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| Regular Member deem's Profile Albums deem's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd April, 2007 Location: Ireland
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: WW Height: 5' 5" Start Date: 10 Oct 2011 Start Weight: 209lb Current Weight: 205lb Goal Weight: 149lb Goal Date: June 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.8 Current BMI: 34.1 Goal BMI: 24.8 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 4lb Weight to Lose: 56lb % Lost 1.91% | Considering Xenical - one main question Hi all, This is a brilliant site - you cant beat real life people in real life circumstances to give you support, advice and encouragement. Where I'm at right now is that I finally plucked up the nerve to talk to my GP about weightloss meds and, after a chat and lots of questions, she recommends Xenical over Reductil. I was a bit surprised cos I had heard all about the "squeaky bum" side effects, but her reasoning is that provided you follow the rules, it teachs you to eat properly...unlike Reductil where your appetite comes back once you stop taking them....hence the weight returns.She sent me off with instructions to get out for a 30 minute walk every day and I have to go back to her in the next few weeks to get the Merina coil in and at that point I've to have decided fully if the Xenical is the one for me. Now - having read loads and loads of your diaries and posts the one thing that keeps coming into my mind is that with Xenical I need to track what I'm eating... some it seems do this to the minutest detail and others simply track fat grams, each to their own and from what I've read both seem to work well. I'm betwixt and between tbh.... if I'm going to track everything then maybe I'd be just as well off doing that along and leaving the Xenical out of the equation altogether. What I suppose it comes down to is this - is the difference between purely tracking and planning and then tracking, planning and taking Xenical worth it....... will the addition of the Xenical speed up the rate of weight loss? My head tells me that by being on Xenical I wont cheat....well you cant really can you and this is usually my downfall - I do great for a few days and then blow it all and then dont get back on the wagon until I've regained what I'd lost and more...Also - anyone in Ireland???? What does it cost here? Do you have to go to the doc each month or is that a personal preference of some doctors? I'm a bit strapped for cash at the moment so this all makes a difference. ![]() Thanks in advance for your advice, please let me know what you think. Thanks, D
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| Likes to post ninajw83's Profile Albums ninajw83's Photo Gallery Join Date: 15th June, 2009 Location: Wigan, England
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: Xenical and low fat diet Height: 5' 8" Start Date: 16/06/09 Start Weight: 271lb Current Weight: 252lb Goal Weight: 185lb Goal Date: 2011 BMI Information: Start BMI: 41.2 Current BMI: 38.3 Goal BMI: 28.1 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 19lb Weight to Lose: 67lb % Lost 7.01% | Hiya Deem and welcome to mini's. Whatever you decide it sounds like you're in that place to lose weight but i know exactly what you mean about lasting a few days/weeks then falling off the wagon. I dont really track fat or kcals consciously but when we go shopping I always buy food thats low in fat and this is 9/10 low in kcals too so i just stick to my 3 meals, breakfast is usually between 2 and 5 gms of fat then lunch only about 4 but tea can vary depending on whether i'm at work or not. Also you can cheat on xenical and i hold my hands up to that, have been pratting about with it for the last 3 weeks and have only had a 3lb weight loss to show for it whereas the previous month i lost 1 stone. The exercise thing is also a biggy, since ive reduced the exercise i've wanted to snack more, felt more lethargic and well as i said the weight loss has slowed too. There's also different trains of thought on the xenical vs just healthy diet, i've been dieting since i was 9 as ive always been obese except for when i went major skinny aged 16-18, the only time ive lost a considerable amount of weight in my adult life was on a meal replacement diet, all the other ones my weightloss halted after about 10lbs now since taking xenical i've lost 17lbs in 2 months and i can actually see the results. At the end of the day it's up to you what you choose and as long as it results in you feeling good about yourself and being healthy it doesnt really matter xx |
