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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: Lighter Life | Getting back into Ketosis Hi guys, I'm going to be doing a short stint on abstinence again because I want to lose the half stone that I gained during RtM. It's Day 1 and so far I'm OK, but it is only 11:15!! I really need to stop looking at the clock...! ![]() Do you think I will go back into ketosis faster if I go for a long run tonight..? I know this sounds weird, but I've been running anyway and just wondered whether it might speed up the process of using up my glycogen? My next question is, does anyone know whether or not I can do myself any damage by continuing to run while in ketosis? The reason I ask is that the fitness instructors at my gym are quite horrified by LL and in fact wouldn't give me a programme when I first joined the gym because they were worried about me collapsing and then suing them...and I've also read that exercising vigorously while in ketosis can potentially result in permanent damage to your muscle tissue, but have no idea whether or not this is true. Hoping someone out there knows the truth? Thanks Monkey x |
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| Likes to post Kate78's Profile Albums Kate78's Photo Gallery Join Date: 6th June, 2007 Location: London, UK
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Hopefully someone more knowlegeable will come online, but I would say go for it, exercise (as you have been anyway) but listen to your body, if you start to feel at all unwell that cut back. A lot of ladies in our class have also found that the gym SLOWS DOWN their weight loss! It's almost like the body shuts down if you do too much, I'm trying to go, but more for gentle toning than anything else. | |
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| Im always here! Dancing's Profile Albums Dancing's Photo Gallery Join Date: 11th September, 2007 Location: Melbourne
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Rep Power: 461 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: VLCD Height: 5' 10" Start Date: 14 Jan 2012 Start Weight: 299lb Current Weight: 287lb Goal Weight: 200lb Goal Date: 15 August 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 42.9 Current BMI: 41.2 Goal BMI: 28.7 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 12lb Weight to Lose: 87lb % Lost 4.01% | re getting into ketosis quicker if you do a run. Glycogen is used for bursts of energy and fat is used for long sustained exercise. The best way for you to burn up as much glycogen as poss would be to do intervals of sprinting with your regular jogging. As for whether it can do long term damage to your muscles if you continue to run while in ketosis. You need to be careful and not do too much. Your body can function okay by using the fat as energy but glycogen that is obtained from the carbs in the packs are needed for the brain.... its only source of energy as the brain cannot use fat for its functioning (think the liver needs a little too). So anything that is going to make the body want to call on a quick source of energy (which is what glycogen is) will not be good. I think the main thing with muscle health on a vlcd is protein. We aren't getting alot of it so your muscles can only do so much. i think that is the extent of my knowledge. Don't worry about the fitness instructors - if people don't have any real knowledge of ketosis/the diet then they are going to be horrified.
__________________ 2012 1st goal: lose 10lb in first week DONE ![]() 2nd goal: get into 280s DONE Undone... redoing now.3rd goal: get into 270s 4th goal: get into 260s 5th goal: get into 250s 6th goal: get into 240s 7th goal: get into 230s 8th goal: get into 220s 9th goal: reach 220lb 10th goal: reach 210lb _____________________________________________ Original Stats from LL/CD/Poverty: Diet: LL then CD now poverty Height: 5' 10" Start Date: September 2007 Start Weight: 294lb End Weight: 204lb (dropped to 198lb by June 2010) Goal Weight: 175lb Start BMI: 42.2 End BMI: 29.3 Goal BMI: 25.1 Total Weight Loss: 90lb % Lost 30.61% _____________________ Diet early '11 Start Date: 27 March 2011 Start Weight: 293lb .... didn't get far at all! In fact, I increased ![]() __________________ Diet before Christmas '11 Start Date - 21 Nov Start Weight - 300lb End Weight - 284.4lb |
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: Lighter Life | Thanks very much Kate and Dancing for your replies. Dancing, I hadn't really considered any possibility of my brain suffering if I over do it - scarey stuff...! I sent a mail to LL medical team and this is what they say - 'Itıs important that clients do not overdo it whilst in abstinence, and so we do not recommend a client to start a strenuous activity regimen whilst using abstinence. Physical activity is very important for good health in the general population and is particularly important for weight management; therefore, it is important to establish good habits right from the start. However our advice to clients is to begin to move around more often, with gentle activities such as walking and exercises as recommended on the weekly DVDs, and to gradually build on this. Some clients may, do of course already have physical activity regimes and we would encourage them to continue with these activities, providing however that the activities are moderate and not excessive. They might need to reduce the intensity of their regimen for the first couple of weeks in abstinence; when they are in full ketosis, they will probably be able to resume their original levels of exercise. However, if a client regularly participates in very strenuous, prolonged activity we do advise that they seek professional expert advice eg from a sports physiologist as this may not be appropriate while in abstinence. If at any time while exercising a client feels unwell, they should stop immediately and seek medical advice (eg from their GP). I hope this is helpful' ...So this also doesn't encourage me to train heavily while doing abstinence... All in all I think I would prefer to try and get my head around eating healthily / consistently rather than doing abstinence, or at least until after my race in June. Bit concerned I might be a very big again by then though... I'm so frustrated with myself that I've managed to lose the plot with food already!! Time to get out the green book I think... ![]() Monkey x |
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| Im always here! Dancing's Profile Albums Dancing's Photo Gallery Join Date: 11th September, 2007 Location: Melbourne
