Is this allowed/fair? - MiniMins.com

JestersTear · 26th November, 2009

Twice, recently, our C has given the slimmer of the week to people who weren't at *our* class the week before.
In one case it was a member of the social team who had been to a different group the previous week and this week it was a lady who attends a later class on the same day with the same C (and had attended our class this week)

This just seemed 'wrong' to me - shouldn't slimmer of the week be for people in the current class who have attended the current class the week before?

Oh, and it's not sour grapes as I wasn't up for the award on either week lol

Ninja · 26th November, 2009

No I don't think so. I think so long as someone has lost or sts the week before, regardless of which group they went to, they should be eligible for SOTW.

Them's the rules

JestersTear · 26th November, 2009

I didn't realise that it was across groups like that. I have attended a different group to my normal one before, lost lots that week, but wasn't given SotW so I'd concluded that it wasn't something that would cross groups

Ninja · 26th November, 2009

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Originally Posted by JestersTear

I didn't realise that it was across groups like that. I have attended a different group to my normal one before, lost lots that week, but wasn't given SotW so I'd concluded that it wasn't something that would cross groups

So long as you stay to group and have lost the week before, you should be eligible.

I know there are women in my group who travel a lot due to work and go to 3 or 4 different groups. If what you say is true they would never be eligible for SOTW.

JestersTear · 27th November, 2009

Like I say, based on my previous experience I'd concluded that it was only within the one group you attended.
So, on the one hand, good for the two ladies recently, but on the other hand, bad for me in the past!

Ninja · 27th November, 2009

Maybe it depends on the group. You know, a bit like the C's and their opinions on cous cous cakes, home made crisps and lasagne tortilla chips....lol.

evilpenguin · 27th November, 2009

I think if someone from the group who attends all the time is eligible for sotw, then they should get it as well as someone who might be from another group but is also sotw, I remember my leader sharing the goody bags between 2 or 3 people if all of them were sotw.

..but I also remember my leader having her favourite members and not awarding the correct people with sotw. My mum used to do the weigh in, and part of that was to let the leader know who was sotw, the total weight loss etc, but the leader didn't always agree with my mum!

Lucky7 · 27th November, 2009

I was joint SOTW this week and STS last week and lost a pound this week!??? Couldn't figure out how that happened at all!

Started chatting to my old RE teacher who I hadn't seen for 22 years and forgot to take my fruit anyway! Doh!!!

jerricebenton · 27th November, 2009

Hmmm but what if you went to a different class on a different day, so therefore WI after 8 days (for example) instead of 7, you would have an unfair advantage? It would only be fair if the classes were on teh same day!

Sticky · 27th November, 2009

Though I know that the rules are set in place, I have to agree with JestersTears.

In my opinion, if you cannot make your own group you've *missed* your chance of winning the awards. Now I know that might sounds harsh, but in our group SOTW gets a large basket of fruit etc that the other members have brought in and we all make a big effort as we're a tight knit group. I think, personally, I'd be gutted for someone from our own group lost out to someone we didn't know/wasn't from our own group. Because, like has been said, what if they've had 8,9 or even 10 days in their week? But then again, on the other hand, if they have only had 6 days in their week...

But yes, I agree. I think at least that the award should be split between a member of that group and a guest if this happens. And to be honest, when I have gotten SOTW I am more excited in the shiny sticker than the *prize*. Sad but true!

But, I think it is really good that people make the effort to go to a WI if they cannot meet their own WI. Not many people would have the guts to walk into a different group (I would be shy to).

What REALLY hacks me off are those who hardly ever stay to group, and only tend to if they think they are in the running for it. One woman at our group does this and she gets up to leave if she realises she's not won it (once she asked during group if someone who'd lost more than her had lost week before and left when she was told yes - GRRRR). Generally though, it's the same faces week in week out - which is good as we all get on really well and are always really happy for each other - no negative competition so to speak.

Just my opinion...whatever the Cs should be consistent in approach to this. xxx

*Cherry On Top* · 27th November, 2009

as a shift worker i have to jump group frequently and would be gutted if this meant i never got a chance at sotw, we're all in it together whatever group we go to.

Laddiesboy · 27th November, 2009

I am also a shift worker, so have to go to different groups sometimes.

