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slimslow71 · 3rd September, 2008

im on a low cal diet and work out on my cross trainer everday for 30 mins i burn over 200 kcals and i eat sensable no fatty stuff just fruit and veg and grill the everything just that i got on the scales today and i put on weight im starting the gym soon well next tuesday on fit 4 life and taking xenical but im putting on weigh and not taking it off anyone know where im going wrong??

Big Bird · 3rd September, 2008

Hi - that seems really strange !! Do you think you may not be eating enough.I know that when i have done WW that if you dont eat enough your body stores food rather than burning it.

MzMonday · 3rd September, 2008

You could be losing inches rather than weight on the scale (are you measuring?)

You could be putting on muscle due to working out, so in place of fat, muscle is growing (and I think per the amount of space the muscle takes up versus the fat, the muscle weighs more)

You could be retaining fluid (do you eat a lot of salt? I ask because salt can keep water on you and also when you sweat the salt in your body depletes and this can also make you retain fluid)

Your body could be thinking you are starving to death due to the low calories and thus it hangs on to and stores everything it can

There are a lot of reasons you could be gaining. Have you dieted long? Sometimes this can mess with your metabolism.

Hopefully you can figure it out. Good luck!

slimslow71 · 3rd September, 2008

somehow i think your right i get side tracked as with house work and looking after kids as well as shopping i dont stop to eat like i should
i tend to just eat one meal a day and thats just low cal around 270+ and taking xenical as well i know i dont drink enough water
but i havent ever been a big eater i never have breakfast normally one meal aday im not really sure how i got this big as i never snack but i used to lounge around before this diet too as i have degerative disk diease which is painful most days now ive gone on this diet its hard adjusting my life style i always seem to busy and just skip meals thanks for the advice maybe i will try start eating more but its eating that scares me too

MzMonday · 3rd September, 2008

From what I have read a woman's body needs about 1200 calories to sustain itself when it's sedentary (heart beating, blood to the brain/lungs, etc). If you have eaten real low calorie for a long time, your metabolism dropped because your body was convinced you were starving to death. When you go into this starvation mode your body will start eating itself, including your fat and muscles (e.g. your heart). Not only that, but your body says "oh my god, we are starving" and then it hangs onto every single little piece of energy it can and stores it as fat because it's terrified that if it doesn't, it will die.

There are people who go on VLCD (very low calorie diets), but those are more in the range of 600 calories per day and they are specific diets with specific food requirements to make sure you are getting what you need. As far as I know most people don't stay on them for more than a month, then they switch out for a higher calorie diet for a month, and then switch back. At least, that's how I think it works, I haven't tried it and I am not interested - I am having a tough enough time keeping my calories between 1500-1650

Your metabolism is hurting if you have eaten this low calorie for a long time. You are just going to have to increase your calories over time and accept the initial gain. Long term, if you get your metabolism back where it should be, you will have an easier time losing. I know the initial gain sucks but not much to be done about it. And measure, odds are you are losing inches if you are working out that hard

slimslow71 · 3rd September, 2008

thanks for the advice i will go out and get a tape measure today ive been on this diet for 6 weeks now with exercise and like i say all ive done is gained (due to not eating enough i think) but i have it in my mind if i eat im going to get fat but i guess im wrong just hope i can kick myself into eating small meals aday instead of one small meal

MzMonday · 3rd September, 2008

Just be sure to get your calories from healthy sources and spread them out over your day. When you increase your calories initially you may gain weight, but over time your metabolism will speed back up and you'll be back on track. Sorry you are having such a tough time

stacey · 3rd September, 2008

hey

welcome to minimins, i dont have anything else to add from what others have said but jus wanted to wish u luck on ur journey

xxx

slimslow71 · 3rd September, 2008

ty hun for the welcome

nevarine · 3rd September, 2008

Hey Slimslow! You seem to be doing everything right. Thing is, weight isn't the only measure for getting fit. For example, if you haven't exercised before, you might be gaining muscle mass which weighs more than the fat you are losing, so overall you're not losing weight but you're getting slimmer. Or, if you started your routine in less than two weeks or so, you'll need to keep at it before you see results. But in the end, no matter what your genetics, if you do things right and keep at it, you will lose weight. Hope this helps!

