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clairejen · 2nd August, 2007

Thanks Cheryl, I do feel I have been messing about with this, it is silly when I have so little to go. A bit more concentration and I ought to make it. I feel a bit better after the walk, now must tackle some more water.

clairejen · 2nd August, 2007

Shock horror, I have realised that I was taking in a much larger number of calories than I thought in mugs of coffee I didn't even want! So I'm cutting back to a couple a day, at least one black.

I've been very good today, DD and still under 400 calories. I'm out this evening so few chances to be bad. Hopefully I have found the key! I didn't eat breakfast, and have had proteins with complex carbs only. Discovered some WW yogurts I actually like at 49-57 a pot. All in all I am feeling positive, a bit disappointed that Barb is moving to another diet but I know this has to be done sometimes, wish you all the best Barb.

clairejen · 3rd August, 2007

Having been moaning about the weight sticking I now have an even bigger moan, it has gone up! I went out to dinner with frineds the night before last,it was an UD and therefore all permissable. High on carbs and alcohol, but I avoided truly evil options (had a small piece of apple pie rather than chocolate cheesecake). So the next morning I was up to 10st and half a pound. OK I thought, fair enough, I shall lose this quickly. So I was extra good yesterday, ended up under 470cals, weighed and counted everything, drank water which I hate. And my weight this morning is the same, still not back under 10.

I know the scales are satanic devices sent to torture us, but I feel understandably miffed. The question is could I be strong enough to dump this habit and just weigh once a week. But if that once a week weighing showed a rise how could I cope with that.

I don't feel ready to make any decisions yet. I'll have a good think over the weekend, because I am starting to obsess about this and it shouldn't be such a big deal.

clairejen · 5th August, 2007

Still can't shift this extra weight, I am stuck at 10st0.5lbs, even after being good on UDs and keeping to around 470cals on DDs. Today is an UD so I am maybe even looking at a rise tomorrow.

I'll try to drink more water, I know this is an area I neglect and now that the weather is warmer I probably need more anyway. I've been feeling a little vertiginous and nauseous the last couple of mornings, I wonder if it has anything to do with cutting down the caffeine? Seems unlikely, on holiday I only have a couple of coffees a day and manage fine. Maybe being on holiday all the time is the answer!

girlygirl · 5th August, 2007

To lose a pound of fat - not water, fat - you need to burn off 3,500 calories.

At the beginning of any diet you lose a fair amount, mainly water. On a VLCD you lose a ton of water, because you are severely limiting carbs. Then, provided you don't cheat, and you are counting your calories/carbs correctly, you lose at a steady rate.

After a while the body gets used to eating less, so the weight loss slows down and even stops entirely for brief periods. To counteract this you either eat even less - not very healthy and your body would slow down more to accommodate it - or you increase your activity.

Either way, one pound of body fat off means burning 3,500 calories. Or eating 3,500 less.

Try not to expect fast losses all the time, because you are only heading for disappointment. Try not to keep jumping on the scales - it becomes so addictive you can't stop. Weighing once a week is much better.

Good luck!

clairejen · 6th August, 2007

Hi Girlygirl, thanks for the comments. I am not actually on a VLCD, with JUDDDD you have normal calories one day and low calories the next to avoid just the metabolic slowdown you describe. With this diet you are cutting out around 4500 calories a week, which should be a pound and a half weight loss on average. I have been doing the diet for 2 months now, with a couple of weeks out for my holiday, which is why the plateau is expected but still annoying.

Scales are a problem, but when I let my weight go up I tend to avoid them, so the two go hand in hand in my mind. Weighing as a daily routine is better than ignoring weight gain, I try to look at the general trend rather than individual days, but since the trend atm is a horizontal line it is fairly easy to see!

clairejen · 6th August, 2007

Still no weight change, which is actually quite a relief since I overdid it big time on the chocolate front yesterday. DD today, and I had a bp check at the doctors, now officially normal again - hooray. Back on 6 month checks (from 3). I don't know if it is just from weight loss - I was 11st5.5lbs when it first rose - or whether the much vaunted health effects of JUDDDD are helping.

