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**Mini** · 5th June, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bindi

Hi all,
As title says Im finding it extremely difficult on maintenance. Just started my 2nd wk on it today after my wk away last week and my weight gain. Im having 2 bars and low fat meal or a bar and soup and low fat meal. I have no energy and just want to eat all the time. I swore to myself while I was on tfr that I would be very strict on maint but Im hungry all the time. Anyone any advice?

Hi Bindi,

This is a thread from the Lighter Life forum here and you can see they do refeed very similar to Lipotrim.

You will get some good ideas from this thread about the introduction of food and in the forum itself good ideas about maintenance.

http://www.minimins.com/route-manage...about-rtm.html (Curious about RTM...?)

Water is key and if you are not drinking enough regular throughout the day you will feel tired and lethargic.

Love Mini xxx

Bindi · 5th June, 2008

Thanks mini
Will have a look at that site.

Oxally - looked up lipotrim.co.uk and it states 'The maintenance foods are most effective when taken before your regular meal but they are not meal replacements'
I will email them and see....

oxoxallyoxox · 5th June, 2008

If your struggling though hun you might need to have days where you have different meals

For example 1 day replace your brekkie and lunch
Another replace your brekkie and dinner and another replace you dinner and lunch and have a day where you have a little treat

Because if your doing the same thing every day then your gonna get bored, frustrated and cheat.

Otherwise maybe go back to TFR

BTW Where in kildare do you live?

Bindi · 5th June, 2008

Im in leixlip oxally where are you

Bindi · 5th June, 2008

I would love to go back to tfr but have loads on during the summer where I want to eat and drink. I could go back on it after Im come back from wkend away next wkend but could only stay on it for 3 wks then refeed for a wk before I have another event, otherwise it will be sept before I could go back on it when all my social events are over.

oxoxallyoxox · 5th June, 2008

Newbridge.

I emailed them about something else and they never got back to me

It would be better to ring them if you can. They are supposed to only be meal replacements on refeed week - it probably isnt best to be using them as meal replacements for more than 1 meal a day..

**Mini** · 5th June, 2008

There is a little booklet you can get from your Pharmacy called Lipotrim User Information Weight Management.

Below is the first four pages taken from it.

HOW DO LIPOTRIM WEIGHT MANAGMENT FOODS WORK?

They help you reduce food intake.

Doctors and nutritionists recognise that when you eat foods which have a low glycaemic index (ie foods which cause minimal increase in blood sugar levels), the carbohydrates in these foods are absorbed by your body at a slower rate than occurs with foods with a higher glycaemic index.

This slower rate of absorption reduces the rise in your body's blood sugar levels which, in turn, needs a lower insulin response.

A lower insulin response means that your feelings of hunger and food cravings can be reduced. With a reduced desire to eat to excess, you have better control of your eating and therefore your weight.

The high glycaemic index of some popular foods you may eat (such as fruit, bread, cereal or snacks, like chocolate) normally produces a high insulin response but, as is widely recognised, this high glycaemic index can be lowered by the addition of low glycaemic index foods to the meal and thus reduce your subsequent hunger cravings.

So, even though you may have eaten some high glycaemic index foods as part of your meal, the whole meal's effect on the insulin response can be reduced by the inclusion of low glycaemic index foods at the same time.

The Lipotrim weight management foods have been specially formulated so that they provide you with a unique combination of high soluble fibre/low glycaemic index foods to reduce your hunger pangs while providing that full range of nutrients your body needs for a normal, active life.

You will eat less and still be well nourished and better able to control your eating. (See the nutritional composition tables)

WHEN TO USE

Lipotrim weight management foods will have the strongest effect if eaten at the beginning of your normal meal or even a bit before it.

These management foods are themselves quite filling and therefore, in addition to giving you greater control as explained above, they will further reduce your desire for excess feeding if eaten prior to any normal food.

Obviously, it is harder to reduce the amount of normal food you will eat if you have already eaten it!

So, if you eat the management foods at the end of your meal instead of at the beginning, you will have to depend on them reducing your between-meal snacking and reducing the size of your next meal. This will be noticeable, but somewhat less effective.

People with a weight problem can benefit the most if they use the Lipotrim weight management foods at breakfast and at lunchtime. If your particular weight problem is not serious you may even find that one a day is sufficient. Only you know the magnitude of your problem.