Sabina · 3rd September, 2008

dont lose hope, you will start to see the changes. You do need to eat more but spread the small portions throughout the day and you definitely need water as i am learning now.
a few of us are doing the sensible eating and exercise and aiming for around 1lb a week loss so im sure you'll find the support you need in some of the discussion forums.
good luck
x

alibalibee · 3rd September, 2008

Sorry did I read this right? You eat 270 cals a day and you're taking Xenical? No way is that enough and your body will go into starvation mode and hang onto every last ounce of fat it can.
I'm on Xencial and I consume roughly 1800 calories a day, and use up about 300-400 through exercise. I'm losing about 1½ - 2lbs a week. If you're consuming so little calories, then Xenical wont work. Each meal should be between 12-15g of fat, and you should be having about 50g of fat per day ( this is info from my Xenical nurse).
If I've miss read your post then just ignore me hun

But please if you really are eating so very little, you're going to make yourself ill hun
xxx

**Starlight** · 4th September, 2008

Welcome to Minimins

Sounds like youre definitely not eating enough, why not start a diary and you can post your meals etc and get some help.

Or you may benefit from a more structured diet like WW or SW. If youre eating so little then Xenical probably wont work for you

flumpster67 · 4th September, 2008

Hi Slimslow,
As everyone else says, you DEFINATELY need to eat more - not only to give your metabolism a good kick into working again, but at that tiny amount of calories, theres nothing for the Xenical to work on. Are you seeing a nurse whilst on this? Maybe they could give you a few pointers.
I would definately up my calorie intake and even if your not used to eating lots try and have 3 to 5 smaller meals throughout the day. This doesnt have to be massive platefuls either, a couple of boiled eggs and oatcakes, small can of soup, tin of tuna with some kidney beans etc. Quick things that you could have during the day instead of a larger meal all at once.
I completely understand where you are coming from, I have 3 kids myself and running about after them I used to forget to eat until 3 or 4 in the afternoon when I would be completely ravenous and stuff my face till I was ill.
I have definately noticed a difference in my moods, tolerance and energy since spreading my meals out better. It might help to keep a food diary on here, we all just want to help each other here, as we are all going through, or have been through the same
All the best
x

slimslow71 · 4th September, 2008

i have loved all the support on here and i have gone out and got weight watchers meals i know from past its about 29 points per day and go on the points on the box so im going to try eat 3 or 4 meals a day and my 5 fruits or veg hopefully in a week ill notice something lol i have also measured myself and wasnt pleased with the results i think i had a wake up call i will try keeep a diary online too either here or on myspace thanks for the loverly support all this site has really given me the confidence so far not to quit

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slimslow71 Regular Member slimslow71's Profile Albums slimslow71's Photo Gallery Join Date: 31st August, 2008 Location: i live in essex uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0 Diet: xenical	am i doing enough?? im on a low cal diet and work out on my cross trainer everday for 30 mins i burn over 200 kcals and i eat sensable no fatty stuff just fruit and veg and grill the everything just that i got on the scales today and i put on weight im starting the gym soon well next tuesday on fit 4 life and taking xenical but im putting on weigh and not taking it off anyone know where im going wrong??

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MzMonday Likes to post MzMonday's Profile Albums MzMonday's Photo Gallery Join Date: 30th August, 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 108 My Mood: Rep Power: 2 Diet: Calorie Counting	You could be losing inches rather than weight on the scale (are you measuring?) You could be putting on muscle due to working out, so in place of fat, muscle is growing (and I think per the amount of space the muscle takes up versus the fat, the muscle weighs more) You could be retaining fluid (do you eat a lot of salt? I ask because salt can keep water on you and also when you sweat the salt in your body depletes and this can also make you retain fluid) Your body could be thinking you are starving to death due to the low calories and thus it hangs on to and stores everything it can There are a lot of reasons you could be gaining. Have you dieted long? Sometimes this can mess with your metabolism. Hopefully you can figure it out. Good luck! __________________ Week 1/Sept 8th, 2008: 205lbs (6lb lost) Week 2/Sept 15th, 2008: 205lbs (2lb lost) Mini Weight Loss Goal: 185lbs (26lbs from start weight) by Christmas