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| I ♥ the gym :D alibalibee's Profile Albums alibalibee's Photo Gallery Tournaments Won: 4 Join Date: 17th June, 2008 Location: Glasgow
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Rep Power: 1298 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: CC Height: 5' 5" Start Date: 21/04/07 Start Weight: 298lb Current Weight: 175lb Goal Weight: 154lb BMI Information: Start BMI: 49.6 Current BMI: 29.1 Goal BMI: 25.6 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 123lb Weight to Lose: 21lb % Lost 41.28% | Hi deem and welcome to Minis and to the Xenical forum ![]() Ok, for me personally, Xenical keeps me on the straight and narrow, its also allowed me to *step back* as it were, and look at the reasons for my binge eating/emotional eating. I keep a food diary, and have done for 2 years now. I track fat grammes and calories. I keep a track on these for 2 reasons. 1. To plan ( and stick to) food for that day, and 2. if I do have a stayed the same weight week, I can look back at my food diary and see what potentially caused the problem. xx |
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| Likes to post skyegirl's Profile Albums skyegirl's Photo Gallery Join Date: 21st July, 2009 Location: Isle of Skye
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Rep Power: 47 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: xenical low fat Height: 5' 2" Start Date: 17/07/09 Start Weight: 187lb Current Weight: 161lb Goal Weight: 126lb Goal Date: 25/02/2010 my birthday BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.2 Current BMI: 29.4 Goal BMI: 23 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 26lb Weight to Lose: 35lb % Lost 13.9% | I also keep a food diary religiously every day and like Ali I keep a record of fat grams and calories. The xenical keeps me from going over the fat rules, I have dabbled with crisps a few times and on the whole I know I can have a packet everynow and again but I did have a day when I had about 3 packs and although my calories were fine for that day a day later I got the dreaded orange oil in the loo, strangely comforting though to know it does actually work and also that I can't eat 3 packs of crips and get away with it, if I hadn't had kept a food diary I would have forgotten what I had eaten and not know what had caused the problem. So far I am a great fan of xenical, I have no scales so can't weigh at home just when I go to the Drs and am never hungry as I am eating better stuff, but loosing at a pleasing rate. Good luck with whatever you decide. xx
__________________ GOALS : To get below 13 st ![]() ![]() To get to 12st 7lb ![]() ![]() To fit into my size 14 jeans ![]() ![]() To get below 12 st ![]() ![]() To lose 10% of my weight ![]() ![]() Get to 11st Get to 10st 7lb To lose 20% of my weight Get to 10st Get to 9st 7lb Get to 9st GOAL ![]() ![]() No, its not snowing yet but I love this photo of the view from my garden. ![]() ![]() |
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Rep Power: 73 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: All of them! Height: 5' 2" Start Date: 02/06/2008 Start Weight: 202lb Current Weight: 171lb Goal Weight: 138lb Goal Date: ASAP BMI Information: Start BMI: 36.9 Current BMI: 31.3 Goal BMI: 25.2 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 31lb Weight to Lose: 33lb % Lost 15.35% | How many calories do u aim to eat in one day?... question open to all.
