Oooooh ooooooh ohh! That sounds good. Actually I think my weekend plans have changed - I think I am now coming to Norfolk to stay with you for the weekend!!
Like you, I am quietly excited about what you can eat on this plan and still seemingly lose weight. I do come back to my theory that its more like how naturally thin people eat - they may have the meal you had but there would probably be other times in the week when they ate very little. I think it will be a real test of this diet that the first couple of weeks i am doing it I have loads on socially including a weekend with my mother so my eating is not going to be very restrained. I think I would have been looking at quite a gain normally.
Are you feeling any better now? Are you back to work tomorrow? I think the fasting is definitely easier for me when I am at work and busy, although it does means I don't have the opportunity to have as many drinks as busy for me equals being out all day doing home visits. I am wondering about getting a flask so I can have herbel tea in the car inbetween!
You would be very welcome Atomic, although I can't take the credit for cooking it this time - only for eating it! Yes I'm very excited about the whole thing, and what has surprised me the most is that I seem to be as excited about the fasting, or Down days as I am about the Up ones! That I most definitely wasn't expecting!
Originally Posted by Atomic pink
I am back in work today.Still not feeling great but a lot better than I was thanks.
My OH wants to do the diet too -more for the health benefits although he would like to lose a few pounds. After reading through the books a bit more I am going for a 24 hour 'down day' from dinner time to dinner time - 7.00pm or 8.00 pm ish. It might change here and there. I was a bit uncertain at first as it seems a bit like cheating but apparently it is acceptable, to have dinner out of the next 24 hour up day. It will make it more likely that he will stick to it,so we'll see how it goes.
Great to hear you're still feeling really positive about it Moonwatcher I will be interested to see how you get on with the 8pm til 8pm, I did think about it myself but wondered whether it would actually be a little harder than the whole day approach. I think there would be the temptation to gradually make it a 23.5 hour fast then a 23 hour fast etc etc. For me anyway. I think I like the absoluteness of the whole day approach but I will definitely consider breakfast til breakfast or lunch til lunch at times when that would be more convenient.
Was it your OH that cooked that fab sounding meal then? Wow. My OH can order a pizza very capably but that is where his culinary talent ends.
I also find myself looking forward to the up days rather than dreading them. I think I really like the feeling of control, which probably isn't that healthy to be honest, but I do kind of get off on controlling something I never thought I would be able to.
So today's down day food is as follows. Commencing from 8.00 pm Sunday night, until 8.00 tonight.
Before bed last night - water and diet drinks only
Breakfast - 3oz greek yogurt with 2 tspns maple syrup (147cals)
Lunch - one tin weight watchers tomato soup with two slices small seeded loaf (246cals)
Snack - one celebrations chocolate (maybe not the best choice, but it was so delicious and I don't seem to have issues with it setting off hunger pangs, which I know some people do) (45cals)
Drinks - loads of water, one black coffee, green teas with vanilla, rose garden teas - two with a splash of milk in each (calling it 15 cals each - 30cals)
Total for the 24 hour period = 468 cals. Water and green tea now until dinner at 8.00 pm, which will be from my up day's calories.
Yes I'm giving it a try. I think the OH will fare better that way as he likes his food so much and this way he only has to make his 500 cals last until the evening meal. He never eats breakfast anyway, so it will be 500cals for his lunch, fruit and drinks,which should be quite do-able for him. I'm not one of these saintly people who will cook two lots of meals, so he gets what I get!
Originally Posted by Atomic pink
OH didn't cook the pasta etc no,although he's not a bad cook when he puts his mind to it. It was at a small pizza/pasta place by the beach at Cromer. Tables in the big windows, overlooking the sea and the pier, literally on the edge of the promenade. We haven't been there in the summer yet, but we are planning to (most definitely on an up day!)
Oh my! That place sounds perfect Would be great in the summer by the sounds of it.
I am very much the same - OH gets to fend for himself (which is a traumatic, messy and usually unhealthy business) or he gets what I am cooking. There is no cooking two meals in this household, unless one is reheating leftovers from a previous day. I did ask my OH if he was interested in trying the fasting but he said he was more happy just to eat the up day meals :/ But to be fair he isn't overweight in the least, doesn't drink at all and is really healthy so I guess i can see there isn't really an incentive for him.
Had jacket potato, baked beans, sausages and low fat mayo on Monday evening after the end of the 24 hours.
Today's food choices have a touch of irony to them. It seems the 'self regulating' aspect of this diet came into play, as although I could have 'anything,' I really fancied jacket spud with tuna, onion and salad cream and a mixed salad for lunch! I did make my dressing with olive oil and sesame seeds, and have as much salad cream as I wanted - but still a pretty healthy choice. This evening I only fancied 2 boiled eggs and dippy buttered soldiers, followed by fresh melon, pear and stem ginger! I have had a few celebration chocs, and some cream on my fruit, so that will have put the calories up a bit, plus of course I had plenty of calories at the weekend, so I'm not worried that the calories will be too low. In fact I'm still wondering if my weekend meals out may have been too high in calories. Having said that, Sunday' s food was a roast pork dinner - no pudding, and a cream doughnut later, but nothing else. I haven't counted calories over my up days and I'm trying really hard to relax and trust in it working. Down day tomorrow. I'm still not completely sure about the evening to evening 24 hour fast as I wonder if it will push my total weekly calories up too far...