DD today, and so far I have had no problems or hunger pangs. Ate breakfast about 10.30, fromage frais, quark and grapes (about 47 calories). Making sure there is some protein content does seem to make a difference.

**Barb** · 6th August, 2007

Hi Claire

sorry the scales are not being more obliging! You are being good though and sticking with the plan, I as you know, have slipped and slid into non diet mode! I don't honestly know what to do; I liked JUDDD very much for it's percieved freedom but when I started to realsie I needed to count on UD's too I lost interest a bit. Then with all that has gone on with my parents over the last 4 weeks I am in a pickle. I have been looking (granted not closely) at the Unit diet and it does look like it could have a good success rate, although it is still rather new. My weight is creeping back up, of the 8lbs lost 4 have crept back which I am not happy about (not surprised either!).
I know I need to make a decision and stick to it. Accept being fat and live with it is one option. Find a plan I can live with and lose weight on is another. The answer should be screamingly obvious, but you know what? It isn't. I am so sick of the highs and lows of 'dieting'. I was so inspired by JUDDD but I just wasn't getting the results. OF the 8lbs lost 6 were in the first 2 weeks. I feel rotten deserting you as I know you enjoyed us sharing the Juddd, but I really don't think I can do it. I am going to take a breathing space, then make a decision about my future.

I wish you all the best for the rest of your journey, you have done so well and I know you have it in you to finish what you have started.

Good luck,

Love

clairejen · 6th August, 2007

Thanks Barb. I don't have any doubts about JUDDDD as a maintenance system, and I am sure my current difficulties are a plateau which will end eventually. But I am close to my target, and reasonably happy with myself as I am, so it isn't too big an issue for me. I can sympathise with your position, you need to see the results and maybe this diet isn't the one you need at the moment. For me, I was failing to lose at all on other diets, so JUDDDD suits me better, at least if I'm not losing I can still eat half the time!

I looked at the unit diet, a new diet always attracts a lot of interest doesn't it. The sample diets and the things people are eating and raving about leave me cold, not the sort of food I like at all, but Natalie showed me the handbook which lists almost everything you can think of and the unit values. Seems like high fats and nuts are penalised severely, starchy foods score fairly low, proteins sort of average. If the thought of it appeals to you then why not give it a try? I did wonder if it would be a good UD method, more control than just eating what I fancy but less effort than checking every calorie.

clairejen · 7th August, 2007

Scales finally moved downwards, now I am back to 9st13.25lbs, where I was 10 days ago! Keeping everything crossed that it is the end of the plateau, it seems like I've been messing about here for ever.

DDs on 470 calories are quite hard, there is no room for small treats or slip ups, it is really a case of lean meat and salad/veg and fatfree dairy with a bit of fruit, and not that much of anything. If that is what it takes to make me lose then I can do it, it is only every other day after all. I must confess I was hungry last night, in the end I went to bed early rather than risk eating anything.

bakerfa · 7th August, 2007

Yeay!

They had to move eventually! Woohoo - under 10 stone. Well done! (The last time I was under 10 stone was when I was 15 so 14 years ago - maybe by the time I hit 30 next July I'll be back there again! Definite target I think!)

Well done anyway!

Love xxx

clairejen · 8th August, 2007

Thanks Anja, I am really struggling to keep under 10 stone. That is my overall aim, never to go over 10 again. My target (which somehow seems a long way off although it is only 6lbs) is still 9st 7lbs which gives a good margin for fluctuations - I just hope it isn't between clothes sizes.

