What you can expect from a CDC

[jane]

Originally Posted by JustJo

Although people knew I was dieting, I never told anyone I was doing cd. It was much easier to just eat salads on the weekends that we were up in Wigan, as I didn't have to cope with the disaproval!

I'll look forward to hearing the official response... although I don't hold out too much hope for it being what we'd like it to be!


Jo x

I'm a great advocate of 'not coming out of the closet til you're ready'
as I see it, when you've lost 3 stone with glowing skin & loads of energy it's so much easier to deal with those sorts of comments.

I seem to remember not even bothering to answer in words, just put on a sort of 'come off it I've not felt better in years expression' topped with an '& I know more biochemistry than you do' eyebrow flicker.

Ah..just re-read that. God I must have been smug when I was S/Sing!

hmm so no change there eh?
right off to make a phone call. My luck would have them all out on a training day.

[jane]

The word from head Office

Or the Man from Del Monte say YES.

summary of HO opinion
1. The AAMW is set up for good reasons & we know it works etc,& is their preferred course for CDC's to encourage & clients to use.

but

2. Pragmatically they know that CDC's help S/Sing clients find sensible solutions to life within the broader framework eg social events.

SO

3. If a client wishes to spread their AAM into individual days that is fine, though they should aim to keep roughly to the 1:4 ratio.

So that's good news! as, I've already found clients who, having done really well for a few weeks, blanch at the thought of 7 days of meals ahead. Then, finding myself suggesting compromises that are less scary has made me wonder if I was beginning to drive up the kerb of frowned upon practices & me still a novice CDC.

( I myself took a unilateral decision last winter to avoid AAM altogether for a few months due to lack of self belief. Then, I did AAM night, then AAM week-end & built it up so that I was able then to merge seamlessly with becoming 790. In the mean time I'd sort of complied with the regs of getting GP's approval by muttering 'oh & I'm doing Cambridge, is it all right if I skip the AAMW til I've lost a bit more' to one of the partners over the counter when I was up there on an errand. (You can still do things like that in tiny rural practices )

The response was 'What ever you're doing don't stop-you're looking great. Then v sweetly added 'You're sensible, you can judge what's right for you'

Well I've 2 things to add to this.

1) (the grown up comment,) which is YES we are all grown up & I wish that all Health Professionals could recognise this.

(For nonCDC's I'll explain. NICE have recognised this & have changed the emphasis on the Medical Form. There are medical conditions & prescriptions that require the GP to sign the form to CONFIRM that the information provided by the patient is correct & NOT asking the GP for PERMISSION/APPROVAL to consume Cambridge products.


2) I wish my H & children could have heard this. I've been telling them for years that I'm a mature & sensible woman, but they continue to treat me like I'm an idiot.



PS Does anyone know what the opposite of Misogyny is? Is it Misandry? Either way there seemed to be more than a hint of this in the Man-homework food - essay I set. So I spose I should say sorry. Still, shame Mike hasn't taken the bait

[JustJo]

Wow! Thanks for that, Jane! I'm rather impressed that cd HQ are living in 'the real world' with regards to the diet.

I'm quite surprised, but pleased - it's good to know what we can 'officially' tell clients.

Yes, misandry is the opposite of misogyny. Trust me, i'm an English teacher. However, if your hubby treats you like an idiot (and your kids - they're not boys, are they? :P), then it would seem you're quite entitled to your misandrist tendencies. :P


Jo x

[jane]

Hey, I'm surmised a word & it existed. Reet chuffed about that. thanks Jo.
Nope the worst offenders are the 2 girls. The little lad still thinks his mummy knows everything!

I blame the education system for my childrens attitude.

Their views are heeded so they think they have something worth saying.
They no longer fear public humiliation so dogged determinatuion & initiative are undiscovered.

children have always thiught their parents to be idiots ...so no change there .

actually the one about fear of punishment & mockery begetting resourcefulness & initiative wasn't mine. It was told me by a charismatic teacher. Having spent 5 yrs at university sufering education by humiliation I tried to argue against him, but sadly I suspect the old cynic had a point.

[JustJo]

Originally Posted by jane

Hey, I'm surmised a word & it existed. Reet chuffed about that. thanks Jo.
Nope the worst offenders are the 2 girls. The little lad still thinks his mummy knows everything!

