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blue_grapefruit · 24th July, 2008

Hello

I've finally decided to follow the wonderful world of vegetarian dining, but throwing in some fish so really it is described as Pesco-vegetarianism (Thanks Bimjob). I hope to lose weight and cleanse my body of bad saturated fats that are found in red meats, as well as helping in the fight against animal cruelty.

You don't need to share my opinions on animal welfare or even agree with any forms of vegetarianism to post here, i just want to write some meal plans, keep a relatively strict food diary, and write about my struggles with adapting to vegetarianism.

I'm not a big meat eater anyway. I rarely eat meat apart from free range chicken, and if i do then it's usually at a friends house and i'm too polite to say no

I still intend on eating eggs, dairy, fish gelatines (oh god, thats gunna be SUCH a struggle) and all types of fish, fruit and veg. I will exclude fish eggs as I believe it's wrong to farm fish for their eggs, and will try my best to be as creative as possible with menus.

This thread will not show any pictures of animal cruelty or discuss hot animal welfare related topics, nor will I attempt to turn you lot into hippies

This, I promise.

There is growing evidence on the effects of red meat on the body, and this along with the food that animals are reared on alarms me greatly, so tomorrow will be my first day as a trainee veggie. I will be doing some research on the right vitamins to take until i learn where i can get my vits from natural food sources, and attempt to include them in my healthy meals.

Wish me luck - this is going to be the biggest change for me ever, yet i'm so happy just to have come to this decision.

ooooh, Oli is going to KILL me

xxx

blue_grapefruit · 24th July, 2008

OH. MY. GOD.

Firstly, why am I up at 4am researching vegetarianism?

Secondly, Apologies in advance to any veggies out there who believe as strongly as a forum i just read that eating fish is still eating flesh. It seems that some people REALLY hate fish-eating-veggies to call themselves vegetarians so I will label myself a pescetarian. Who knows, i may cut out the fish when i can learn to cook healthy veggie meals and source my Omega 3s elsewhere.....

I tell you what though, it's startling how much mercury and waste can be found in sea-caught fish

I know this is a serious topic, but I've just come across this:

"If it had a head, then don't eat it. In fact, forget that, some lettuces have heads as do flowers...Ok, don't eat anything that has had an anus. Oh, but some sea creatures only have one opening which serves as both.....Ok, just don't eat the obvious and don't eat seafood...I'm confusing myself....erm, don't eat anything with a central nervous system? That will do"

What am i getting myself into?

EDIT: http://www.fishinghurts.com/healthConcerns.asp

Dancing · 24th July, 2008

good luck.... just want to mention that i managed to put on loads of weight while being vege. So keep an eye on the portion sizes and make sure you are prepared with healthy snacks ... I kept relying on bread for a quick snack.

Good luck
x

Shazpaz · 24th July, 2008

Good luck hun. I wish I had the will power to be a veggie. I love the reasons behind it, but am not in the right place to do it yet. I'm interested to find out how you get on though.

Good luck.xx

blue_grapefruit · 24th July, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancing

good luck.... just want to mention that i managed to put on loads of weight while being vege. So keep an eye on the portion sizes and make sure you are prepared with healthy snacks ... I kept relying on bread for a quick snack.

Good luck
x

Thanks Dancing, I think I'm quite lucky that I've never really eaten bread. I have toast on very special occasions and If i ever have sandwiches it's at other peoples houses so it's easy to avoid

Actually rely heavily on frozen fruit for snacks. Grapes are amazing frozen, as are peach cubes and apples

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shazpaz

Good luck hun. I wish I had the will power to be a veggie. I love the reasons behind it, but am not in the right place to do it yet. I'm interested to find out how you get on though.

Good luck.xx

Well I'll tell you the good and bad I promise

xxx

blue_grapefruit · 24th July, 2008

Kitteh just asked me why i'm eating fish...

It's purely cos i need to learn to be a vegetarian the proper way. I don't want to use "pretend meats" for every meal. I want to use seeds, pulses, ryes, wheats and proper substitues for meat. I'm in no way knocking tofu and quorn as i plan to use them a lot, I just need to transition into vegetarianism with no regrets.

I know I can get my omega 3 supply from other sources, I will just have to take it easy until i learn to cook properly

Kitteh · 24th July, 2008

kitteh is a bad bad girl

x

Shazpaz · 24th July, 2008

owwwwww I'm loving the sound of frozen fruits. I'll buy some grapes today.

blue_grapefruit · 24th July, 2008

So far today I've eaten:

Warm shreddies with skimmed milk (YUM!)

Lunch was homemade tomato and herb sauce with a lil bit of pasta and some fresh spinach leaves

Dinner was homemade sweet and sour sauce, with stir fryed red & yellow peppers, onions, mushrooms, and half a cup full of brown rice. Oli added chicken to his, and loved the sauce so all good

Snacks: Had a plum, nectarine, some natural yoghurt with blackberries and a handful of nuts.