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MzMonday Likes to post MzMonday's Profile Albums MzMonday's Photo Gallery Join Date: 30th August, 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 108 My Mood: Rep Power: 2 Diet: Calorie Counting	From what I have read a woman's body needs about 1200 calories to sustain itself when it's sedentary (heart beating, blood to the brain/lungs, etc). If you have eaten real low calorie for a long time, your metabolism dropped because your body was convinced you were starving to death. When you go into this starvation mode your body will start eating itself, including your fat and muscles (e.g. your heart). Not only that, but your body says "oh my god, we are starving" and then it hangs onto every single little piece of energy it can and stores it as fat because it's terrified that if it doesn't, it will die. There are people who go on VLCD (very low calorie diets), but those are more in the range of 600 calories per day and they are specific diets with specific food requirements to make sure you are getting what you need. As far as I know most people don't stay on them for more than a month, then they switch out for a higher calorie diet for a month, and then switch back. At least, that's how I think it works, I haven't tried it and I am not interested - I am having a tough enough time keeping my calories between 1500-1650 Your metabolism is hurting if you have eaten this low calorie for a long time. You are just going to have to increase your calories over time and accept the initial gain. Long term, if you get your metabolism back where it should be, you will have an easier time losing. I know the initial gain sucks but not much to be done about it. And measure, odds are you are losing inches if you are working out that hard __________________ Week 1/Sept 8th, 2008: 205lbs (6lb lost) Week 2/Sept 15th, 2008: 205lbs (2lb lost) Mini Weight Loss Goal: 185lbs (26lbs from start weight) by Christmas

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MzMonday Likes to post MzMonday's Profile Albums MzMonday's Photo Gallery Join Date: 30th August, 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 108 My Mood: Rep Power: 2 Diet: Calorie Counting	Just be sure to get your calories from healthy sources and spread them out over your day. When you increase your calories initially you may gain weight, but over time your metabolism will speed back up and you'll be back on track. Sorry you are having such a tough time __________________ Week 1/Sept 8th, 2008: 205lbs (6lb lost) Week 2/Sept 15th, 2008: 205lbs (2lb lost) Mini Weight Loss Goal: 185lbs (26lbs from start weight) by Christmas

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slimslow71 Regular Member slimslow71's Profile Albums slimslow71's Photo Gallery Join Date: 31st August, 2008 Location: i live in essex uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0 Diet: xenical	somehow i think your right i get side tracked as with house work and looking after kids as well as shopping i dont stop to eat like i should i tend to just eat one meal a day and thats just low cal around 270+ and taking xenical as well i know i dont drink enough water but i havent ever been a big eater i never have breakfast normally one meal aday im not really sure how i got this big as i never snack but i used to lounge around before this diet too as i have degerative disk diease which is painful most days now ive gone on this diet its hard adjusting my life style i always seem to busy and just skip meals thanks for the advice maybe i will try start eating more but its eating that scares me too

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slimslow71 Regular Member slimslow71's Profile Albums slimslow71's Photo Gallery Join Date: 31st August, 2008 Location: i live in essex uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0 Diet: xenical	thanks for the advice i will go out and get a tape measure today ive been on this diet for 6 weeks now with exercise and like i say all ive done is gained (due to not eating enough i think) but i have it in my mind if i eat im going to get fat but i guess im wrong just hope i can kick myself into eating small meals aday instead of one small meal

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stacey i love minimins me :) stacey's Profile Albums stacey's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th March, 2007 Location: South Shields Posts: 1,369 My Mood: Rep Power: 26 Diet: Slimming world Start Weight: 233lb Current Weight: 219lb Goal Weight: 147lb Goal Date: July 2010 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 14lb Weight to Lose: 72lb % Lost 6.01%	hey welcome to minimins, i dont have anything else to add from what others have said but jus wanted to wish u luck on ur journey xxx __________________ 1 stone crimbo challenge(8/11/08) Target (wedding dress shopping) Goals To loose 7lb DONE To loose a stone - DONE 15st 7lbs(16lbs) - 2lbs to go 15st 2lbs (1 & 1/2stone) 15st (10% - 23lbs) 14st 9lbs (2 stone) 14st 2lbs (2 & 1/2stone) 13st 9lbs (3 stone gone) 13 st 3lb(w8 wen met H2B 48lbs) 12st 10lbs (overweight)

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slimslow71 Regular Member slimslow71's Profile Albums slimslow71's Photo Gallery Join Date: 31st August, 2008 Location: i live in essex uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0 Diet: xenical	ty hun for the welcome

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nevarine Member nevarine's Profile Albums nevarine's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd September, 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Hey Slimslow! You seem to be doing everything right. Thing is, weight isn't the only measure for getting fit. For example, if you haven't exercised before, you might be gaining muscle mass which weighs more than the fat you are losing, so overall you're not losing weight but you're getting slimmer. Or, if you started your routine in less than two weeks or so, you'll need to keep at it before you see results. But in the end, no matter what your genetics, if you do things right and keep at it, you will lose weight. Hope this helps!