__________________ ====================== Targets: ====================== 1] Get in to 12's (New bag) ![]() 2] Get in to 11's (New dress) 3] Get in to 10's (New hair style) 4] Get in to 9's (Will think of something) ====================== Started June 2008 ![]() Start Weight: 14.6 Stone ![]() Current Weight: 12.7 Goal Weight: 9.7 Stone Finished: ...........? ====================== |
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| Regular Member deem's Profile Albums deem's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd April, 2007 Location: Ireland
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: WW Height: 5' 5" Start Date: 10 Oct 2011 Start Weight: 209lb Current Weight: 205lb Goal Weight: 149lb Goal Date: June 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.8 Current BMI: 34.1 Goal BMI: 24.8 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 4lb Weight to Lose: 56lb % Lost 1.91% | Thanks girls for all your replies. I have signed up for 3 months to another website (..dont know if I'm allowed mention it by name here!) and in there I can track all food and exercise. It give you full nutritional information for your food so you can plan your meals etc keeping within certain guidelines...like 5gr fat per 100gr ![]() Well, I was going to go back to WW for about the 4th time this year (they were in between Cambridge, Lipotrim and good old eating) and couldnt face it yet again...I've been going to WW on and off since I was 15years of age. wrt to cals per day - according to this website if I want to lose 1.5lbs per week (not using Xenical) then I need, based on my height, energy requirements etc, to eat 1281 cals per day. Thanks for your help, no doubt I'll be back many times for more!! D
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| gunna be a fatty for ever kae's Profile Albums kae's Photo Gallery Join Date: 5th June, 2009 Location: Sheffield
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Rep Power: 621 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Weight watchers pro points Height: 5' 7" Start Date: 14th may 2009 restart 24.1.12 Start Weight: 238lb Current Weight: 229lb Goal Weight: 196lb Goal Date: 3rd may 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 37.3 Current BMI: 35.9 Goal BMI: 30.7 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 9lb Weight to Lose: 33lb % Lost 3.78% | hello and welcome!! Not much i can add to what the girls have put!! good luck and post away your always welcome to!! luv katie |
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| Really Really likes to post! PiiNK_PuNkStarr x's Profile Albums PiiNK_PuNkStarr x's Photo Gallery Join Date: 12th November, 2008 Location: North wales. UK
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Rep Power: 384 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Low Fat/Exercise Height: 5' 1" Start Date: 9th february 2009 Start Weight: 326lb Current Weight: 122lb Goal Weight: 110lb Goal Date: november 2011 BMI Information: Start BMI: 61.6 Current BMI: 23 Goal BMI: 20.8 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 204lb Weight to Lose: 12lb % Lost 62.58% | id say xenical saved my life... nearly 8 stone gone... on xenical & exercise x |
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| Likes to post Soon to be yummy mummy's Profile Albums Soon to be yummy mummy's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th July, 2009 Location: South Wales
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Rep Power: 79 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Restarting Cambridge SS after gaining all my weight back :-( I WILL do it this time! Start Date: Jan 8th 2012 Start Weight: 272lb Current Weight: 255lb Goal Weight: 140lb Goal Date: October 2012 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 17lb Weight to Lose: 115lb % Lost 6.25% | Hi Deem! Welcome aboard and Good luck on the weight loss hun! I personally LOVE xenical, for someone who's prone to binging and starting (and failing!) lots of diets, it REALLY does help keep me on the straight and narrow as I dread the orange oil! Although, as Nina mentioned, it is def possible to "cheat" on Xenical, by not taking your tabs properly.....so its not a miracle pill but it definately helps! You def seem to have your head in the right place (as they say!) for weight loss, and I think you're gonna succeed with or without Xenical! As with lots of the girlies (and guys!) on here, Xenical can't take ALL the credit - it still takes hard work and exercise to get those nasty lbs shifting......look at Nina, Ali, Katie and Piink!! They've been tremendously good and all do lots of exercise and count fat/cals etc....But it DOES make you a hell of a lot more conscious of what you ARE eating - you analyse every morsel that you pop in your mouth (still doesnt mean you wont pop it in tho! lol! you just close your eyes and pray you dont have any nasty toilet troubles then! but you will! lol!). The only thing that concerns me is the AMOUNT of cals you've found out to allow yourself?? Don't know if it's just me, but this seems very low?? I'm shorter than you (around 5ft 3, and only just) and I allow myself between 1400-1500cals per day, very rarely going under 1300cals and sometimes as much as 1600-1700cals if I've been busy and exercising?? And with this I've still lost, on average aronud 3lbs/week? I know Ali is a little bit taller than you (5foot 5) and she has around the same as me per day...more too if she's been exercising, and she's lost LOADES of weight. Don't know what the other girlies think, but 1281cals/day seems quite low, and might make it difficult to stick to? If you allow yourself more to begin with, you'll def still lose weight and then you can always cut down later on when the weight's coming/come off? I DEF wouldn't go BELOW 1200cals a day or the starvation mode thing may kick in?? Didn't want to sound negative, just trying to advise you that you can EAT and lose weight! If I was you, I'd have a chat to your doctor when you go bk for the coil, and for Xenical if you ARE going to get it, and ask them how many calories they would recommend. Good luck! you're gonna do amazingly! xxxx P.s - this site is fab for motivation and will really keep you going! I find keeping a diary on here really helps me stay on the straight and narrow and you can write down your food, cals, fat etc...in that, it's a fab slimming class/diary rolled into one and free! Bargain!