I would work out the calories but i can't be bothered

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

blue_grapefruit · 25th July, 2008

As a new veggie I was worried about protein intake, however I've found FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and filled a few days in with some obvious meal choices and found that i'm over the recommended protein intake every day, even double some days. It's startling how much protein is in vegetables.

Asparagus 3g
Aubergine 1g
Beans 9g
Beetroot 2g
Broccoli 3g
Brussels Sprouts 3g
Cabbage average 1g
Carrot 0.5g
Cauliflower 3g
Celery 0.5g
Chicory 0.6g
Courgette 2g
Cucumber 0.5g
Fennel 1g
Gherkins 1g
Leek 1.6g
Lettuce 0.7g
Marrow 0.5g
Mushroom 2g
Okra 2.4g
Onion 0.7g
Onion (Spring) 2g
Parsnip 1.5g
Peas 7g
Peppers 1g
Potato 1.6g
Pumpkin 0.5g
Radish 0.7g
Spinach 2g
Swede 0.5g
Sweetcorn 2.5g
Tomatoes 2g
Turnip 0.8g
Watercress 3g
Yam 2g

The above is based on 100g servings and vary depending on how they are cooked. This puts my mind at ease a lot, also helps me decide to limit my egg intake as the cholesterol may become an issue.....

Other news, bought some Omega mix from Justin Graves which contains Linseed, Sunflower seeds, Sesame seeds, and a few others which are packed with omega 3 and 6, thus helping me cut down on fish a LOT. Also got some seaweed crackers which are delicious after the lovely Dancing brought snacking to my attention...

OH OH OH, bought Goji berries too which are utterly delicious and will be added to some yoghurt for brekkie

Kitteh · 25th July, 2008

how much protein is reccomended per day leah? just for someone stupid like me i have no clue.. lol.

good post doll.. good post..

<3 Seaweed

x x

blue_grapefruit · 25th July, 2008

Well, according to most places i've looked it's 15-20% of total intake a day...

It can also be worked out as 0.75g of protein per Kg of body weight although this is a variable figure and MOST people will go over their protein intake every single day.

This was shocking, the amount of protein in nuts per 100g:
Almond 21g
Brazils nuts 14g
Cashew nuts 20g
Chestnuts 2g
Coconut 6g
Hazelnut 14g
Peanuts 25g
Peanut Butter 22g
Pecan nuts 9g
Pine nuts 14g
Pistachio nuts 10g
Walnuts 6g

BUT the fat content in vegetables rarely goes over 1g per 100g where as in nuts all apart from chestnuts (3g of fat per 100g) are 50g of fat per 100g up to 70g fat in pecan and pine nuts!

Note to self, seriously need to watch nut intake!

jhooker · 25th July, 2008

Proud of you there Welshy!

Another thing to avoid is: Cheese!

Another thing: Fruit juice. Fruit is healthy, but bundling a week's worth of fruit into a bottle isnt.

If people give you hell and say "why why why" just say say: "animals are my friends, and I don't eat my friends"

check this out: (apart from the carbon neutral ramblings) this guy makes sense when talking about how much meat we consume Mark Bittman on what's wrong with what we eat | Video on TED.com

Welcome to the Veggie World!

24th July, 2008	#1 (permalink)
blue_grapefruit Im always here! blue_grapefruit's Profile Albums blue_grapefruit's Photo Gallery Join Date: 19th September, 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 8 Rep Power: 169 Diet: Cambridge Diet	My Vegetarian Diet Hello I've finally decided to follow the wonderful world of vegetarian dining, but throwing in some fish so really it is described as Pesco-vegetarianism (Thanks Bimjob). I hope to lose weight and cleanse my body of bad saturated fats that are found in red meats, as well as helping in the fight against animal cruelty. You don't need to share my opinions on animal welfare or even agree with any forms of vegetarianism to post here, i just want to write some meal plans, keep a relatively strict food diary, and write about my struggles with adapting to vegetarianism. I'm not a big meat eater anyway. I rarely eat meat apart from free range chicken, and if i do then it's usually at a friends house and i'm too polite to say no I still intend on eating eggs, dairy, fish gelatines (oh god, thats gunna be SUCH a struggle) and all types of fish, fruit and veg. I will exclude fish eggs as I believe it's wrong to farm fish for their eggs, and will try my best to be as creative as possible with menus. This thread will not show any pictures of animal cruelty or discuss hot animal welfare related topics, nor will I attempt to turn you lot into hippies This, I promise. There is growing evidence on the effects of red meat on the body, and this along with the food that animals are reared on alarms me greatly, so tomorrow will be my first day as a trainee veggie. I will be doing some research on the right vitamins to take until i learn where i can get my vits from natural food sources, and attempt to include them in my healthy meals. Wish me luck - this is going to be the biggest change for me ever, yet i'm so happy just to have come to this decision. ooooh, Oli is going to KILL me xxx __________________ Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life. ~Dr Phil ♥ No matter how strong I'm gonna take you down With one little stone I'm gonna break you down And see what you're worth What you're really worth to me - Rufus Wainwright Last edited by blue_grapefruit : 25th July, 2008 at 04:57 PM.

