Thread: Spoke too soon - got 2nd Dress!

Bad News...out of interest I weighed myself today and I have gained 2 pounds - eek. I am hoping this is due to the ridiculously huge lunch I had yesterday. My weigh day isn't actually until tomorrow so I'll weigh again then and see what's happening.

I'll wait until I speak to the hypno guy on Wednesday before figuring out what to do as I'm enjoying the feeling of being 'blaze' about my food and it not being a huge part of my everyday life...but obviously if the one huge meal a day doesn't stop then this isn't going to work for me! I've had a reasonable breakfast so am hoping for a very simple lunch and dinner. Fingers crossed it sorts itself out as I'm enjoying eating all the fresh foods and fruit...as is my body, just not the scales.

Umm. That's a bit of a blow isn't it. Bother for you.

Of course, it could just be normal body fluctuations.

I reckon if you are going to give this hypno thing a good whirl, it would be a good idea to incorporate some of the P McKenna extras.

I remember talking to a hypno once about using it for weightloss and he said that it wasn't as successful as hypno for a smoking quit. Of course, that doesn't mean it doesn't work, just often needs something more than that to back it up.

Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Artyjoe

Hi Karion, you didn't frighten me away at all! I actually haven't posted as I haven't had the time to do a full post which I felt it warranted as you gave such a lot of time and fab advice on your message that I didn't feel 'thanks for that' was enough! You really have given me lots to think about and I went out looking for something similar to the bar you have from Asda as we don't have an Asda here...settled on a Nutrigrain bar, I know it has more calories but it seems nutritious and quite dense so should at least acknowledge that I've eaten it. I'm not doing well on the 1100 calories at all, but then i think that's down to the hypno...

I went on Wednesday and spent 1 and a half hours talking about exactly what I want to achieve through hypno, doing visualisation exercises to see how I could go into trance, setting goals for what I want to achieve. We only had time for a 10 minute hypno just to see if I could get into trance, with the focus being on next weeks (this wednesdays) session. It was very odd and extremely interesting to see how my behaviour has changed already. When I got to Waterloo for the journey home I decided I'd get something to eat for on the train as I'd missed lunch and dinner due to the hypno time...I was bemused to notice when I'd settled down on the train that I'd bought water and a banana My normal would have been a panini thing with a muffin and a cappuccino or hot chocolate, with a bar of choccie as well. What was interesting was the fact that I didn't even toy with the idea of anything other than the banana and water...very strange.

I have missed a few meals this week, not on purpose but because i didn't notice I hadn't eaten...this I can tell you is a first in my life! I have found though that on these days, although i have no appetite in advance, when I eat my 'main' meal it is huge and I scoff it down as if I'm never going to eat again...this is also new, so I'm hoping this will be balanced out more on Wednesday. I haven't weighed myself once since Wednesday, which again, is nothing short of a miracle.

One of the things I said I wanted to achieve (apart from being a size 12) is not having my weight as part of 'my drama'...let my drama be that I've spent too much money on designer jeans or something, not that I've gained/lost a pound. i specifically asked that I don't bother about food and eat like a 'normal' human being, including chocies and cakes, but not needing to eat 6 in a row, maybe just one small pack of Minstrels with no need to demolish three big bags in a row. I did today have a small bag of minstrels, just fancied them so got a pack, took about 30 minutes to eat the pack, savoured each and every one and was quite happy when the pack was finished...and no guilt.mmmm.

I know it is early days and I'm actually a little concerned that I can't seem to follow a diet at the moment, I just don't seem that bothered and I can't visualise food so can't really plan what I'm going to eat, which is also odd...but this is an improvement as normally as I'm eating my breakfast I'm visualising my lunch, and lunch dinner etc. Maybe I'm becoming a normal human being before I actually get to a size 12...but so long as I get there, I don't mind.

I have no idea if I'm going to lose the weight now within 5 weeks, I am just going to have faith in this guy and hope he knows what he's doing and all the little tweaks will be sorted soon so that I can make good decisions about what food i eat. On a calorie controlled diet I know I can lose the weight within 5 weeks, but with the new relationship I'm developing with food it seems the idea of a diet is going out of the window.

i have eaten a banana and nectarine every day though since Wednesday, which is also a complete change around for me...and it's not because i feel I 'should' eat them, it's because I fancy them. It was also interesting that I didn't notice I'd gone down the chocolate aisle in the supermarket until I'd actually left the supermarket, it just genuinely didn't bother me in the least, never thought to stop and check out what I could have.

