Has anyone SS'd with a BMI over 40?
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emmapetty
Going for Goal!
Oh yes.
Cambridge have only recently changed the rules. I daresay they have their reasons, but I and 1000s of others seemed to manage just fine before.
I think my BMI was close to 43 when I started the first time...
True! Mine was 44 I think
Didn't realise rules had changed though?? I knew Dr had to sign form if BMI over 40 - can you not do ss now if it's over 40? Seems silly, I did fine with it! Went on to loose 8 stone!
lshafik
Full Member
Well I think i will chop and change...I will SS till tuesday night as I have a works do and they have kindly asked the chef at the hotel to do a SS+ meal for me! WHICH HE IS! (How nice is that?!?)
Then on holiday I am going to SS + the whole time I am there...plus I will be swimming most of the time too...if I don't lose 3lbs while i am away I will be shocked!
Then on holiday I am going to SS + the whole time I am there...plus I will be swimming most of the time too...if I don't lose 3lbs while i am away I will be shocked!
Lily
Gold Member
I'm trying to check this one out but not getting very far.
But I keep reading that Cambridge Head Office have recently changed the rules so that SS is no fewer than 4 packs a day.
I had a look on the official Cambridge forum and as recently as yesterday, one of the moderators there who's also a CWPC declared this to be rubbish and that you can still SS on 3 packs.
Anyone here a CWPC who might happen to know the definitive answer?
But I keep reading that Cambridge Head Office have recently changed the rules so that SS is no fewer than 4 packs a day.
I had a look on the official Cambridge forum and as recently as yesterday, one of the moderators there who's also a CWPC declared this to be rubbish and that you can still SS on 3 packs.
Anyone here a CWPC who might happen to know the definitive answer?
cherylxx
Silver Member
my cdc said to me that she had a memo about a month ago saying that all NEW clients with BMI over 40 must go on higher plan than ss.
however, she wasnt given an actual reason for this and it also said that existing clients with BMI over 40 were safe to continue with their current plan, including SS.
its all very confusing. surely if there was a real risk they would be demanding all existing clients with 40+ BMI convert to a higher plan.
however, she wasnt given an actual reason for this and it also said that existing clients with BMI over 40 were safe to continue with their current plan, including SS.
its all very confusing. surely if there was a real risk they would be demanding all existing clients with 40+ BMI convert to a higher plan.
cherylxx
Silver Member
i am inclined to agree with u lily.
im pretty sure if there were any medical reason they wouldnt be taking any medical risks with their ongoing above BMI 40 clients. therefore money is the only other thing that makes sense.
Summerskye
Gold Member
Hi girls
The current rules set by CWP head office stipulate that anyone with a BMI of 40 or over has to get their GPs approval before commencing on a SS program.
Once approved, it would still be OK to SS on 3 packs per day (provided you are under 5'8") as long as the GP is able to confirm there aren't any underlying medical conditions or contra-indications (your consultant will be able to advise you on what these are).
If you decide to opt for the SS+program, which most of my clients do by the way, you could do either Option A (4 packs per day plus 200 mls of skimmed milk) OR Option B (3 packs per day plus a 200 calorie meal but no milk allowance).
I'm sorry that it's not the news you particularly want to hear, but it really is better to be safe than sorry .... and you can still do SS on 3 packs per day if you want once your GP signs your medical record form.
Hope this helps
The current rules set by CWP head office stipulate that anyone with a BMI of 40 or over has to get their GPs approval before commencing on a SS program.
Once approved, it would still be OK to SS on 3 packs per day (provided you are under 5'8") as long as the GP is able to confirm there aren't any underlying medical conditions or contra-indications (your consultant will be able to advise you on what these are).
If you decide to opt for the SS+program, which most of my clients do by the way, you could do either Option A (4 packs per day plus 200 mls of skimmed milk) OR Option B (3 packs per day plus a 200 calorie meal but no milk allowance).
I'm sorry that it's not the news you particularly want to hear, but it really is better to be safe than sorry .... and you can still do SS on 3 packs per day if you want once your GP signs your medical record form.
