have to lose will result in the body I have described above, perhaps if i choose a different route it may turn out different, hopefully, Im banking on it. Im lucky to be able to picture the future realistically, and over 10stone to lose, I can only lose it once the first time, so i have to make sure i take the right route for the results I want, I dont see me getting a toned body and an increase in my metobolic rate, and a successful chance of maintenance from a vlcd.

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    Thanks for that GG, glad you have made your choice and that you are happy with that. Good luck with your weight loss programme.

    Now let others make there own choices too.

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    Hiya again GG
    Quote Originally Posted by GnomesGnuts View Post
    I dont have issues. Just dont agree with the overall concensus that vlcds are the miracle solution to weightloss situation,
    You know, I don't think anyone does. They aren't a miracle solution. They are a solution for some, not for others. I guess we all try (yes really try and even temporarily succeed with some diets, then things go wrong and some of us then try a VLCD. I wasn't looking for a miracle. I was looking for something that would work for me....and I found it.
    noone is really sure why after a vlcd people put weight back on so easily,
    I know why Same reason as anyone on any diet puts the weight back on.

    the silent side effects which everyone is worried about, excess skin, muscle loss, hard to maintain.
    Indeed....with any diet.
    In many ways, its a lose weight first attitude, worry about these side effects later! But at what cost, years of reconstructive surgery for the unlucky one who's not blessed with the genetics of good elastic skin,
    Oh no Not still on about excess skin GG? Thought that had been done to a death. It seems we haven't convinced you

    I just think, that abit of reality now and again is needed,
    Indeed. Hey. Seen Bagpuss's message. How fab is that. Good on her.
    I doubt I am blessed with miracle stretchy skin and know that I will be left with a stomach I will have to tuck into my knickers, candle wax effect thighs, and hairloss thown in if Im unlucky, not to mention breasts like dogs ears, as I have very big breasts, if I carry on with it,
    But I guess you will carry on with your diet and take the consequences? Tough eh, but you'll feel so much better once you've lost the weight. I know I feel fab now. You've got it to come And yes, you may have baggy skin, but I reckon you'll still look fab

    I dont see me getting a toned body and an increase in my metobolic rate, and a successful chance of maintenance from a vlcd.
    Some people do struggle with different diets. I was certainly worried about maintenance when I was calorie counting. Hope it all goes well for you GG. I know you are very anti VLCD's and I'm pleased you've found your solution.

    I hope it works for you and you wont ever be in a position to have a hospital or doctor suggest that you do a VLCD. I'd hate to think what your reply would be
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    Thanks GG for expanding, I don't want you to feel that you were being ganged up on as you mentioned in your other post. It's more a case of just allowing everyone to make their own choices. You are not a fan of VLCDs and that's fine but I don't understand the need to try and convert everyone to your way of thinking. My personal experience has been extremely positive. I have been overweight for over 15 years and never managed to lose it. I am now less than a stone away from my BMI 25 and my fat to muscle ratio is in the low 30s so not far off the guidelines. I have more energy and feel healthier than I have for years. Basically nobody can persuade me that this hasn't been the right decision for me just like no one can persuade you that they are a good idea - but isn't that okay, we agree to differ? I think the reason people reacted so strongly is that you are posting on a CD forum where everyone is very happy doing the diet and it came across as you trying to force your opinions on others.

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