COMBINE WITH NORMAL LOW CALORIE/LOW FAT MEALS

The majority of people know bout the need for healthy eating and the need for a low fat lifestyle. Fat is very high in Calories, has little satiety value and is usually stored in the body rather than used for daily energy needs.

Low fat foods, however, are usually foods that are relatively high in carbohydrates - often carbohydrates with a high glycaemic index.

Weight maintenance requires adherence to a low fat/healthy eating lifestyle. The Lipotrim weight management foods help stop you from losing control as a result of eating carbohydrate foods which actually are important in your daily diet.

WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO STICK TO THE PROGRAMME

We are all living in a society where delicious, tempting and highly desirable foods are readily available and in great abundance. The average person, at rest uses little more than one Calorie a minute.

A single biscuit can provide enough energy to power the body for well over an hour. A bar of chocolate, at round 300 Calories, will normally sustain our energy needs for about five hours.

So it's very easy to eat more than your body actually needs and to lose control.

Weight management requires control of your eating over a long period of time. Without help, those of us with a weight problem will usually gain weight again.

Even exercise, good as it is for most people, can only help a certain amount. A mile run uses up about 100 Calories. This may help compensate for an excess biscuit or two, but not for a serious overindulgence.

Sticking to the programmes helps you maintain control. Without control, weight gain is usually inevitable.

CAN LIPOTRIM WEIGHT MANAGEMENT FOODS BE USED TO LOSE WEIGHT?

Yes, they can. The beauty of Lipotrim weight management foods is that they allow you to choose the degree to which you control your weight.

People wanting to maintain their present weight should take Lipotrim weight management foods before their low-Calorie breakfast and lunch, with just a proper, low-fat meal in the evening. If you are seeking to reduce your weight, all you need to do is to follow the above weight maintenance programme for breakfast and lunch, but then add a further Lipotrim weight management formula food at dinner time, which help you seriously restrict the Calories of your dinner meal as well, ideally to below about 100 Calories. When your weight has fallen to your desired level, simply return to the Lipotrim weight maintenance programme schedule.

So in future, even if occasions like Christmas or birthday add the pounds, you know that you can adjust your Lipotrim management programme in this way and remain in control.

DRINKING WATER IS IMPORTANT

The body needs at last 4 pints of water every day. If you are restricting your food intake, you are restricting water, since food is largely made up of water. The less you eat, the more important your fluid intake becomes. Drink at least 4 pints every day.

KEEP IN TOUCH WITH US

We know the programme works. it has worked for many people who have regained control of their weight. We hope these foods will help you too.

Please write and tell us how you get on.

Dr. Stephen Kreitzman Ph.D.,R.Nutr.
Howard Foundation Research Ltd.

Bindi · 5th June, 2008

Thanks mini
I have that information on the leaflet and I specifically asked the chemist if I have the maint prod before my meals and she said no I have it INSTEAD of the meals.
Have emailed lipotrim, waiting on reply. No wonder Im hungry...

xx Cathy xx · 5th June, 2008

So which are we to do then? Listen to chemist or booklet they hand out and tell you to read for more info? Thats what mine did. Told me one thing and gave me another so still confused here. Was going to start tuesday but may be starting tomorrow cos I've been really pale and feeling rough.

Bindi · 6th June, 2008

Im still waiting on reply from lipotrim. It is confusing isnt it? Will post reply from them (if I get one). Ive tried ringing them also, no answer there either.

Bindi · 6th June, 2008

Ok, have just spoken to a very nice lady in lipotrim and she says to keep doing what Im doing ie maint for brekkie and lunch then low fat meal.

xx Cathy xx · 6th June, 2008

Just got back from chemist and they've been on phone to lipotrim today (I asked about whether they were replacement or to be used before). She told me theyre a replacement on the re-feed week and then to be used in addition on the maintenance programme. She also told me you need to follow the re-feed week before going onto maintenance so i'm starting either tonight or tomorrow and then starting maintenance as of tuesday which is my normal WI day.