3rd September, 2008	#11 (permalink)
Sabina forever starting over Sabina's Profile Albums Sabina's Photo Gallery Join Date: 24th April, 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 307 Rep Power: 4 Diet: healthier eating	dont lose hope, you will start to see the changes. You do need to eat more but spread the small portions throughout the day and you definitely need water as i am learning now. a few of us are doing the sensible eating and exercise and aiming for around 1lb a week loss so im sure you'll find the support you need in some of the discussion forums. good luck x __________________ Goal 1 = get below 12 stone *(achieved)* Goal 2 = 11 and a half stone Goal 3 = 11 stone 4 Goal 4 = BMI 24.9 Goal 5 = get below 11 stone October 20/10/08= 11.12 new start 27/10/08= 11.9 (-3lbs) 3/11/08 = 11.10 (+1lbs) 10/11/08= 17/11/08= 24/11/08=

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alibalibee Likes to post alibalibee's Profile Albums alibalibee's Photo Gallery Join Date: 17th June, 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 358 My Mood: Rep Power: 10 Diet: Xenical...low fat Height: 5' 5" Start Date: 21/04/07 Start Weight: 298lb Current Weight: 227lb BMI Information: Current BMI: 37.8 Start BMI: 49.6 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 71lb % Lost 23.83%	Sorry did I read this right? You eat 270 cals a day and you're taking Xenical? No way is that enough and your body will go into starvation mode and hang onto every last ounce of fat it can. I'm on Xencial and I consume roughly 1800 calories a day, and use up about 300-400 through exercise. I'm losing about 1½ - 2lbs a week. If you're consuming so little calories, then Xenical wont work. Each meal should be between 12-15g of fat, and you should be having about 50g of fat per day ( this is info from my Xenical nurse). If I've miss read your post then just ignore me hun But please if you really are eating so very little, you're going to make yourself ill hun xxx __________________ starting weight 21st 4lbs ( April 2007) Xenical starting weight 20st 4lbs ( 21st April 2008) Current Weight 16st 3½lbs

4th September, 2008	#13 (permalink)
Starlight Moderator Starlight's Profile Albums Starlight's Photo Gallery Tournaments Won: 263 Join Date: 28th December, 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 17,032 My Mood: Rep Power: 400 Diet: Weight Watchers Height: 5' 11" Start Date: Jan 09 2007	Welcome to Minimins Sounds like youre definitely not eating enough, why not start a diary and you can post your meals etc and get some help. Or you may benefit from a more structured diet like WW or SW. If youre eating so little then Xenical probably wont work for you __________________ Jan 9 2007 - Started WeightWatchers Jan 9 2008 - lost 127lbs (9.1stones) Next Mini goal: 175lbs - 12.5 stones

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flumpster67 In a whirl flumpster67's Profile Albums flumpster67's Photo Gallery Join Date: 21st July, 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 139 My Mood: Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 2 Diet: Not 'on' a diet - Marissa Peer has changed my perceptions!	Hi Slimslow, As everyone else says, you DEFINATELY need to eat more - not only to give your metabolism a good kick into working again, but at that tiny amount of calories, theres nothing for the Xenical to work on. Are you seeing a nurse whilst on this? Maybe they could give you a few pointers. I would definately up my calorie intake and even if your not used to eating lots try and have 3 to 5 smaller meals throughout the day. This doesnt have to be massive platefuls either, a couple of boiled eggs and oatcakes, small can of soup, tin of tuna with some kidney beans etc. Quick things that you could have during the day instead of a larger meal all at once. I completely understand where you are coming from, I have 3 kids myself and running about after them I used to forget to eat until 3 or 4 in the afternoon when I would be completely ravenous and stuff my face till I was ill. I have definately noticed a difference in my moods, tolerance and energy since spreading my meals out better. It might help to keep a food diary on here, we all just want to help each other here, as we are all going through, or have been through the same All the best x __________________ Start weight 15st 10lb 21st June Mini Goal 7lbs loss by end August - acheived 12th August Mini Goal 1 st off by my birthday (27/9) Mini Goal BMI less than 30 - out of obese range by end September

4th September, 2008	#15 (permalink)
slimslow71 Regular Member slimslow71's Profile Albums slimslow71's Photo Gallery Join Date: 31st August, 2008 Location: i live in essex uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0 Diet: xenical	i have loved all the support on here and i have gone out and got weight watchers meals i know from past its about 29 points per day and go on the points on the box so im going to try eat 3 or 4 meals a day and my 5 fruits or veg hopefully in a week ill notice something lol i have also measured myself and wasnt pleased with the results i think i had a wake up call i will try keeep a diary online too either here or on myspace thanks for the loverly support all this site has really given me the confidence so far not to quit

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