__________________ Love Soon-to-be-yummy-mummy xx Back for my final re-try! ![]() Am not stopping until I get to 10 stone once and for all!! I will get there!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Week 1 - SS CD: -12lbs Week 2 - SS/SS+ -5lbs Week 3 - SS/SS+ -3lbs (TOM) Week 4: my blip week, swapped to cal counting, gained 3lbs water and carb weight and then re-lost it to STS Week 5: found my mind again & bk to CD SS: (yet to weigh!) |
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| Likes to post skyegirl's Profile Albums skyegirl's Photo Gallery Join Date: 21st July, 2009 Location: Isle of Skye
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Rep Power: 47 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: xenical low fat Height: 5' 2" Start Date: 17/07/09 Start Weight: 187lb Current Weight: 161lb Goal Weight: 126lb Goal Date: 25/02/2010 my birthday BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.2 Current BMI: 29.4 Goal BMI: 23 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 26lb Weight to Lose: 35lb % Lost 13.9% | I would have to agree 1281 cals per day is going to be hard going everyday, I tend to allow myself anything up to 1500 per day but if I'm hungry I sometimes go over that, I walk everyday with my dogs and try to keep active when I'm not walking but do no formal exercise. I am 5ft 1in and a fag paper as my dad would say but tend to put that I'm 5ft 2in as it doesn't sound so bad. Remember this is a lifestyle change not a diet, the aim is to change your eating habits for good not lose the weight then go back to the old habits and gain it all again, so eating what your body needs is really important, try to see food as fuel and you need to eat to lose, sounds daft but its true. xx
__________________ GOALS : To get below 13 st ![]() ![]() To get to 12st 7lb ![]() ![]() To fit into my size 14 jeans ![]() ![]() To get below 12 st ![]() ![]() To lose 10% of my weight ![]() ![]() Get to 11st Get to 10st 7lb To lose 20% of my weight Get to 10st Get to 9st 7lb Get to 9st GOAL ![]() ![]() No, its not snowing yet but I love this photo of the view from my garden. ![]() ![]() |
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| Regular Member deem's Profile Albums deem's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd April, 2007 Location: Ireland
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() Diet: WW Height: 5' 5" Start Date: 10 Oct 2011 Start Weight: 209lb Current Weight: 205lb Goal Weight: 149lb Goal Date: June 2012 BMI Information: Start BMI: 34.8 Current BMI: 34.1 Goal BMI: 24.8 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 4lb Weight to Lose: 56lb % Lost 1.91% | Hi again girls (and lads, of course) I still havent bitten the bullet and have of course done nothing but eat and therefore have gained 3lbs But yesterday I joined up in my gym for a Weight Loss Boot Camp , so at the moment I am doing this along with keeping an online food and exercise journal.One question for you all - with Xenical you must (for health & safety reasons ) stick to the 5gr fat per 100gr rule, do you think your weightloss would be the same if you just stuck to this rule and didnt do the Xenical as well? I think I'm steering in this direction tbh.... Denise
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| Go on smile! =) Redkoala's Profile Albums Redkoala's Photo Gallery Join Date: 24th August, 2009 Location: Leeds
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Rep Power: 183 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Xencial, Gym & Healthy Eating! Height: 5' 11" Start Date: 24th August 2009 Start Weight: 273lb Current Weight: 201lb Goal Weight: 182lb Goal Date: Before Punkii lol! BMI Information: Start BMI: 38.1 Current BMI: 28 Goal BMI: 25.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 72lb Weight to Lose: 19lb % Lost 26.37% | Xenical makes your body only absorb 2/3 of the fat you eat, and holds 1/3 in your gut. So yea it helps alot. And the fact of going poo poo on this bus makes you stick to it lol. Goodluck and welcome back!