Twice I have been at other groups and been the biggest loser but haven't qualified for SOTW as I hadn't been there the previous week.

Personally , I don't see a problem with it though.

It would be harsh for me to invade someone elses group and take away their prize anyway lol.

SOTW is a nice prize if I get it, but ultimately I just want the weight to come off!!

*Cherry On Top* · 27th November, 2009

ah but i would be excited at the sticker, they can keep the wrinkly old fruit lol seriously some of the group ive been to bring the most grim old manky fruit..ick

malaika · 28th November, 2009

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Originally Posted by Laddiesboy

SOTW is a nice prize if I get it, but ultimately I just want the weight to come off!!

Absolutely!! Weight loss is what counts in long term, not stickers, fridge magnets or the fruit!
Winning SOW is great but, for me, it's not half as satisfying as having another weight loss and getting closer to my target.
In our class we still give SOW even if the person does not stay to class. That did not happen in other classes I attended.
What they do at my class, if the SOW is not present, is to make the fruit a second prize for the raffle. He/she still gets the certificate, sticker and fridge magnet the following week.
I do, however, think that it is fairer for a member of the class to get SOW.
We have never had the occasion of a member from another group getting SOW so I can't say whether it happens in our group or not.

paperclip · 29th November, 2009

I have spent most of my time at one group with a brilliant C who followed (and explained!) the SOTW rules brilliantly!

I've now been to two other groups since I've moved for work, and neither of them do it right

I'm a target member, so it doesn't really affect me any more, but I still don't think it's right for everyone else.

My most recent group is now electronic - there doesn't seem to be a way of the C or the social team to input who's stayed, and who's not - so at the end of image therapy, my C goes onto the PDA and it tells her who gets the SOTW - more often than not it goes to someone who hasn't stayed. Grr.

Is this a problem with my C, or with the electronic system?

26th November, 2009	#1 (permalink)
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Ninja Likes to post Ninja's Profile Albums Ninja's Photo Gallery Join Date: 22nd March, 2009 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 973 Thanks: 13 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 31 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 6" Start Date: 16/9/08 Start Weight: 212lb Current Weight: 169lb Goal Weight: 154lb Goal Date: October 2009 BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.2 Current BMI: 27.3 Goal BMI: 24.9 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 43lb Weight to Lose: 15lb % Lost 20.28%	No I don't think so. I think so long as someone has lost or sts the week before, regardless of which group they went to, they should be eligible for SOTW. Them's the rules __________________ x 4 Total loss 2st 13lb, so far = 11st 11lb Mini target - 3st award by Xmas Original starting weight Jan 08 15st 2lb Started Slimming World - 14st 11lb Sept 08 - 4.5lb off Oct 08 - 7lb off Nov 08 - 6lb off Dec 08 - 1lb on Jan 09 - 6lb off Feb 09 - 3lb off Mar 09 - 3lb off April 09 - 3.5lb off May 09 - 4.5lb off June 09 - 2.5lb off July 09 - 4lb off Aug 09 - 3lb on Sept 09 - 2.5 off Oct 09 - 0.5 off Nov 09 - 1.5 off

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JestersTear Cute, but psycho! JestersTear's Profile Albums JestersTear's Photo Gallery Join Date: 29th March, 2009 Location: Hull Posts: 835 Thanks: 46 Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts Rep Power: 89 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 4" Start Date: 12/06/08 Start Weight: 315lb Current Weight: 260lb Goal Weight: 140lb Goal Date: Whenever it happens! BMI Information: Start BMI: 54.1 Current BMI: 44.6 Goal BMI: 24 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 55lb Weight to Lose: 120lb % Lost 17.46%	I didn't realise that it was across groups like that. I have attended a different group to my normal one before, lost lots that week, but wasn't given SotW so I'd concluded that it wasn't something that would cross groups __________________ Current Mini Targets Get into the 21s - DONE Get into the 20s - DONE Get into the 19s - DONE Lose my third stone - DONE Get into the 18s - DONE Lose my fourth stone - DONE!!!! Get into the 17s

