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Old 26th February, 2008   #31 (permalink)
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Cheers for the support Corey, and I am sorry that I have upset you Starlight, I certainly didn't intend to.

What didn't come across properly was that I wrote "so-called" with a smile as I did so - and it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek (though of course I can see that it could easily be taken literally), particularly as I went on to mention the zeal around certain diets.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. At least we generated some good discussion and kept this post up the ratings a bit so that a few other chaps have been able to see it.

Apologies again.

P.S. this does not mean that I think all men on different diets should have a single forum. I am on LL because I believe a VLCD is the only way for me to get where I need to be - and LL in particular because of the counselling and support of fellow group members (Corey and Patrick for example). I really would not touch WW or SW with a bargepole, as i think there are fundamental problems in what they do, but that is just me, and I admire anybody that has lost a lot of weight in any way.

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Im sure the idea of a Mens Forum is being looked at, whether its exclusively for LL or a more general one, but whatever happens with it, its no excuse to be so rude & dismissive of another, very successful form of weight loss
I'm not sure that I was rude about a form of weight-loss, dismissive indeed, but not rude.

Anyway I'd better re-read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus again as I had forgotten how much can be read into a simple comment if you are not careful (Said tongue-in cheek with a smile on my face just to be quite clear this time)

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Now you are talking about food again !!!

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I'm not sure that I was rude about a form of weight-loss, dismissive indeed, but not rude.

Anyway I'd better re-read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus again as I had forgotten how much can be read into a simple comment if you are not careful (Said tongue-in cheek with a smile on my face just to be quite clear this time)

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lol - Mikey, I read that book once, or started it. I think by the the third page I realised just how much I drove my ex husband crazy!! I figured that was enough reading!!! LOL
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The thought had crossed my mind while I was typing it!!
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lol - Mikey, I read that book once, or started it. I think by the the third page I realised just how much I drove my ex husband crazy!! I figured that was enough reading!!! LOL

I know what you mean. It was a good read though as it explained a lot of stuff to me about women wanting sympathy, empathy, shoulder to cry-on, etc, when things are bad, and men just rushing in trying to fix everything! Now I never fix a thing !!
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I know what you mean. It was a good read though as it explained a lot of stuff to me about women wanting sympathy, empathy, shoulder to cry-on, etc, when things are bad, and men just rushing in trying to fix everything! Now I never fix a thing !!

That was a big thing! And it is true! We sometimes just want someone to listen - we know how to fix things - its just an ear we are after!!!

I wouldn;t stop fixing everything though if I were you!! We do have our limits!!
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I think it is a terrific idea to have a men only LL forum.

To add my opinion of the above mentioned statements, I agree that and diet that works for the individual must be a good diet.

I have never been on any other form of diet so I am not ideally placed to comment on others but from my experience of LL it is difficult to see how other regular diets such as WW could be effective as a diet such as the LL programme, just my opinion based on my limited experience.

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Have to say if I could hide my weight as effectively as you hide your height - I wouldn't need to diet lol.

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Cheers for the support Corey, and I am sorry that I have upset you Starlight, I certainly didn't intend to.

Thanks Mike I appreciate that

I really would not touch WW or SW with a bargepole, as i think there are fundamental problems in what they do, but that is just me

Ah see thats how I feel about VLCDs But the fact we're all different is what makes Minimins such a good place

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