After yesterday's UD I am 9st13.5lbs, up very slightly but still under the bar. I was a bit bad yesterday but not overly so. I'm trying not to eat until midday today, DDs are easier when you don't start too early. The 470 limit is the way to go I think, unfortunately. 50 calories means a lot, but there's no point in doing it if I don't do it properly, the only person I'd be cheating is myself.

clairejen · 10th August, 2007

After another DD I was 10st again, and still there after the UD yesterday. I really don't know how to tackle this. My DDs are 470, no way am I eating 3500 on my UDs so I ought to be losing. But I'm not, if anything I am gaining. I'm going to look closely at the unit diet today to see if I can use that for my UDs, I'm too scared to change diets completely at the moment.

girlygirl · 10th August, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by clairejen

Hi Girlygirl, thanks for the comments. I am not actually on a VLCD, with JUDDDD you have normal calories one day and low calories the next to avoid just the metabolic slowdown you describe. With this diet you are cutting out around 4500 calories a week, which should be a pound and a half weight loss on average. I have been doing the diet for 2 months now, with a couple of weeks out for my holiday, which is why the plateau is expected but still annoying.

Scales are a problem, but when I let my weight go up I tend to avoid them, so the two go hand in hand in my mind. Weighing as a daily routine is better than ignoring weight gain, I try to look at the general trend rather than individual days, but since the trend atm is a horizontal line it is fairly easy to see!

I know you're JUDDDing!

My point was that you have to consume 3,500 fewer calories to lose one pound of fat. You had an up day followed by a very good down day - and you didn't see a loss next morning. That was because you had not reduced calories sufficiently to promote a marked loss over a period of one day.

Also our bodies are very clever. They begin to anticipate what we do, calorie wise. If you regularly eat a lot one day and very little the next the body will get used to that pattern and not go into the shock weight loss reaction!

It might be better to have two modest up days followed by a strict down day. Have you tried that?

clairejen · 10th August, 2007

My usual pattern is to have DD on Mon, Wed, and Fri, with UDs Tue, Thu and all weekend, so it is a fairly varied pattern. I'm not complaining that one UD plus one DD did not make me lose weight, I haven't lost any weight for two and a half weeks.

2nd August, 2007	#16 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Thanks Cheryl, I do feel I have been messing about with this, it is silly when I have so little to go. A bit more concentration and I ought to make it. I feel a bit better after the walk, now must tackle some more water. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

2nd August, 2007	#17 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Shock horror, I have realised that I was taking in a much larger number of calories than I thought in mugs of coffee I didn't even want! So I'm cutting back to a couple a day, at least one black. I've been very good today, DD and still under 400 calories. I'm out this evening so few chances to be bad. Hopefully I have found the key! I didn't eat breakfast, and have had proteins with complex carbs only. Discovered some WW yogurts I actually like at 49-57 a pot. All in all I am feeling positive, a bit disappointed that Barb is moving to another diet but I know this has to be done sometimes, wish you all the best Barb. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

3rd August, 2007	#18 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Having been moaning about the weight sticking I now have an even bigger moan, it has gone up! I went out to dinner with frineds the night before last,it was an UD and therefore all permissable. High on carbs and alcohol, but I avoided truly evil options (had a small piece of apple pie rather than chocolate cheesecake). So the next morning I was up to 10st and half a pound. OK I thought, fair enough, I shall lose this quickly. So I was extra good yesterday, ended up under 470cals, weighed and counted everything, drank water which I hate. And my weight this morning is the same, still not back under 10. I know the scales are satanic devices sent to torture us, but I feel understandably miffed. The question is could I be strong enough to dump this habit and just weigh once a week. But if that once a week weighing showed a rise how could I cope with that. I don't feel ready to make any decisions yet. I'll have a good think over the weekend, because I am starting to obsess about this and it shouldn't be such a big deal. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