Hope this helps
flab fighter
The fat is melting away!
I have ss since the start BMI over 50 had no problems. Did get medical form signed. I wanted food out of the equation for a while so I could try and overcome my cravings.
Lily
Gold Member
Hi girls
The current rules set by CWP head office stipulate that anyone with a BMI of 40 or over has to get their GPs approval before commencing on a SS program.
Once approved, it would still be OK to SS on 3 packs per day (provided you are under 5'8") as long as the GP is able to confirm there aren't any underlying medical conditions or contra-indications (your consultant will be able to advise you on what these are).
If you decide to opt for the SS+program, which most of my clients do by the way, you could do either Option A (4 packs per day plus 200 mls of skimmed milk) OR Option B (3 packs per day plus a 200 calorie meal but no milk allowance).
I'm sorry that it's not the news you particularly want to hear, but it really is better to be safe than sorry .... and you can still do SS on 3 packs per day if you want once your GP signs your medical record form.
Hope this helps
Yes - but that's what I don't understand - cos those are the rules as I know them to be. I get those!
But I keep reading posts that suggest otherwise, like the ones actually in this thread:
my cdc said to me that she had a memo about a month ago saying that all NEW clients with BMI over 40 must go on higher plan than ss.
however, she wasnt given an actual reason for this and it also said that existing clients with BMI over 40 were safe to continue with their current plan, including SS.
its all very confusing. surely if there was a real risk they would be demanding all existing clients with 40+ BMI convert to a higher plan.
It would appear that CWPCs appear to be telling their new clients that they can't SS if they have a BMI of 40+ even with a signed form from the doctor.
Is there new guidance from Head Office?
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lshafik
Full Member
Well I think should be my choice - I buy the packs and I suppose who is going to know! My CDC has advised me to do SS+ so it is my choice what I do on a daily basis.
I think if I make sure I have 3 a day but the 4th one if I need it (or remember)
I will be doing 4 on Saturday and Sunday as I need the energy for Sunday (and the willpower to get me through the day as I will be surrounded by free Nando's food!)
x
I think if I make sure I have 3 a day but the 4th one if I need it (or remember)
I will be doing 4 on Saturday and Sunday as I need the energy for Sunday (and the willpower to get me through the day as I will be surrounded by free Nando's food!)
x
mrs c
Cambridge Consultant
I have posted this on the other thread as well but just to clarify ref starting Cambridge with a BMI of over 40.
Right the official guidelines from Cambridge Medical Team have changed recently, anyone with a BMI over 40 is not allowed to SS or SS+.
Attached is a chart to which we have to follow, giving guideline of the different BMI over 40 dependant on if you are male or female. There are reasons for this change to the protocol and if in doubt please discuss it with you Cambridge Weight Plan Consultant who can always if need be put in a medical request to our HO about particular circumstances.
I hope that this answers your queries.
he guideline is there for clients starting the plan with a higher BMI, there is always circumstances where you could be on a lower plan, these need to be discussed with you CWPC. So in some instances yes you could possibly be on SS/SS+ when above BMI 40.
Right the official guidelines from Cambridge Medical Team have changed recently, anyone with a BMI over 40 is not allowed to SS or SS+.
Attached is a chart to which we have to follow, giving guideline of the different BMI over 40 dependant on if you are male or female. There are reasons for this change to the protocol and if in doubt please discuss it with you Cambridge Weight Plan Consultant who can always if need be put in a medical request to our HO about particular circumstances.
I hope that this answers your queries.
he guideline is there for clients starting the plan with a higher BMI, there is always circumstances where you could be on a lower plan, these need to be discussed with you CWPC. So in some instances yes you could possibly be on SS/SS+ when above BMI 40.
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Cerulean
Silver Member
Just to quash the 'making more money' idea. Charging clients an extra 25% in this economic climate is not a sensible business model so the 4 packs has more to do with taking calories over the magic 600 number than trying to be like Lighter Life (also, I dunno about now, but 5 years ago, LL foodpacks were made by Roche, just like CD's - they're just measured into different quanities and packaged differently)