I blame the education system for my childrens attitude.

Their views are heeded so they think they have something worth saying.
They no longer fear public humiliation so dogged determinatuion & initiative are undiscovered.

children have always thiught their parents to be idiots ...so no change there .

actually the one about fear of punishment & mockery begetting resourcefulness & initiative wasn't mine. It was told me by a charismatic teacher. Having spent 5 yrs at university sufering education by humiliation I tried to argue against him, but sadly I suspect the old cynic had a point.

I love figuring out/learning new words, but then i'm sad like that.

Ohh, i'm surprised at your girls (and your hubby!), as you seem like a vey intelligent woman to me! My daughter's 11, and my son's 8, and they still think I know everything they have this idea that i'm the cleverest person in the world, which suits me just fine.

I'd agree with the charismatic, yet cynical teacher, too. It's of course a great thing for children to have confidence in themselves, but the new trend of letting kids have too much say, and allowing them to believe they can always express themselves without retribution is also quite damaging. As a teacher, i'm not 'allowed' to tell children they're wrong - i'm supposed to always go along the lines of, "Well done, you have a good point. Do you think this [insert correct answer here] is also a good point, though?" Of course, this is great for children with a low self-esteem, as it encourages them to try and answer without fearing mockery, but some kids would probably be better served bringing down a peg or two at times.


Jo x

[jane]

Originally Posted by JustJo

I love figuring out/learning new words, but then i'm sad like that.
?sad Articulate is the word that came to my mind.

Ohh, i'm surprised at your girls (and your hubby!), as you seem like a vey intelligent woman to me!
Thankyou jo. can I tell them this?
My daughter's 11, and my son's 8, and they still think I know everything they have this idea that i'm the cleverest person in the world, which suits me just fine.

long may it continue! you must have done something right in th parenting dept too.
I'd agree with the charismatic, yet cynical teacher, too.

You'd have loved him (not dead but sadly poached by another school)
as well as 'Whitmore-isms' he never got sucked into 'pandering to parents' our school has a pretty informal access all hours policy but if he thought he was being sought by a parent he didn't want to se he'd pretend to be 'not in the staff room' or even been known to hide. As a representative of the demanding-clases AKA 'middle class parents' I surprised myself by supporting his actions thoroughly.

Having never mastered the art of saying 'NO' to I've found myself spending much of my time 'helping out' at school. The nerve of some parents! unrealistic doesn't scratch the surface. I just feel sorry for their kids. Of course, this is great for children with a low self-esteem, as it encourages them to try and answer without fearing mockery, but some kids would probably be better served bringing down a peg or two at times.

Jo x

Absolutley !

I really didn't enjoy my spell of learning in the context of ritually having your nose rubbed in the poo (I'm old Jo,this was in the 70's & 80's) but at least life didn't come as a nasty shock afterwards.
Agree that arrogant snotty children are not being well served by being allowed to think they always have a valid/ pertinent/worthwhile/correct opinion.
Children have poor insight.It's a defining part of childhood. It's the maturation process that helps us develop it. How are they going to aquire this skill & self knowledge if they are only given one side of the learning-currency?

golly I'm getting worse. motor mouth by name etc., Shut up Jane

still doesn't help me convince my lot that I'm not a wrinkly-thicko-saddie who knows nothing.these 3 words are banned in our house by the way).
as is calling the little lad 'Phlomian Tree'

now where did I put those thumb screws?

[Diet4-40]

Hi Folks,

Have to say my CDC doesn't weigh or measure me, I have done it all myself, but... I have really preferred it

I have followed diets for years and have gone to so many WW and SW classes it is unreal and the thought of someone else weighing me is very off putting, so I was very pleased when my CDC said she didn't weigh because she goes to clients homes and finds the scales irregular if they are picked up and put down all the time..

She is incredibly supportive though and has even come to my house mid week to change flavours I haven't liked

Really interesting reading about the AAM information, Jane and Justjo.

Sarah x

[KD]

Well...funny you should say that Sarah, but my CDC didn't either. She didn't weigh or measure me once (at my request)

She should have done though to make sure I was on the right plan, but apart from that, she was a fab CDC for me.