Bindi · 6th June, 2008

So still conflicting information???

harriet2 · 6th June, 2008

ive had the same problem..the chemist didnt have a clue so told me to ring LT which i did..they said replace two meals with bars and then have low fat dinner..the paperwork says different as youve said already but i have found that you can lose up from 1 to 2lb a day this way which does help you feel better about the couple pounds you may have put on over holidays etc

im doing this at the moment and have lost a couple pounds in as many days

h xxx

harriet2 · 6th June, 2008

one other thing i think might be good to mention is that they do recommend in the paperwork that if you have a bar, you should also make sure you have one of the liquid shakes as well..probably cause its lower in calories...and ive found this does help with quick weight loss

h xx

5th June, 2008	#17 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	Thanks mini Will have a look at that site. Oxally - looked up lipotrim.co.uk and it states 'The maintenance foods are most effective when taken before your regular meal but they are not meal replacements' I will email them and see.... __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

5th June, 2008	#18 (permalink)
oxoxallyoxox Likes to post oxoxallyoxox's Profile Albums oxoxallyoxox's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd April, 2008 Location: Kildare in Ireland Posts: 426 My Mood: Rep Power: 8 Diet: Lipotrim	If your struggling though hun you might need to have days where you have different meals For example 1 day replace your brekkie and lunch Another replace your brekkie and dinner and another replace you dinner and lunch and have a day where you have a little treat Because if your doing the same thing every day then your gonna get bored, frustrated and cheat. Otherwise maybe go back to TFR BTW Where in kildare do you live? __________________ *********** HEIGHT: 5ft 6 START WEIGHT: 11ST 13LB Week 1:-6 11st 7lb Week 2:-1.5 11st 5.5lb Week 3:-4 11st 1lb Week 4:-4 10st 11lb Week 5:-3 10st 8lb Week 6: - 4 10st 4lb Week 7: - 1 10st 3lb Week 8:-1.6 10st 1.4lb Week 9:- Onto refeed. -2lb 9st 13lb Week 10:- maintanance week1 -2b 9st 11lb MY GOALS!! 1. Gain confidence in myself - Nearly there!! Amazing how a little weight loss gives you loads of confidence - I know longer feel fat and lazy - I feel fat but successfully doing something about it!! 2. Lose 1 Stone - 1/5/08, 1 Stone gone + and extra 2 pound!! 3. Gain Confidence in my appearance 4. Lose 2 Stone - 6/6/08 5. Get to target 6. Tone up and become a sexy mama!!

5th June, 2008	#19 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	Im in leixlip oxally where are you __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

5th June, 2008	#20 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	I would love to go back to tfr but have loads on during the summer where I want to eat and drink. I could go back on it after Im come back from wkend away next wkend but could only stay on it for 3 wks then refeed for a wk before I have another event, otherwise it will be sept before I could go back on it when all my social events are over. __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

5th June, 2008	#21 (permalink)
oxoxallyoxox Likes to post oxoxallyoxox's Profile Albums oxoxallyoxox's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd April, 2008 Location: Kildare in Ireland Posts: 426 My Mood: Rep Power: 8 Diet: Lipotrim	Newbridge. I emailed them about something else and they never got back to me It would be better to ring them if you can. They are supposed to only be meal replacements on refeed week - it probably isnt best to be using them as meal replacements for more than 1 meal a day.. __________________ *********** HEIGHT: 5ft 6 START WEIGHT: 11ST 13LB Week 1:-6 11st 7lb Week 2:-1.5 11st 5.5lb Week 3:-4 11st 1lb Week 4:-4 10st 11lb Week 5:-3 10st 8lb Week 6: - 4 10st 4lb Week 7: - 1 10st 3lb Week 8:-1.6 10st 1.4lb Week 9:- Onto refeed. -2lb 9st 13lb Week 10:- maintanance week1 -2b 9st 11lb MY GOALS!! 1. Gain confidence in myself - Nearly there!! Amazing how a little weight loss gives you loads of confidence - I know longer feel fat and lazy - I feel fat but successfully doing something about it!! 2. Lose 1 Stone - 1/5/08, 1 Stone gone + and extra 2 pound!! 3. Gain Confidence in my appearance 4. Lose 2 Stone - 6/6/08 5. Get to target 6. Tone up and become a sexy mama!!

