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    Aw sad I missed this but sounds like a complete waste of time. Yea it would be nice if we could all lose weight alone. I don't go to meetings but I do subscribe to the magazine. It's just whatever works for ppl. 5 pound a week is not a waste of money if it inspires you to continue or picks you up when you are down. Certainly better for you than gastric surgery


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    I spotted this programme last night and asked my bf to tape it so haven't watched it properly yet. But the clip I saw was the reporter (I assume) trying to say that the classes were a rip off.

    I don't go to class as I don't feel I would benefit from it and I haven't the money to pay each week - that's my personal choice. But who is she to say that they are a waste of time.

    A lot of people get a lot out of classes as they can talk to other members about why their losses are small, swap recipe ideas and help each other plan for events. It's not only the counsellor that provides support so for people who say counsellors don't care if people lose or gain.....who gives a damn?! Because people wouldn't give up their time and money each week if they weren't getting something out of it!!! And for every 'bad' class there is a good one so if people aren't getting help then they should swap groups.

    SW is a support group and I for one have never seen any SW branded food during my supermarket shop!!! There is no need for branded diet meals when there is so much free food choice. But if some people find it easier to use pre packed meals, I don't see the problem. It's surely better than eating a Big Mac?!

    Can't wait to watch it now lol
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    I recorded this and will find time tomorrow to watch it. I don't go to SW class but I do pay for their online membership and have recently subscribed to the magazine, I will continue to pay for the membership of both even when I have reached target as nothing tastes as good as being slimmer feels :-D
    I've known people who have done both WW and SW, of the people who have done WW, not one of them managed to keep the weight off, whereas the people that have done SW, only a few of them put back on - most of them have kept it off. That's inspiration enough to stick with and support SW :-D

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    Gonna look on 4oD for this sounds interesting


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    I watched this yesterday with my boyfriend and I actually don't think I have anything to add, we said everything that you've just said Gazer.


    I actually laughed when they compared the ice-creams, how can you compare plain vanilla ice-cream with a flavoured ice-cream and expect them to have the same amount of ingredients in them. Also of course other things are added to low fat foods.

    To be fair I'm not surprised though, dispatches is an awful program.
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    I too attend class and for them to say it is a waste of money isn't a true representation of everyone. I think yes some people can go it alone, I myself am not one of those people. I first joined over a year ago and lost almost 2 stone. I then believed I could go it alone at this point I left however without the regular weigh in and support I gained all but 8lbs in 3 months. I need the help and support of the group to keep me on track. So I dont see my 4.95 as a waste of money. It works for me.

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    well heres my take on it

    thanks to my lovely hubby who recorded it for me as i was working and thought id like to watch it hes a sweetie

    oh i loved watching it i previously did ww and yes i lost weight and put it back on as i didnt really learn any new and better eating habits from group other than excercise more and weigh weigh weigh i didnt change much and spent a fortune on ww products because i didnt buy an expensive calculator as i didnt have a great deal of money and the wheel was a nightmare to use

    i didnt find at the group i went to that there was much importance on upping the veg and reducing portions of the higher fat stuff

    and alot of the ww products are just healthier junk food crisps choc sweets ready meals etc etc so dont actually adress the problems that cause weight gain

    also by excercising you get more points ..... oh i know about this one because its partly what caused me an eating disorder i got crazy with excercise and would work off everything i ate i made myself ill

    i was always hungry and not losing a great deal of weight either

    im now on sw and things are very different the only thing i buy at sw is the mag and hi fi bakewell bars (they are amazing)
    i cook from scratch and make healthy balanced meals that arent full of preservatives

    i excercise more

    im never overly hungry or feel deprived

    joining sw last jan was the best thing i ever did

    its changed how i think about food how i cook food and i dont rely on any pre made foods these days i can eat out too and stay on track whilst doing it on ww i struggled with eating out so never did

    im sure for some ww is the bees knees but im a sw girl .... ive seen the light and wouldnt go back if you paid me



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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaFaraday View Post
    She gets ALL of the takings from the night? I don't think so. The more members a consultant has, the larger the percentage of the takings he or she gets to keep, but a lot of it goes to SW. And the margins on sales items are very small.