Food for 8pm Tuesday to 8pm Wednesday 24 hour down day.
One slice of warburton seeded bread - 400g loaf with two tspns butter and two of orange marmalade (185 cals)
One weight watchers tomato soup with two more slices bread (248 cals)
One tbspn cream in a cup of coffee (70 cals)
Total 503 cals
... and just had a small bowl of pasta with toms, salami, veg, cheese and chilli sauce, a couple of mini sausage rolls. Just about to round off the evening with some fruit.
Food sounds good Sounds like things are clicking in terms of food choices. I do wonder whether splitting the fast between two days might actually encourage better food choices rather than the mentality of "diet days" and "non-diet days". I will be interested to see how it works when I try it next week anyway.
Yes I am finding it really interesting - I have things like chocs and crisps, biscuits and cheeses in the house, and if I fancy them on an up day then I have some, but don't feel the need to go mad. It is a completely different feeling to when I was on WW, which was more of a feeling of really wanting to eat more and more, but using will power to resist. I genuinely do not want more. Today was an up day, and at break I walked past the canteen and thought about getting a snack, but simply didn't want anything. I find it quite amazing! Of course the question is will I lose any weight at WI on Saturday? A sneaky scales peek today shows me up a pound and a half, but from reading a few diaries it seems that I may be able to expect a whoosh of weight loss right at the end of the week. I certainly hope so! Food today for an up day today was a pecan maple danish with a cup of tea for breakfast, cheese and pickle sandwich, cherry toms and a small pack of crispy fries for lunch with another pasta dish with cheese, veg and chorizo this evening, one orange and five celebrations chocs with a coffee and cream.
Originally Posted by Atomic pink
Well it is weigh in tomorrow and I have a strong feeling I will have gained.
I'm not sure if the split days are the best way to go for me - I feel I am then eating too much when I break the fast in the evening, and this is bumping up my cals for my up days. There is a lot about the diet that I really do like though- especially how it is changing my attitude to food.
10th February, 2013 #1183
How did weigh in go? Hope you got the result that you wanted but even if not it might be worth trialling it over a longer period. Very few people get losses every week and this is quite a new way for eating for lots of us so it might take some time for our bodies to adjust to it. In the long term (if we can manage it for the long term) I do think the chances it makes to the way to feel and behave around food would have significant results on weight just by themselves, but that's very much the long term perspective and I emphatise with sometimes being a bit inpatient, especially if you've been dieting over a long period already.
This is my first split day fast today. Had breakfast this morning at my mum's and am fasting from 10am - 10am. We shall see how that goes.
10th February, 2013 #1184
Hi Atomic, hope you enjoyed your weekend away. Well I gained back the one and a half pounds I lost last week. I wasn't surprised as I had been monitoring the scales during the week. I am sticking with the fasting diet though, although I am going back to the whole day arrangement. I think that it was too easy to eat too much on my UP days the other way. I could work on restricting my cals those evenings, and also being careful the following day until I started another Down day again, but to do that, realistically, I would need to limit the evening meal to 500 cals and then 1500 cals the next day.Now that is doable, but then I would effectively be counting cals at a dieting level every day, which rather goes against the spirit of the diet and for me anyway, sort of negates the whole point of doing it.
Last week was not a typical week for me - rather a lot of BIG eating out and takeaways. Also I sometimes gain now and again on ANY diet - it seems to be one of the things I have to accept. The OH and I watched the BBC Horizon programme about alternate fasting this afternoon and the health implications are phenomenal. I'm pretty hopeful that another week will see some positive scale movement.
11th February, 2013 #1185
Food for Monday 11th February was...
One tin WW Tomato soup (76 cals)
Half a carton of Tescos Bean, corn, veg and chipotle soup with 4 garlic dough balls (378 cals) (Yum-yum!)
Drinks - one cup Earl Grey tea, one cup of Twinings Rose Garden tea, one cup of coffee - splash of milk in each (45 cals), water, NAS squash, one cup of Twinings Lemon and Ginger tea, more water...
Total calories 499 (any ideas what I can spend that last calorie on? )
Couple of sessions of hunger pangs today, but then I had had no breakfast as I decided to keep more calories for the evening. Love how those hunger pangs make me feel a bit smug!
Went shopping to Tescos after work - bought a mixture of cakes for work tomorrow (late Birthday cakes!), plus a white chocolate sponge for us at home. We've decided to stay in on Valentine's night, so for a change we got one of their Finest Meal Deals, so neither us of have to think about cooking. Looking forward to lamb shanks in garlic herby tomato sauce with roasted veg, potato and gruyere cakes, followed by belgian chocolate hearts and a couple of glasses of Prosecco, maybe a couple of chocolate mints to follow. It's pancake day tomorrow, so looking forward to that too. Think it was extremely good planning for my UP days to fall on Valentine's Day and Pancake Day!
I so, so hope this works long term. I love how I can see some food I really fancy, and... just... buy it, knowing I CAN eat it in a day or so! Even though I've been very impressed with Weight Watchers Propoints, that freedom with food was never there - I was always thinking about points and how I could fit it in, or deciding that I couldn't fit it in!
Debating whether I ought to start a diary in the JUDDD section, or if it's a bit too soon to do that...
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