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blue_grapefruit Im always here! blue_grapefruit's Profile Albums blue_grapefruit's Photo Gallery Join Date: 19th September, 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 8 Rep Power: 169 Diet: Cambridge Diet	OH. MY. GOD. Firstly, why am I up at 4am researching vegetarianism? Secondly, Apologies in advance to any veggies out there who believe as strongly as a forum i just read that eating fish is still eating flesh. It seems that some people REALLY hate fish-eating-veggies to call themselves vegetarians so I will label myself a pescetarian. Who knows, i may cut out the fish when i can learn to cook healthy veggie meals and source my Omega 3s elsewhere..... I tell you what though, it's startling how much mercury and waste can be found in sea-caught fish I know this is a serious topic, but I've just come across this: "If it had a head, then don't eat it. In fact, forget that, some lettuces have heads as do flowers...Ok, don't eat anything that has had an anus. Oh, but some sea creatures only have one opening which serves as both.....Ok, just don't eat the obvious and don't eat seafood...I'm confusing myself....erm, don't eat anything with a central nervous system? That will do" What am i getting myself into? EDIT: http://www.fishinghurts.com/healthConcerns.asp __________________ Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life. ~Dr Phil ♥ No matter how strong I'm gonna take you down With one little stone I'm gonna break you down And see what you're worth What you're really worth to me - Rufus Wainwright Last edited by blue_grapefruit : 24th July, 2008 at 05:02 AM.

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Dancing Forum Master Dancing's Profile Albums Dancing's Photo Gallery Join Date: 11th September, 2007 Location: Surrey Posts: 4,393 Rep Power: 125	good luck.... just want to mention that i managed to put on loads of weight while being vege. So keep an eye on the portion sizes and make sure you are prepared with healthy snacks ... I kept relying on bread for a quick snack. Good luck x __________________ New ticker - 26 July 2008 wk 1: -10.5lbs wk 2: - 0lbs ... but i didn't gain. Weigh exactly the same, despite my mini break ------------------------------ What I achieved by March 2008 ..... The ticker below is not up to date as I put some weight back on while trying to lose the last 1.5stone Started vlcd Sep 2007: 20 stone 1lb Lost 91 lbs by 13/04/08 14.0 inches lost off my waist so far 8.5 inches lost off my bust/back so far 10.5 inches off my hips so far 6.0 inches (approx) off my thigh

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Shazpaz Regular Member Shazpaz's Profile Albums Shazpaz's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th September, 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,641 My Mood: Rep Power: 69 Diet: Reached Target...yipppeee.	Good luck hun. I wish I had the will power to be a veggie. I love the reasons behind it, but am not in the right place to do it yet. I'm interested to find out how you get on though. Good luck.xx __________________ LT 28lbs lost. CD 13lbs lost. Did 810 on CD so introduced food. Atkins 6lbs lost. Total loss - 47lbs UNDER WEIGHT TARGET Currently maintaining and exercising/slendertoning to get a lovely tight body!! Thats the hope anyways!!!!!!!! This is my horrific before picture plus and my after pictures....with a bit of flesh showing.

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blue_grapefruit Im always here! blue_grapefruit's Profile Albums blue_grapefruit's Photo Gallery Join Date: 19th September, 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 8 Rep Power: 169 Diet: Cambridge Diet	Kitteh just asked me why i'm eating fish... It's purely cos i need to learn to be a vegetarian the proper way. I don't want to use "pretend meats" for every meal. I want to use seeds, pulses, ryes, wheats and proper substitues for meat. I'm in no way knocking tofu and quorn as i plan to use them a lot, I just need to transition into vegetarianism with no regrets. I know I can get my omega 3 supply from other sources, I will just have to take it easy until i learn to cook properly __________________ Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life. ~Dr Phil ♥ No matter how strong I'm gonna take you down With one little stone I'm gonna break you down And see what you're worth What you're really worth to me - Rufus Wainwright

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Shazpaz Regular Member Shazpaz's Profile Albums Shazpaz's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th September, 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,641 My Mood: Rep Power: 69 Diet: Reached Target...yipppeee.	owwwwww I'm loving the sound of frozen fruits. I'll buy some grapes today. __________________ LT 28lbs lost. CD 13lbs lost. Did 810 on CD so introduced food. Atkins 6lbs lost. Total loss - 47lbs UNDER WEIGHT TARGET Currently maintaining and exercising/slendertoning to get a lovely tight body!! Thats the hope anyways!!!!!!!! This is my horrific before picture plus and my after pictures....with a bit of flesh showing.