5th June, 2008	#22 (permalink)
Mini MiniMins Admin Mini's Profile Albums Mini's Photo Gallery Join Date: 30th April, 2006 Posts: 18,179 Blog Entries: 5 Rep Power: 100	There is a little booklet you can get from your Pharmacy called Lipotrim User Information Weight Management. Below is the first four pages taken from it. HOW DO LIPOTRIM WEIGHT MANAGMENT FOODS WORK? They help you reduce food intake. Doctors and nutritionists recognise that when you eat foods which have a low glycaemic index (ie foods which cause minimal increase in blood sugar levels), the carbohydrates in these foods are absorbed by your body at a slower rate than occurs with foods with a higher glycaemic index. This slower rate of absorption reduces the rise in your body's blood sugar levels which, in turn, needs a lower insulin response. A lower insulin response means that your feelings of hunger and food cravings can be reduced. With a reduced desire to eat to excess, you have better control of your eating and therefore your weight. The high glycaemic index of some popular foods you may eat (such as fruit, bread, cereal or snacks, like chocolate) normally produces a high insulin response but, as is widely recognised, this high glycaemic index can be lowered by the addition of low glycaemic index foods to the meal and thus reduce your subsequent hunger cravings. So, even though you may have eaten some high glycaemic index foods as part of your meal, the whole meal's effect on the insulin response can be reduced by the inclusion of low glycaemic index foods at the same time. The Lipotrim weight management foods have been specially formulated so that they *provide you with a unique combination of high soluble fibre/low glycaemic index foods to reduce your hunger pangs* while providing that full range of nutrients your body needs for a normal, active life. You will eat less and still be well nourished and better able to control your eating. (See the nutritional composition tables) WHEN TO USE Lipotrim weight management foods will have the strongest effect if eaten at the *beginning* of your normal meal or even a bit before it. These management foods are themselves quite filling and therefore, in addition to giving you greater control as explained above, they will further reduce your desire for excess feeding if eaten prior to any normal food. Obviously, it is harder to reduce the amount of normal food you will eat if you have already eaten it! So, if you eat the management foods at the end of your meal instead of at the beginning, you will have to depend on them reducing your between-meal snacking and reducing the size of your next meal. This will be noticeable, but somewhat less effective. People with a weight problem can benefit the most if they use the Lipotrim weight management foods at *breakfast* and at *lunchtime.* If your particular weight problem is not serious you may even find that one a day is sufficient. Only you know the magnitude of your problem. COMBINE WITH NORMAL LOW CALORIE/LOW FAT MEALS The majority of people know bout the need for healthy eating and the need for a low fat lifestyle. Fat is very high in Calories, has little satiety value and is usually stored in the body rather than used for daily energy needs. Low fat foods, however, are usually foods that are relatively high in carbohydrates - often carbohydrates with a high glycaemic index. Weight maintenance requires adherence to a low fat/healthy eating lifestyle. The Lipotrim weight management foods help stop you from losing control as a result of eating carbohydrate foods which actually are important in your daily diet. WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO STICK TO THE PROGRAMME We are all living in a society where delicious, tempting and highly desirable foods are readily available and in great abundance. The average person, at rest uses little more than one Calorie a minute. A single biscuit can provide enough energy to power the body for well over an hour. A bar of chocolate, at round 300 Calories, will normally sustain our energy needs for about five hours. So it's very easy to eat more than your body actually needs and to lose control. Weight management requires control of your eating over a long period of time. Without help, those of us with a weight problem will usually gain weight again. Even exercise, good as it is for most people, can only help a certain amount. A mile run uses up about 100 Calories. This may help compensate for an excess biscuit or two, but not for a serious overindulgence. Sticking to the programmes helps you *maintain control. Without control, weight gain is usually inevitable. CAN LIPOTRIM WEIGHT MANAGEMENT FOODS BE USED TO LOSE* WEIGHT? Yes, they can. The beauty of Lipotrim weight management foods is that they allow you to choose the degree to which you control your weight. People wanting to maintain their present weight should take Lipotrim weight management foods before their low-Calorie breakfast and lunch, with just a proper, low-fat meal in the evening. If you are seeking to reduce your weight, all you need to do is to follow the above weight maintenance programme for breakfast and lunch, but then add a further Lipotrim weight management formula food at dinner time, which help you seriously restrict the Calories of your dinner meal as well, ideally to below about 100 Calories. When your weight has fallen to your desired level, simply return to the Lipotrim weight maintenance programme schedule. So in future, even if occasions like Christmas or birthday add the pounds, you know that you can adjust your Lipotrim management programme in this way and remain in control. DRINKING WATER IS IMPORTANT The body needs at last 4 pints of water every day. If you are restricting your food intake, you are restricting water, since food is largely made up of water. The less you eat, the more important your fluid intake becomes. Drink at least 4 pints every day. KEEP IN TOUCH WITH US** We know the programme works. it has worked for many people who have regained control of their weight. We hope these foods will help you too. Please write and tell us how you get on. Dr. Stephen Kreitzman Ph.D.,R.Nutr. Howard Foundation Research Ltd. __________________ "If hunger is not the problem, then eating is not the solution".

