LighterLife Men's Forum

[lemma1968]

If anything, i hear people criticising LL because they believe that as soon as we start eating again we will put all the weight back on and up to that point we are all anorexic, its dangerous and no reputable GP worth his salt will recommend it.

To be honest, i just don't discuss it with people so i can have a quiet life.

People will always make generalised remarks rather than actually research the facts.

Its a defence mechanism. No-one likes to think they backed the wrong horse.

[mikey]

Originally Posted by Petey

Sure, im in.

Cheers Petey.

[KD]

Nothing wrong with WW. They have many success stories.

The perfect diet is the one that is working for you at your present time.

I do agree that it would be confusing to mix a VLCD forum with something like WW though.

We'll see what we can come up with

[Corey]

Mike,

I totally agree with you, I have tried WW and SW, and was actually on SW for 8 months and despite following the diet plan my weight yo-yo'd throughout the entire experience to the point that I figured this wasn't going to work, especially after finishing off with a 2lb gain!!

This is a totally different diet plan to Cambridge, IPD, WW, SW, and every tea and drug concoction that is that out there. LL is unique in its approach to dieting, it is the only one that offers the councilling, so think it should have it's own forum.

[Starlight]

Originally Posted by mikey

I don't think so Starlight.
I for one do not use the general weight loss boards.
I am absolutely not interested in anything to do with WeightWatchers and that sort of diet and I would not bother contributing or reading a thread that covers so-called diets like WW.

I am sure that I am not alone in this.

An interesting question though - is there a certain zeal about VLCD's?

Several people on LL that I have spoken to have nothing but scorn for WW yet praise LL, and I have to say that the evidence does seem to point to the fact that VLCDs are the most effective way of losing a lot of weight. Perhaps WW is Ok for those with a few pounds to lose though.

What an arrogant post. You obviously didnt take the time to look at my ticker then. Ive lost almost 10 stones on WW. How dare you refer to it as a 'so called diet'

My suggestion for a general forum was because of the male angle, I think men are possibly put off by posting a lot of the time because theyre so outnumbered.

If you cant be bothered reading or supporting people on other diets as well, maybe Minimins isnt the place for you.

[Blonde Logic]

Starlight, you have the patience and determination of a saint!! WELL DONE YOU!!!! That is very good going on WW!!! I did WW in the states, and I thought it was a great diet, especially as there were some prepared meals that made it simple in times of chaos!! But I did not have the stick-to-itiveness that you do. I am so impressed, and you must feel bl**dy proud of yourself!! I never noticed you had lost all that on WW....I tend to stay in the LL forum and when others post there I suppose I assume they are on LL too....or CD....so I am just in awe of you now. You now have "hero status" - something I don;t give out willy nilly!!

xx

[bexnkev]

Here here BL... I'm with you on that ... congrates to you Starlight (I have no problem with WW, just never had the willpower to stick to it!)

[lemma1968]

It really is very much horses for courses.

I did weight watchers for some time years ago and lost a bit of weight but the choice of foods did it for me...temptation took over and willpower lost out.

With all diets, research and experience is the only thing that people could or should comment on.

Generalisations about anything are just not productive and lead to arguments and misunderstandings....such as has now happened here.

Come on folks, lets be supportive and be friends. Everyone is doing well so far along the weight reduction plan they have chosen.

It really is not "them and us".

[Isis]

Afternoon Folks

I also think the idea of a mens board is a great idea. Another thread of support that goes one step further in developing our community for everyone. We all have similar issues after all


Lacey..x

[Starlight]

Originally Posted by lemma1968

It really is very much horses for courses.

I did weight watchers for some time years ago and lost a bit of weight but the choice of foods did it for me...temptation took over and willpower lost out.

With all diets, research and experience is the only thing that people could or should comment on.

Generalisations about anything are just not productive and lead to arguments and misunderstandings....such as has now happened here.

Come on folks, lets be supportive and be friends. Everyone is doing well so far along the weight reduction plan they have chosen.

It really is not "them and us".

Thanks BL & bex

Well said lemma, youre spot on it IS down to each of us to find the diet that works for us. This forum is about support whatever diet youre on. I just think its offensive to dismiss a particular diet out of hand as a 'so called diet' when its proven to work.

We're all in this together and should be able to offer support even to those on a different diet to our chosen one.

[Barb]

I'm with Starlight on this one; fine do your favourite diet, promote it to others if you feel enthusiastic about it.

But never, ever, ignorantly disrespect a diet that someone has done with such phenomenal success. It really just makes the person writing so judgementally, look very stupid.

[Corey]

I think this thread is now going in a totally different direction to what was intended!

I have not looked looked at the entire minimins website for one simple reason, I am doing LL and wanted direct support from others doing LL, I had no interest in gathering support from people on other diets for one simple reason - I am not dismissing that regardless of what plan you follow, dieting is bl**dy hard, but have found that with LL and the abstinence of food, it is especially hard, and something that those on WW or SW will not fully understand - trust me, I have done them all and my weight has yo-yo'd for 22 years. LL really is a "when all else has failed" diet, it is extreme.

I know Mike, he attends the same LL group as me, as is one of the least arrogant people I know.

This thread is supposed to be about petitioning for a LL mens forum, not to whinge and moan about other diet plans.

Here's one final question for you - next time you go to your respective weigh ins, how many men stay for the session afterwards - from my experience not that many (in fact on the 3 different SW groups I have been to over the years and the 1 WW the male that stayed was me). This is totally different in LL and would therefore suggest a mens forum in LL. If I was still in SW, I would probably requesting the same thing there, for the simple reason - I am doing SW and want support from those going through the same diet program - sorry to me it makes sense to have mens groups for each of the diet plans - with men being the simple folk we are - we don't look around, we go straight to what is relevant for us!

[Corey]

blimey, don't I waffle on?

[Starlight]

Youll find that any suggestions put forward on Minimins are always well discussed so they can be progressed in the best way forward for the me