I am hoping that Wednesdays appointment will really be a positive experience and I'll come out practically sorted, he said he didn't think I'd need more than 3 sessions, which is great news as trogging into London once a week doesn't suit me at all...but it's that or gastric band so not so bad in the grand scheme of things.

Next week he's also going to build in the idea of exercise being a good thing...when i was training to be a fitness instructor I loved exercise, but then I damaged my knee and the very thought of huffing my body anywhere at speed now is not pleasing! Lets see if the cross trainer I bought last month actually gets turned on before the wedding!

Thanks Mandy, Zareena, Mini, DQ, Isabel & Karion for all the support here, I hope my post on Thursday will be a positive one...I have a feeling it will be

Good luck on your journeys and thanks so much for helping me with mine x

I have just tried the Nutrigrain bar and definitely do not like them one little bit! Any ideas for anything that I can get in Sainsbury's or Tesco that might work the same as your Asda bar?

I received the Paul McKenna book and CD two days ago but haven't read them yet...what do you mean by 'get the extras'...will i find these in the book or are there other supports out there?

Am off to hypno guy, am a bit depressed as it woudl seem I've gained another 2 pounds...really hope he sorts me out.

I don't like the nutrigrain bars either and it's not really a meal replacement bar, unless you swap it for breakfast.

So you are looking for a meal bar? Of course, there's slimfast, but they don't fill me up. Can't find anything as good and as cheap as the Sero bars.

There is another called GoLower. It's 99p though, so more expensive. Not so big to look at, but takes ages to eat because it's so nutty.

To be honest, I tend to make my own lunches but the bars are useful in emergencies.

Good luck with the hypno today though.

Thanks Karion. I have had the hypno and I'm feeling positive. Thanks also for the advice on upping the calories and slowing down the weight loss, today for the first time I have got to 'dinner time' and have calories left to eat!

I think I'm going to try fruit and yoghurts or crispbreads for lunch, keep it simple and boring and hopefully i won't get too much of an appetite for it. I think CD has gotten me so used to bars that I'm devoid of thoughts as to normal food...but intend to start as of tomorrow. I dug out a copy of Rosemary Conleys 'be slim be fit' book tonight so I'll look at a few of her lunches as well...although my hypno guys suggested the bare foot doctor diet book so maybe I'll take a look at that as well.

Am feeling positive but don't think i'll be able to lose the 12 pounds in time for the dress fitting, I can only pray that whatever I lose will be enough to get into the dress nad hope that a few pounds won't make that much difference...where's the living in denial symbol then?

Try exercise and toning you might get a few inches without the weight loss.

Originally Posted by Artyjoe

although my hypno guys suggested the bare foot doctor diet book so maybe I'll take a look at that as well.

The barefoot doctor? or the food doctor?

The barefoot doctor is quite spiritual sort of stuff. The food doctor does the A list diet book which is quite good. Low Gi stuff. A bit fiddly though, but worth a try if you like to cook

Hope things are going well for you. We're with ya honey, and one way or another we'll get there

Hi Jo, glad your second hypno session went well and you're feeling positive Keep going honey.. you will get there

love xx

Thanks for your support Mandy, DQ, Karion and Dawn. Am feeling good today, in control at the moment and happy as it was TOTM without my realising, (broke through a pill packet) which may explain why I've gained a few pounds...I'll be waiting until next Wednesday now to see if there is a difference. Upping the calorie allowance has made a psychological difference, normally after lunch I have no calories left for dinner whereas today i still have plenty...mind you, that also has a lot to do with the fact I've made better choices today, Ryveta Breaks have helped today.

Next week the hypno is going to concentrate on my three, yes three, personalities/sides to me and try to get them all on the same journey with the same goal in mind...he thinks there is one part that has a different agenda to the others which is why some strange things are happening in reaction to changing some of my habits. It's all very interesting to watch and see how my habits are changing...especially my enjoyment of chocolate. Twice I have had a small bag of minstrels and enjoyed and savoured every single one, rather than throwing five or six in my mouth in one hit and then continuing onto the third 'big' bag...yesterday I left a half pack with 5 left in my office...last week I'd never have done that! My intake of fruit is staggering and I'm sure my body will thank me for it eventually.

It is nearly 5 weeks until I go into London to buy the lingerie for the wedding day, someone will have to help with that as well so I'm hoping I'll be feeling better about myself if I'm going to have a shop assistant with her hands all over me - eek!