5th August, 2007	#19 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Still can't shift this extra weight, I am stuck at 10st0.5lbs, even after being good on UDs and keeping to around 470cals on DDs. Today is an UD so I am maybe even looking at a rise tomorrow. I'll try to drink more water, I know this is an area I neglect and now that the weather is warmer I probably need more anyway. I've been feeling a little vertiginous and nauseous the last couple of mornings, I wonder if it has anything to do with cutting down the caffeine? Seems unlikely, on holiday I only have a couple of coffees a day and manage fine. Maybe being on holiday all the time is the answer! __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

6th August, 2007	#21 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Hi Girlygirl, thanks for the comments. I am not actually on a VLCD, with JUDDDD you have normal calories one day and low calories the next to avoid just the metabolic slowdown you describe. With this diet you are cutting out around 4500 calories a week, which should be a pound and a half weight loss on average. I have been doing the diet for 2 months now, with a couple of weeks out for my holiday, which is why the plateau is expected but still annoying. Scales are a problem, but when I let my weight go up I tend to avoid them, so the two go hand in hand in my mind. Weighing as a daily routine is better than ignoring weight gain, I try to look at the general trend rather than individual days, but since the trend atm is a horizontal line it is fairly easy to see! __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

5th August, 2007	#20 (permalink)
girlygirl Likes to post girlygirl's Profile Albums girlygirl's Photo Gallery Join Date: 4th March, 2007 Posts: 547 My Mood: Rep Power: 15	To lose a pound of fat - not water, fat - you need to burn off 3,500 calories. At the beginning of any diet you lose a fair amount, mainly water. On a VLCD you lose a ton of water, because you are severely limiting carbs. Then, provided you don't cheat, and you are counting your calories/carbs correctly, you lose at a steady rate. After a while the body gets used to eating less, so the weight loss slows down and even stops entirely for brief periods. To counteract this you either eat even less - not very healthy and your body would slow down more to accommodate it - or you increase your activity. Either way, one pound of body fat off means burning 3,500 calories. Or eating 3,500 less. Try not to expect fast losses all the time, because you are only heading for disappointment. Try not to keep jumping on the scales - it becomes so addictive you can't stop. Weighing once a week is much better. Good luck!

6th August, 2007	#22 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Still no weight change, which is actually quite a relief since I overdid it big time on the chocolate front yesterday. DD today, and I had a bp check at the doctors, now officially normal again - hooray. Back on 6 month checks (from 3). I don't know if it is just from weight loss - I was 11st5.5lbs when it first rose - or whether the much vaunted health effects of JUDDDD are helping. DD today, and so far I have had no problems or hunger pangs. Ate breakfast about 10.30, fromage frais, quark and grapes (about 47 calories). Making sure there is some protein content does seem to make a difference. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

6th August, 2007	#23 (permalink)
Barb Moderator Barb's Profile Albums Barb's Photo Gallery Join Date: 22nd July, 2006 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2,847 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 94 Diet: cal counting	Hi Claire sorry the scales are not being more obliging! You are being good though and sticking with the plan, I as you know, have slipped and slid into non diet mode! I don't honestly know what to do; I liked JUDDD very much for it's percieved freedom but when I started to realsie I needed to count on UD's too I lost interest a bit. Then with all that has gone on with my parents over the last 4 weeks I am in a pickle. I have been looking (granted not closely) at the Unit diet and it does look like it could have a good success rate, although it is still rather new. My weight is creeping back up, of the 8lbs lost 4 have crept back which I am not happy about (not surprised either!). I know I need to make a decision and stick to it. Accept being fat and live with it is one option. Find a plan I can live with and lose weight on is another. The answer should be screamingly obvious, but you know what? It isn't. I am so sick of the highs and lows of 'dieting'. I was so inspired by JUDDD but I just wasn't getting the results. OF the 8lbs lost 6 were in the first 2 weeks. I feel rotten deserting you as I know you enjoyed us sharing the Juddd, but I really don't think I can do it. I am going to take a breathing space, then make a decision about my future. I wish you all the best for the rest of your journey, you have done so well and I know you have it in you to finish what you have started. Good luck, Love __________________ *Barb xx* *13th October - start of looking after self more!* Week One - lost 3lbs Week two - STS, but thats ok! Week three - lost 2lbs! Week four -1lb on