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blue_grapefruit Im always here! blue_grapefruit's Profile Albums blue_grapefruit's Photo Gallery Join Date: 19th September, 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 8 Rep Power: 169 Diet: Cambridge Diet	So far today I've eaten: Warm shreddies with skimmed milk (YUM!) Lunch was homemade tomato and herb sauce with a lil bit of pasta and some fresh spinach leaves Dinner was homemade sweet and sour sauce, with stir fryed red & yellow peppers, onions, mushrooms, and half a cup full of brown rice. Oli added chicken to his, and loved the sauce so all good Snacks: Had a plum, nectarine, some natural yoghurt with blackberries and a handful of nuts. I would work out the calories but i can't be bothered xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx __________________ Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life. ~Dr Phil ♥ No matter how strong I'm gonna take you down With one little stone I'm gonna break you down And see what you're worth What you're really worth to me - Rufus Wainwright

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blue_grapefruit Im always here! blue_grapefruit's Profile Albums blue_grapefruit's Photo Gallery Join Date: 19th September, 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 8 Rep Power: 169 Diet: Cambridge Diet	As a new veggie I was worried about protein intake, however I've found FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and filled a few days in with some obvious meal choices and found that i'm over the recommended protein intake every day, even double some days. It's startling how much protein is in vegetables. Asparagus 3g Aubergine 1g Beans 9g Beetroot 2g Broccoli 3g Brussels Sprouts 3g Cabbage average 1g Carrot 0.5g Cauliflower 3g Celery 0.5g Chicory 0.6g Courgette 2g Cucumber 0.5g Fennel 1g Gherkins 1g Leek 1.6g Lettuce 0.7g Marrow 0.5g Mushroom 2g Okra 2.4g Onion 0.7g Onion (Spring) 2g Parsnip 1.5g Peas 7g Peppers 1g Potato 1.6g Pumpkin 0.5g Radish 0.7g Spinach 2g Swede 0.5g Sweetcorn 2.5g Tomatoes 2g Turnip 0.8g Watercress 3g Yam 2g The above is based on 100g servings and vary depending on how they are cooked. This puts my mind at ease a lot, also helps me decide to limit my egg intake as the cholesterol may become an issue..... Other news, bought some Omega mix from Justin Graves which contains Linseed, Sunflower seeds, Sesame seeds, and a few others which are packed with omega 3 and 6, thus helping me cut down on fish a LOT. Also got some seaweed crackers which are delicious after the lovely Dancing brought snacking to my attention... OH OH OH, bought Goji berries too which are utterly delicious and will be added to some yoghurt for brekkie __________________ Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life. ~Dr Phil ♥ No matter how strong I'm gonna take you down With one little stone I'm gonna break you down And see what you're worth What you're really worth to me - Rufus Wainwright

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Kitteh Late night spammer Kitteh's Profile Albums Kitteh's Photo Gallery Tetrix 2 Champion!Tournaments Won: 2 Join Date: 2nd August, 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 4,524 My Mood: Rep Power: 197 Diet: SW	how much protein is reccomended per day leah? just for someone stupid like me i have no clue.. lol. good post doll.. good post.. <3 Seaweed x x __________________ Week 1 and 2 = -5lbs..

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blue_grapefruit Im always here! blue_grapefruit's Profile Albums blue_grapefruit's Photo Gallery Join Date: 19th September, 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 8 Rep Power: 169 Diet: Cambridge Diet	Well, according to most places i've looked it's 15-20% of total intake a day... It can also be worked out as 0.75g of protein per Kg of body weight although this is a variable figure and MOST people will go over their protein intake every single day. This was shocking, the amount of protein in nuts per 100g: Almond 21g Brazils nuts 14g Cashew nuts 20g Chestnuts 2g Coconut 6g Hazelnut 14g Peanuts 25g Peanut Butter 22g Pecan nuts 9g Pine nuts 14g Pistachio nuts 10g Walnuts 6g BUT the fat content in vegetables rarely goes over 1g per 100g where as in nuts all apart from chestnuts (3g of fat per 100g) are 50g of fat per 100g up to 70g fat in pecan and pine nuts! Note to self, seriously need to watch nut intake! __________________ Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, and the same life. Losing weight is not a cure for life. ~Dr Phil ♥ No matter how strong I'm gonna take you down With one little stone I'm gonna break you down And see what you're worth What you're really worth to me - Rufus Wainwright