Hope you are all having a good day - Joe

Have been starving today, had lunch before 12 so am not expecting much from myself today already. Was disappointed yesterday as had a take away Indian which wasn't part of the plan...got stuck in bad traffic with an 18 month old who needed feeding so diverted to a friends house who made her fish fingers but we ended up getting the take out with our friends. It was all very nice but has weighed heavy today, knew it would so don't know why I insisted on weighing myself. My weigh day isn't until Wednesday, but am not feeling too hopeful.

The hypno is also bringing up some issues which I really would prefer not to dwell on...I forgot there are two words hypno-therapy...therapy is a big part it would seem :-( I'm hoping Wednesdays session will produce some results...actually that is really unfair as there are results, my consumption of healthy food is three fold and fruit is going in at the rate chocolate used to...but as I'm not seeing a difference on the scales yet I'm disappointed. If it wasn't for the wedding dress scenario I probably wouldn't be too bothered as it's a nice way to live not dieting too much, but I'm not in the position where I can do that at the moment.

I think I'm generally having a low day; had such a wonderful time yesterday with my partner and daughter at Whipsnade zoo, it was really wonderful quality time which I don't get as I work full time (albeit in the home). I think maybe going back to a crappy days work is affecting me slightly. May be in for an early night if my calories are gone by 7pm!

I haven't even had one glass of water yet today, which I know is a big part of the problem, but I just can't bear the thought of it for some reason...strange.

Today I got rid of the scales...and for someone who weighs herself twice a day, this is nothing short of a miracle!

I did 10 minutes of exercise today, doesn't sound much but I'm planning on doing that 7 days a week, so 70 minutes a week, that's not bad :-)

Had a very very low week last week, dregged up a lot of stuff about my childhood which I didn't really want to go into but realised if I'm to beat the food addiction then I can't pretend it didn't exist...so that's been done and now back onto the positive stuff. Am choosing much better, had a water and banana for lunch today...out of choice...and I was in waitrose cafe where I'd usually have a cumberland sausage on a roll followed by a sticky bun and hot chocolate.

I feel the rest of my journey is going to be a long but steady one, I am imagining 1 pound a week and the wedding dress will just have to fit. I am finally making the right choices with regards to food, I probably have a way to go yet but my choices are certainly already 30 times better than previously. I would recommend my hypno guy to anyone, he's really understanding, kind, and gives damn good advice whilst making you feel great about yourself.

I am going to weigh myself in two weeks time in Boots or somewhere, just to ensure I am actually going in the right direction, very hard to tell when you are eating again after CD.

All I can do now is pray that the dress fits, whatever I manage to lose in time for its fitting.

Joe x

Yesterday I went to a new hypno, a hypnotist rather than a hypnotherapist...I didn't realise there was a difference!

Anyway, to cut a long story short I am now doing CD again, milkshakes only, no bars, so I don't get the awful side effects (specific to me) and am hoping this will get rid of enough weight to have the dress fit. I know it is 2 inches too small on the waist at the moment, so I now have 6 weeks in total (to the week before the wedding) to get rid of that.

I'm not going to panic as the dressmaker said we'd do all the alterations at the end of September, except for the bodice, and one week before the wedding will be plenty to fix any problems, so that's a big relief.

The hypno was great as I didn't have to psych myself up to starting CD, I just came away yesterday knowing I was already on it!

One thing he did say was to not tell yourself you are 'losing weight'...if you lose a purse it feels good to find it again, you don't want to 'find' the weight again. He said you should train your mind to think about 'getting rid' of the weight, it's never coming back...just thought I'd share :-)

He was absolutely fantastic...proof is in the pudding of course but this is the first time in my life (I've been to three different hypnos) where I was definitely actually hypnotised.

Fingers crossed I'll be posting a loss from now on...since last week i managed to gain another 4 pounds on top of the 12 pounds I'd already gained...now need to get rid of at least a stone...phah, no probs x

I just read the entry before last, what a difference a week can make to your attitude!

Originally Posted by Artyjoe

One thing he did say was to not tell yourself you are 'losing weight'...if you lose a purse it feels good to find it again, you don't want to 'find' the weight again. He said you should train your mind to think about 'getting rid' of the weight, it's never coming back...just thought I'd share :-)

I like that - I like that a lot!! Thanks Artyjoe, and wishing you luck