6th August, 2007	#24 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Thanks Barb. I don't have any doubts about JUDDDD as a maintenance system, and I am sure my current difficulties are a plateau which will end eventually. But I am close to my target, and reasonably happy with myself as I am, so it isn't too big an issue for me. I can sympathise with your position, you need to see the results and maybe this diet isn't the one you need at the moment. For me, I was failing to lose at all on other diets, so JUDDDD suits me better, at least if I'm not losing I can still eat half the time! I looked at the unit diet, a new diet always attracts a lot of interest doesn't it. The sample diets and the things people are eating and raving about leave me cold, not the sort of food I like at all, but Natalie showed me the handbook which lists almost everything you can think of and the unit values. Seems like high fats and nuts are penalised severely, starchy foods score fairly low, proteins sort of average. If the thought of it appeals to you then why not give it a try? I did wonder if it would be a good UD method, more control than just eating what I fancy but less effort than checking every calorie. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

7th August, 2007	#25 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Scales finally moved downwards, now I am back to 9st13.25lbs, where I was 10 days ago! Keeping everything crossed that it is the end of the plateau, it seems like I've been messing about here for ever. DDs on 470 calories are quite hard, there is no room for small treats or slip ups, it is really a case of lean meat and salad/veg and fatfree dairy with a bit of fruit, and not that much of anything. If that is what it takes to make me lose then I can do it, it is only every other day after all. I must confess I was hungry last night, in the end I went to bed early rather than risk eating anything. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

7th August, 2007	#26 (permalink)
bakerfa Likes to post bakerfa's Profile Albums bakerfa's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th July, 2006 Location: Paddock Wood, Kent Posts: 897 Rep Power: 13 Diet: LL then CD then WLR!	Yeay! They had to move eventually! Woohoo - under 10 stone. Well done! (The last time I was under 10 stone was when I was 15 so 14 years ago - maybe by the time I hit 30 next July I'll be back there again! Definite target I think!) Well done anyway! Love xxx __________________ Anja Overall: (Started 20/01/2006) New start: 30/08/07: Goals: G1: Into the 11s - Done! G2: 161 lbs - 20% loss G3: Get to 11,7 by 13/10/07 G4: Get into the 10s

8th August, 2007	#27 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	Thanks Anja, I am really struggling to keep under 10 stone. That is my overall aim, never to go over 10 again. My target (which somehow seems a long way off although it is only 6lbs) is still 9st 7lbs which gives a good margin for fluctuations - I just hope it isn't between clothes sizes. After yesterday's UD I am 9st13.5lbs, up very slightly but still under the bar. I was a bit bad yesterday but not overly so. I'm trying not to eat until midday today, DDs are easier when you don't start too early. The 470 limit is the way to go I think, unfortunately. 50 calories means a lot, but there's no point in doing it if I don't do it properly, the only person I'd be cheating is myself. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

10th August, 2007	#28 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	After another DD I was 10st again, and still there after the UD yesterday. I really don't know how to tackle this. My DDs are 470, no way am I eating 3500 on my UDs so I ought to be losing. But I'm not, if anything I am gaining. I'm going to look closely at the unit diet today to see if I can use that for my UDs, I'm too scared to change diets completely at the moment. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

10th August, 2007	#30 (permalink)
clairejen Needs a life clairejen's Profile Albums clairejen's Photo Gallery Happy Memory Champion! Join Date: 24th October, 2006 Location: Kings Lynn Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 19 Diet: Cambridge	My usual pattern is to have DD on Mon, Wed, and Fri, with UDs Tue, Thu and all weekend, so it is a fairly varied pattern. I'm not complaining that one UD plus one DD did not make me lose weight, I haven't lost any weight for two and a half weeks. __________________ Claire "tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you tomorrow, you're only a day away"

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