jane

This isn't a bonkers reacton to losing weight, nor a boastful swagger.This is a serious observation & I want to know if anyone else has noticed the same thing.
On the other and I may have lost the plot. Either way I'd really like to know other peoples views.

The case for the prosecution:

I'm using M&S as my case study. I know their clothes have alway been generously sized but in my wardrobe I have M&S trousers from 20yrs+ ago, 10+ yrs ago & last week.

1) The 20+ yrs trousers are light cotton jeans type. 2 prs so I know it's not a fluke. Size 14. They will not go over the hips & believe me (for the sake of this post) I've tried. And the legs feel tight even with them only 3/4 of the way up.

2) The 10+ yrs trousers. also 2prs different styles but both lightweight trousers are s18. they fit comfortably around my hips, if anything a little too snug at the waist even though I'm a pear shape not an apple. Also I pr light blue jeans s18. ditto but a little looser hip-wise.

3)the new trousers are s14, & are as follows

i)One pr stretchy denim has had to have waist darts taken in already,but hips just right.

ii)one pr 'jogging trousers' If anything a bit loose on the thigh & I wish I'd got the s12 but my little brain would have exploded at the concept & I can't take em back now as they've got bicycle oil on them.
iii) one pr non-stretch denim. Do up a little tight with a degree of tumy-overhang but nothing that another week or so on CD won't cure.

The inconsistancy in sizing is, to my mind, too great to be just due to 'this seasons style'

My theory is that as the Nation has grown massively & rapidly fatter (& this has really taken off in the last 10-15 yrs) M&S & possibly others have sneaked an extra couple of inches into their garments. If you fool the public that they havent got bigger they're much more likely to comeback & but more of your clothes, & do it at the expense of other shops whose clothes come out smaller . We all know how important the number on the label is to us girlies when we buy clothes.

please Please

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CD Start date 9.1.07 CDss is really quite fun (I think it makes me high..shhh don't tell anyone or it'll be made illegal)... though it can get just a little dull after a while.

Since Aug 07. Maintainer-ish. 'til recently. Currently + many lbs (but minus 5 1/2 stone )
Urgent CD Repairs Started 27.5.08.

wannabeminime

Totally agree Jane. Last time i was the weight i am now was about ten years ago. I used to have to buy 18-20 clothes, i now have a couple of 14s that fit.

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jane

So it's not just me.--what a relief.

Are you talking M&S here or other brands?

This also makes me reconsider my views on the previously unheard of s8, s6 etc. As these probably only equate to the old s10.

Thinking back to dates & weights The only time in my adult life that I have been a s10 was when I came back from Africa dong a brief mission hospital stint. I think I weighed a touch under 8st. not a good look for a middle aged mother.
But if I'm even contemplating s12 trousers even if they are stretchy & I'm either 11 1/2 or 12st depending on weather you go by my scales or my CDC's scales then some thing's definitely going on!

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CD Start date 9.1.07 CDss is really quite fun (I think it makes me high..shhh don't tell anyone or it'll be made illegal)... though it can get just a little dull after a while.

Since Aug 07. Maintainer-ish. 'til recently. Currently + many lbs (but minus 5 1/2 stone )
Urgent CD Repairs Started 27.5.08.

wannabeminime

I think all shops have increased their sizes over the years. Evans are still the biggest though.
I think Per una sizes in M and S are bigger than the usual range, which is what i would usually buy. Some of the more 'grannyish' ranges are tiny and short (shirts, jumpers), which may mean the older generation are smaller!

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Started SW 29/10/08
Week 1- 4lb
Week 2- 2lb
Week 3- 1.5lb
Week 4- 1.5lb

jane

Curiouser & curiouser.

Well I'd always associated 'designer' ranges with skimpy.
But what you've said makes perfect sense.
the older generation would all be off somewhere else if their reliable clothes brand suddenly no longer fitted.
The younger & more trendy,though,need to be hoodwinked into believing they are not fat.

the fact that Evans sizes are generous sort of goes without saying.

how about the likes of Next, DottyP, monsoon etc any info?

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CD Start date 9.1.07 CDss is really quite fun (I think it makes me high..shhh don't tell anyone or it'll be made illegal)... though it can get just a little dull after a while.

Since Aug 07. Maintainer-ish. 'til recently. Currently + many lbs (but minus 5 1/2 stone )
Urgent CD Repairs Started 27.5.08.

wannabeminime

I find Next and Dotty p quite roomy. And this is where i shop! I dont shop in Monsoon, too far away and too expensive!

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Started SW 29/10/08
Week 1- 4lb
Week 2- 2lb
Week 3- 1.5lb
Week 4- 1.5lb

jane

Agree about monsoon.not that they've ever hadanything I can fit into, but the stuff does look nice.
Ah well. I can dream, & there's alway s the charity shops!!!

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CD Start date 9.1.07 CDss is really quite fun (I think it makes me high..shhh don't tell anyone or it'll be made illegal)... though it can get just a little dull after a while.

Since Aug 07. Maintainer-ish. 'til recently. Currently + many lbs (but minus 5 1/2 stone )
Urgent CD Repairs Started 27.5.08.

jane

thought I'd BUMP this ...has no-one else noticd this except me & wanabe.....or are we deluded?

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CD Start date 9.1.07 CDss is really quite fun (I think it makes me high..shhh don't tell anyone or it'll be made illegal)... though it can get just a little dull after a while.

Since Aug 07. Maintainer-ish. 'til recently. Currently + many lbs (but minus 5 1/2 stone )
Urgent CD Repairs Started 27.5.08.

KD

Glad you bumped it. Missed it first time around.

Yep...totally agree. I have some clothes back from the 70's (will get around to sorting my wardrobe some day) The size 16's are still too small, yet 14 fits me comfortably these days.

It's the inches you see. They have grown. It was all part of the decimalisation process in the early 70s. 2 old pence = 1 new pence....1 old inch = 1.5 new inch Or is it the other way around Brain not in gear this morning.

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c2b

Yep I noticed this a while ago.
30 years ago areound the time I got married.....gosh I sound old....I weighed in between 6.5 and 7 stone. I never wore anything lower than a size 12!!!
Last year I started to lose weight and went into Asda to buy some new tee shirts. I was astonished to find I needed a size 14. I was weighing in at 12st 10lbs!!! I was thrilled until I realised the implications.

I do now have a lovely dress or two from Monsoon, both size 12, and I weigh 10 stone. I would just like to point out that they were either from the charity shop or my sister in law so I think even their sizes are larger than they used to be.

I find chain stores tend to be generous in their sizing. Asda, BHS, M&S etc,

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jane

Thanks for adding that.
I was never as light as you but I do remember having a pr of s12 jeans a little loose when I returned from a brief stint working in Africa (& that was 25yrs ago so I'm old too) & weighing barely 8stone.

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CD Start date 9.1.07 CDss is really quite fun (I think it makes me high..shhh don't tell anyone or it'll be made illegal)... though it can get just a little dull after a while.

Since Aug 07. Maintainer-ish. 'til recently. Currently + many lbs (but minus 5 1/2 stone )
Urgent CD Repairs Started 27.5.08.

sonkie

I think so too......I have not been able to get into jeans for ages so when I ordered a pair in a size I knew just wouldnt fit........I was stunned when they did ....lol.

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jane