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Ninja Likes to post Ninja's Profile Albums Ninja's Photo Gallery Join Date: 22nd March, 2009 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 973 Thanks: 13 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 31 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 6" Start Date: 16/9/08 Start Weight: 212lb Current Weight: 169lb Goal Weight: 154lb Goal Date: October 2009 BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.2 Current BMI: 27.3 Goal BMI: 24.9 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 43lb Weight to Lose: 15lb % Lost 20.28%	Maybe it depends on the group. You know, a bit like the C's and their opinions on cous cous cakes, home made crisps and lasagne tortilla chips....lol. __________________ x 4 Total loss 2st 13lb, so far = 11st 11lb Mini target - 3st award by Xmas Original starting weight Jan 08 15st 2lb Started Slimming World - 14st 11lb Sept 08 - 4.5lb off Oct 08 - 7lb off Nov 08 - 6lb off Dec 08 - 1lb on Jan 09 - 6lb off Feb 09 - 3lb off Mar 09 - 3lb off April 09 - 3.5lb off May 09 - 4.5lb off June 09 - 2.5lb off July 09 - 4lb off Aug 09 - 3lb on Sept 09 - 2.5 off Oct 09 - 0.5 off Nov 09 - 1.5 off

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evilpenguin Not evil at all evilpenguin's Profile Albums evilpenguin's Photo Gallery Join Date: 18th November, 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 162 Blog Entries: 8 Thanks: 19 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts Rep Power: 2 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 7" Start Date: 26 October 09 Start Weight: 307lb Current Weight: 295lb Goal Date: Halfway by Xmas! BMI Information: Start BMI: 48.1 Current BMI: 46.2 Goal BMI: Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 12lb % Lost 3.91%	I think if someone from the group who attends all the time is eligible for sotw, then they should get it as well as someone who might be from another group but is also sotw, I remember my leader sharing the goody bags between 2 or 3 people if all of them were sotw. ..but I also remember my leader having her favourite members and not awarding the correct people with sotw. My mum used to do the weigh in, and part of that was to let the leader know who was sotw, the total weight loss etc, but the leader didn't always agree with my mum! __________________

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Lucky7 Likes to post Lucky7's Profile Albums Lucky7's Photo Gallery Join Date: 13th January, 2009 Location: Cambridge uk Posts: 379 Thanks: 8 Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts Rep Power: 15 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 1" Start Date: 12th January 2009 Start Weight: 133lb Current Weight: 133lb Goal Weight: 123lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 25.1 Current BMI: 25.1 Goal BMI: 23.2 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 0lb Weight to Lose: 10lb % Lost 0%	I was joint SOTW this week and STS last week and lost a pound this week!??? Couldn't figure out how that happened at all! Started chatting to my old RE teacher who I hadn't seen for 22 years and forgot to take my fruit anyway! Doh!!! __________________ The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues. (Elizabeth Taylor)

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Sticky I will succeed!!! Sticky's Profile Albums Sticky's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th May, 2009 Posts: 1,685 Thanks: 310 Thanked 194 Times in 155 Posts Rep Power: 279 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 5" Start Weight: 171lb Current Weight: 145lb Goal Weight: 136lb Goal Date: In time for my wedding! BMI Information: Start BMI: 28.5 Current BMI: 24.1 Goal BMI: 22.6 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 26lb Weight to Lose: 9lb % Lost 15.2%	Though I know that the rules are set in place, I have to agree with JestersTears. In my opinion, if you cannot make your own group you've missed your chance of winning the awards. Now I know that might sounds harsh, but in our group SOTW gets a large basket of fruit etc that the other members have brought in and we all make a big effort as we're a tight knit group. I think, personally, I'd be gutted for someone from our own group lost out to someone we didn't know/wasn't from our own group. Because, like has been said, what if they've had 8,9 or even 10 days in their week? But then again, on the other hand, if they have only had 6 days in their week... But yes, I agree. I think at least that the award should be split between a member of that group and a guest if this happens. And to be honest, when I have gotten SOTW I am more excited in the shiny sticker than the prize. Sad but true! But, I think it is really good that people make the effort to go to a WI if they cannot meet their own WI. Not many people would have the guts to walk into a different group (I would be shy to). What REALLY hacks me off are those who hardly ever stay to group, and only tend to if they think they are in the running for it. One woman at our group does this and she gets up to leave if she realises she's not won it (once she asked during group if someone who'd lost more than her had lost week before and left when she was told yes - GRRRR). Generally though, it's the same faces week in week out - which is good as we all get on really well and are always really happy for each other - no negative competition so to speak. Just my opinion...whatever the Cs should be consistent in approach to this. xxx __________________ Target for February: 5lbs FebruaryWIs: Tues 2nd: + 0.5lbs (no idea why either) Tues 9th: Tues 16th: Tues 23rd: Total weight loss for January: 6lbs http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...81&ref=profile Last edited by Sticky : 27th November, 2009 at 08:40 AM