__________________ "we wern't born fat, its not genes it's greed." Started Xenical 24th August 2009 - [19.5 stones] ![]() ![]() ![]() Follow Me! Check out my journey thread![Mini Goals] ![]() ![]() - Complete Week 1 Complete ![]() - Join a GYM Complete ![]() - Complete One Month Complete ![]() - Loose 1st Complete ![]() - Loose 2st Complete ![]() - Loose 3st Complete ![]() - Loose 4st Complete ![]() - Loose 5st Complete - Loose 6st Incomplete [Goals] ![]() ![]() Get to 18stone Complete ![]() Get to 17stone Complete ![]() Get to 16 stone Complete ![]() Get to 15 stoneComplete ![]() Get to 14 stone Get to 14stone by 22/05/2010 - My Bday! Raise £1000 for Cancer Research ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *check out myfitness food diary! ![]() |
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| Really Really likes to post! PiiNK_PuNkStarr x's Profile Albums PiiNK_PuNkStarr x's Photo Gallery Join Date: 12th November, 2008 Location: North wales. UK
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Rep Power: 384 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Low Fat/Exercise Height: 5' 1" Start Date: 9th february 2009 Start Weight: 326lb Current Weight: 122lb Goal Weight: 110lb Goal Date: november 2011 BMI Information: Start BMI: 61.6 Current BMI: 23 Goal BMI: 20.8 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 204lb Weight to Lose: 12lb % Lost 62.58% | haha love the new sig pic reddd. x |
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| Go on smile! =) Redkoala's Profile Albums Redkoala's Photo Gallery Join Date: 24th August, 2009 Location: Leeds
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Rep Power: 183 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Xencial, Gym & Healthy Eating! Height: 5' 11" Start Date: 24th August 2009 Start Weight: 273lb Current Weight: 201lb Goal Weight: 182lb Goal Date: Before Punkii lol! BMI Information: Start BMI: 38.1 Current BMI: 28 Goal BMI: 25.4 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 72lb Weight to Lose: 19lb % Lost 26.37% | OMG you copi kat! <3 your new pic x We need to stop ruining peoples threads with our conversations lol. Red x
__________________ "we wern't born fat, its not genes it's greed." Started Xenical 24th August 2009 - [19.5 stones] ![]() ![]() ![]() Follow Me! Check out my journey thread![Mini Goals] ![]() ![]() - Complete Week 1 Complete ![]() - Join a GYM Complete ![]() - Complete One Month Complete ![]() - Loose 1st Complete ![]() - Loose 2st Complete ![]() - Loose 3st Complete ![]() - Loose 4st Complete ![]() - Loose 5st Complete - Loose 6st Incomplete [Goals] ![]() ![]() Get to 18stone Complete ![]() Get to 17stone Complete ![]() Get to 16 stone Complete ![]() Get to 15 stoneComplete ![]() Get to 14 stone Get to 14stone by 22/05/2010 - My Bday! Raise £1000 for Cancer Research ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *check out myfitness food diary! ![]() |
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| Really Really likes to post! PiiNK_PuNkStarr x's Profile Albums PiiNK_PuNkStarr x's Photo Gallery Join Date: 12th November, 2008 Location: North wales. UK
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Rep Power: 384 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Diet: Low Fat/Exercise Height: 5' 1" Start Date: 9th february 2009 Start Weight: 326lb Current Weight: 122lb Goal Weight: 110lb Goal Date: november 2011 BMI Information: Start BMI: 61.6 Current BMI: 23 Goal BMI: 20.8 Statistics: Total Weight Loss: 204lb Weight to Lose: 12lb % Lost 62.58% | yeah you better stop =] haha. |
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