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Rep Power: 461 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: VLCD Height: 5' 10" Start Date: 14 Jan 2012 Start Weight: 299lb Current Weight: 287lb Goal Weight: 200lb Goal Date: 15 August 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 42.9 Current BMI: 41.2 Goal BMI: 28.7 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 12lb Weight to Lose: 87lb % Lost 4.01% | thanks for posting that letter from LL HO - really good to have that ... maybe it can be made a sticky for everyone to read as the question of how much exercise, etc etc comes up alot. Always good to have it from the source rather than us saying it. Thanks and good luck whatever you decide to do and with your training (I recommend Low GI/GL as a healthy food plan for life - Nigel Denby has published a few books on it)
__________________ 2012 1st goal: lose 10lb in first week DONE ![]() 2nd goal: get into 280s DONE Undone... redoing now.3rd goal: get into 270s 4th goal: get into 260s 5th goal: get into 250s 6th goal: get into 240s 7th goal: get into 230s 8th goal: get into 220s 9th goal: reach 220lb 10th goal: reach 210lb _____________________________________________ Original Stats from LL/CD/Poverty: Diet: LL then CD now poverty Height: 5' 10" Start Date: September 2007 Start Weight: 294lb End Weight: 204lb (dropped to 198lb by June 2010) Goal Weight: 175lb Start BMI: 42.2 End BMI: 29.3 Goal BMI: 25.1 Total Weight Loss: 90lb % Lost 30.61% _____________________ Diet early '11 Start Date: 27 March 2011 Start Weight: 293lb .... didn't get far at all! In fact, I increased ![]() __________________ Diet before Christmas '11 Start Date - 21 Nov Start Weight - 300lb End Weight - 284.4lb |
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| Yes. You can. ![]() Blonde Logic's Profile Albums Blonde Logic's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th November, 2007
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Rep Power: 10 ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Lighter Life | Silly , but when I did a mad week on my exercise bike I only lost 3lb, when I went back to 10 minutes in the morning I lost 6lb. Is this the same thing or is it too late and I should goto bed now. |
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: LighterLife | Thanks for the info, Monkey. Definitely worth a sticky. Pacing yourself sounds like good advice. If you've not been active for a long time, have been unwell, or if you still have a lot to lose, then it wouldn't be wise to start full-on with intense exercise while on the foodpacks. Just build up gradually with things like walking or pilates. And as the LL meds say, stop immediately if you feel unwell. Personally, I think the problem is not so much the ketosis (or bodybuilders wouldn't be able to beef up so much without it!) as the low caloric intake. My energy levels suffered at first, but then got better than before I started LL. I've been feeling so full of energy while in ketosis that I feel it a waste not to use it for exercise. For once I'm actually keen to get onto that cross-trainer...
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Rep Power: 37 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: LighterLife | If you want to exercise you could try isometric exercises. A small amount of resistance exercise can build and define muscle very easily with no equipment needed. I recommend the Wii Fit though if you can afford it! Great fun! |
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Rep Power: 0 ![]() | Hi I started LL at the end of October and started jogging in November. In February I ran (jogged!!) a 5k fun run and in March I managed 10k. I started slowly and built up my stamina by jogging 3 times a week and upping the time by 1-2 minutes each time. I never felt ill and lost 5 stone by the end of March. I think if you listen to your body it will tell you if you are overdoing it. I have just returned to LL and have not stopped jogging, once you get the bug it stays with you. Good luck |
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The brain runs on Glucose, and when in ketosis your body is happily converting more than enough fat to glucose for your brain to function perfectly well. In fact many people find that their brain works far far better when the carbs are strictly limited. Remember that for millions of years humans have lived with virtually no catbohydrate being used as a food source. It is only since arable farming started approx 10,000 years ago that we upped our carb levels. This is insignificant in evolutionary terms. Interestingly the introduction of farming also coincided with tooth decay, weaker bones and many other illnesses. In the last 100 years, and more importantly in the last 30 years, refined carbohydrates have become prevalent and for many people, the proteins and fats that their body needs are being replaced ith processed carbohydrates (Cerials, flour, bread, pasta, rice etc, and of course sugars -a very processed carb). These have coincided with the rapidly climbing obesity that we see today. Your brain will be fine - it is easy to survive very well mentally on as low as 20 grammes of carbs per day when you are in ketosis. | |
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Rep Power: 15 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Atkins Height: 5' 11" Start Date: 2-3-2009 Start Weight: 254lb Current Weight: 194lb Goal Weight: 175lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 35.4 Current BMI: 27.1 Goal BMI: 24.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 60lb Weight to Lose: 19lb % Lost 23.62% | Very useful thread, thanks to all |
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Rep Power: 240 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Lighter Life Height: 5' 9" Start Date: 6/9/10 Start Weight: 244lb Current Weight: 185lb Goal Weight: 167lb Goal Date: June 21st BMI Information: Start BMI: 36 Current BMI: 27.3 Goal BMI: 24.7 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 59lb Weight to Lose: 18lb % Lost 24.18% | What about doing moderate weight training? I miss my gym and think that maybe doing some light weights will help me tone. Anyone know if that's ok? |
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Rep Power: 23 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 9" Start Date: 15th June 2011 Start Weight: 355lb Current Weight: 308lb Goal Weight: 210lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 52.4 Current BMI: 45.5 Goal BMI: 31 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 47lb Weight to Lose: 98lb % Lost 13.24% | is there no other way of getting in ketosis other than LL?
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