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Cherry On Top Likes to post Cherry On Top's Profile Albums Cherry On Top's Photo Gallery Join Date: 10th January, 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 251 Thanks: 15 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Rep Power: 9 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 2" Start Date: Nov 09 Start Weight: 167lb Current Weight: 164lb Goal Weight: 133lb Goal Date: Wedding dress fitting :D - May 2010 BMI Information: Start BMI: 30.5 Current BMI: 30 Goal BMI: 24.3 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 3lb Weight to Lose: 31lb % Lost 1.8%	as a shift worker i have to jump group frequently and would be gutted if this meant i never got a chance at sotw, we're all in it together whatever group we go to.

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Laddiesboy I ♥ Slimming World :) Laddiesboy's Profile Albums Laddiesboy's Photo Gallery Join Date: 17th September, 2009 Location: Faversham, Kent Posts: 878 Thanks: 16 Thanked 60 Times in 57 Posts Rep Power: 125 Diet: Slimming World Height: 6' 2" Start Date: Tuesday 15 September 2009 Start Weight: 336lb Current Weight: 273lb Goal Weight: 182lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 43.1 Current BMI: 35 Goal BMI: 23.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 63lb Weight to Lose: 91lb % Lost 18.75%	I am also a shift worker, so have to go to different groups sometimes. Twice I have been at other groups and been the biggest loser but haven't qualified for SOTW as I hadn't been there the previous week. Personally , I don't see a problem with it though. It would be harsh for me to invade someone elses group and take away their prize anyway lol. SOTW is a nice prize if I get it, but ultimately I just want the weight to come off!! __________________ Treat each new day as a gift, that's why it's called the present My weight-loss journey so far: Weigh-in results ... Tuesday 02/02/10 :19st 6½lb - loss of 3½lb January loss : 11lb December loss : 7lb November loss : 14lb October loss : 17lb September loss : 11lb Tuesday 15/09/09 : 24st 0lb (1st WI)

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Cherry On Top Likes to post Cherry On Top's Profile Albums Cherry On Top's Photo Gallery Join Date: 10th January, 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 251 Thanks: 15 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Rep Power: 9 Diet: Slimming World Height: 5' 2" Start Date: Nov 09 Start Weight: 167lb Current Weight: 164lb Goal Weight: 133lb Goal Date: Wedding dress fitting :D - May 2010 BMI Information: Start BMI: 30.5 Current BMI: 30 Goal BMI: 24.3 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 3lb Weight to Lose: 31lb % Lost 1.8%	ah but i would be excited at the sticker, they can keep the wrinkly old fruit lol seriously some of the group ive been to bring the most grim old manky fruit..ick

29th November, 2009	#15 (permalink)
paperclip Likes to post paperclip's Profile Albums paperclip's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd April, 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 849 Thanks: 0 Thanked 46 Times in 41 Posts Rep Power: 63 Diet: Slimming World Extra Easy Height: 5' 5" Start Date: 05/01/2009 Start Weight: 161lb Current Weight: 140lb Goal Weight: 140lb Goal Date: Target reached 24/07/2009 BMI Information: Start BMI: 26.8 Current BMI: 23.3 Goal BMI: 23.3 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 21lb Weight to Lose: 0lb % Lost 13.04%	I have spent most of my time at one group with a brilliant C who followed (and explained!) the SOTW rules brilliantly! I've now been to two other groups since I've moved for work, and neither of them do it right I'm a target member, so it doesn't really affect me any more, but I still don't think it's right for everyone else. My most recent group is now electronic - there doesn't seem to be a way of the C or the social team to input who's stayed, and who's not - so at the end of image therapy, my C goes onto the PDA and it tells her who gets the SOTW - more often than not it goes to someone who hasn't stayed. Grr. Is this a problem with my C, or with the electronic system? __________________ x 7

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