5th June, 2008	#23 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	Thanks mini I have that information on the leaflet and I specifically asked the chemist if I have the maint prod before my meals and she said no I have it INSTEAD of the meals. Have emailed lipotrim, waiting on reply. No wonder Im hungry... __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

5th June, 2008	#24 (permalink)
xx Cathy xx Gettin into size 12's! xx Cathy xx's Profile Albums xx Cathy xx's Photo Gallery Join Date: 17th March, 2008 Location: South Yorkshire, England Posts: 242 My Mood: Rep Power: 4 Diet: Lipotrim	So which are we to do then? Listen to chemist or booklet they hand out and tell you to read for more info? Thats what mine did. Told me one thing and gave me another so still confused here. Was going to start tuesday but may be starting tomorrow cos I've been really pale and feeling rough. __________________ Starting Weight 14st 7lb Current Weight 11st 10lb

6th June, 2008	#25 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	Im still waiting on reply from lipotrim. It is confusing isnt it? Will post reply from them (if I get one). Ive tried ringing them also, no answer there either. __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

6th June, 2008	#26 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	Ok, have just spoken to a very nice lady in lipotrim and she says to keep doing what Im doing ie maint for brekkie and lunch then low fat meal. __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

6th June, 2008	#27 (permalink)
xx Cathy xx Gettin into size 12's! xx Cathy xx's Profile Albums xx Cathy xx's Photo Gallery Join Date: 17th March, 2008 Location: South Yorkshire, England Posts: 242 My Mood: Rep Power: 4 Diet: Lipotrim	Just got back from chemist and they've been on phone to lipotrim today (I asked about whether they were replacement or to be used before). She told me theyre a replacement on the re-feed week and then to be used in addition on the maintenance programme. She also told me you need to follow the re-feed week before going onto maintenance so i'm starting either tonight or tomorrow and then starting maintenance as of tuesday which is my normal WI day. __________________ Starting Weight 14st 7lb Current Weight 11st 10lb

6th June, 2008	#28 (permalink)
Bindi Likes to post Bindi's Profile Albums Bindi's Photo Gallery Join Date: 1st May, 2008 Location: Kildare Posts: 428 Rep Power: 8	So still conflicting information??? __________________ Off LT/Maintenance completely - Hope to get on the lipotrain again very very soon!!!

6th June, 2008	#29 (permalink)
harriet2 Likes to post harriet2's Profile Albums harriet2's Photo Gallery Join Date: 11th January, 2008 Location: dorset Posts: 528 My Mood: Rep Power: 13 Diet: lipotrim	ive had the same problem..the chemist didnt have a clue so told me to ring LT which i did..they said replace two meals with bars and then have low fat dinner..the paperwork says different as youve said already but i have found that you can lose up from 1 to 2lb a day this way which does help you feel better about the couple pounds you may have put on over holidays etc im doing this at the moment and have lost a couple pounds in as many days h xxx __________________ IMG] [img] weighed in on: 03.01.08 @ 15st 3lb - got to 10st 2 in 19 weeks(5lb under target) (including refeeding) (LIPOTRIM)

6th June, 2008	#30 (permalink)
harriet2 Likes to post harriet2's Profile Albums harriet2's Photo Gallery Join Date: 11th January, 2008 Location: dorset Posts: 528 My Mood: Rep Power: 13 Diet: lipotrim	one other thing i think might be good to mention is that they do recommend in the paperwork that if you have a bar, you should also make sure you have one of the liquid shakes as well..probably cause its lower in calories...and ive found this does help with quick weight loss h xx __________________ IMG] [img] weighed in on: 03.01.08 @ 15st 3lb - got to 10st 2 in 19 weeks(5lb under target) (including refeeding) (LIPOTRIM)

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