    Of course consultants are running a business - one could hardly expect them to work for nothing.


    And yes they do care.

    I know a number of consultants, and they are always delighted when their members get to target, even though target members don't pay.

    Update to this post - I now have the figures.

    Up to 25 members attending, the consultant takes away 25% of the takings
    25-50 members attending, the consultant takes away 40% of the takings
    50-70 members attending, the consultant takes away 45% of the takings
    Over 70 members attending, the consultant takes away 50% of the takings (and that is the top rate)

    And out of that the consultant has to pay any expenses, such as petrol, and of course the rent for the venue.

    The consultant gets 10p for every pack of hifi bars sold, and 30p for every magazine sold.

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    class is a waste of money if you weigh and go. the support i get at image therapy is fab so many hints and tips and we have a good laugh too if your only gonna use the scales you may as well just buy a set from argos



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    Quote Originally Posted by cat yoyo greaves View Post
    class is a waste of money if you weigh and go. the support i get at image therapy is fab so many hints and tips and we have a good laugh too if your only gonna use the scales you may as well just buy a set from argos
    I do think that I would still rather weigh & go than buy my own scales though. 1, cos if I had them in the house then I'd be tempted to jump on them every day. 2, cos I need the structure of a weekly weigh in that I am forced to go to.

    So, for me it's not a waste, but I can see how it would be for others. I just wish these stupid tv shows wouldn't generalise
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    yes i think this is the problem. It is horses for courses and what works for you might not work for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty View Post
    yes i think this is the problem. It is horses for courses and what works for you might not work for me!
    Exactly. They are the same with giving up smoking etc. I gave up with an inhalator & patches. Other people go completely cold turkey. Surely as long as we all get to where we want to be it doesn't matter how we do it (as long as its legal & doesn't hurt anyone obviously )

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaFaraday View Post
    Update to this post - I now have the figures.

    Up to 25 members attending, the consultant takes away 25% of the takings
    25-50 members attending, the consultant takes away 40% of the takings
    50-70 members attending, the consultant takes away 45% of the takings
    Over 70 members attending, the consultant takes away 50% of the takings (and that is the top rate)

    And out of that the consultant has to pay any expenses, such as petrol, and of course the rent for the venue.

    The consultant gets 10p for every pack of hifi bars sold, and 30p for every magazine sold.
    And like all sales based businesses there are other bonuses as well. Weight loss, number of people who stay for body image, number of target members who still come to class etc.
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    I watched the first 10 mins or so and was so infuriated by the way it was demonising slimming clubs in general I had to change the channel. I think KingLeds is spot on that people need to decide who the real enemy is - which the companies peddling crap and the advertisers endorsing it IMO, rather than fat people / slimming clubs.

    I was surprised at the small portions of ww crisps compared to Walkers, as we all know you get bog all in a bag of walkers anyway Generally I thought they were not great value, but then Poundland here has an aisle of WW stuff, so clearly it's possible to get branded things cheaper. The ease of the obvious branded packaging helps some members I'm sure, and I think if people choose to spend their money that way fair play to them. Yes people *should* pay more attention and know how to work out what's the best value for money / points / syns whatever, but not everyone will / can. C'est la vie

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazter View Post

    And like all sales based businesses there are other bonuses as well. Weight loss, number of people who stay for body image, number of target members who still come to class etc.
    This is all very true but most consultants don't break even for 6 months at least! The license to run a group is 2000 on its own. If you get 50
    Paying members then you'd get 250 turnover, of which you give at least 55% to SW. Pay for room hire (where I live that's about 80 for 3 hours) plus all the other stuff. You don't actually lake much money without those incentives & bonuses as well.

    Personally I have no clue how anyone does it!
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