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Cheryl, where have you been hiding, we've missed you !!! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

That's a brilliant loss well done you!!!, I weigh in properly on Sunday / Monday now , but I have been having sneaky interim weigh ins and I know I've lost the 9lb I put on during my hols, so anything else is a bonus x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hey Babes, good to have you back , I jumped off the wagon to go on holiday and put on. 9 lb in 8 days, back with the plan since Sunday and already 9.5lb lighter. Feel more motivated than ever didn't enjoy feeling bloated and out if control with food . I know you can do this and we are all here...

That's brilliant, thanks Hun x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I find the restriction easier in a way, it's the psychological and emotional aspect of eating I need to nail, I need to see good as a fuel and not as something that's in my head constantly and dealing with cravings and then punishing myself for failing the diet by over eating more, just need to...

Wow that's brilliant Mel, how are you finding the diet , are you doing it 100% or having the odd high protein meal/snack? I'm going to try to be really good and stick yo it as much as I can I need to get below the 16 stone barrier now, haven't been this close for many yrs xxx Sent from my...

Thanks Mel, how are you getting on with it? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Wayhay!!!!!!, have managed to lose the 9lb gain from holiday since Sunday, and another .5 lb as a wee bonus, so chuffed !!!, onwards and upwards x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hey Nikki, lots if us on here in the same boat, lots of support and laughs if you need them, you can do this the first 3/4 days are the hardest x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Well I managed to persuade the kids to get dresses and come for a pootle down the high street, got some holiday reading from a charity shop ( I bought and read. 3 books last week), thinking of cuddling up with the boys and watching Robin Williams films this afternoon , and I also completed my...

Slap ready and waiting, just try and stay strong for 5 days, it's inly five days you can do it, then go wild on ur holiday xx don't let Mum put the guilts on like you said you have to live ur life xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hope the early start wasn't too horrendous for you, I've been really good today and drunk loads of water too, fingers crossed it's not too long to ketosis. Did you get the estate agent round today?. How are all the others on here getting on so far? X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hi Mel and Mileo, I'm back after my holiday and eating the stupid way I used to, started the shakes again yesterday to try and lose the 9lb I put on during holidays , so I'm re suffering the first few days before ketosis, I have lost 4 lb of it already so that is keeping me motivated to keep...

Hope it goes well, just remember what a good role model you are being for the kids by being the bigger person xxx had the chicken & pancetta salad, it was really nice ( then I let myself down with a tiramisu), but I will be back on the wagon 100% tomorrow Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

It was only 1lb less on the scales this morning so leaving it as a 9lb gain , 2 of those were evident before we even arrived on the island!!, back on track now tho, had the porridge for breakfast with 1tbs of Chia seeds sprinkled on, think I may have soup for lunch, we were supposed to be going...

Had a wee sneaky hop on the scales and it's very bad 9lb, but that us weighing in the evening and I usually in the morning so will weigh tomorrow morning and start again. Fingers crossed for a quick sale on the house, it's a good time of year to sell and move hopefully before Xmas x Sent from...

Oops that's may have been me, sorry admin x back home now girlies have missed you all and the shakes , gotta weigh tomorrow and get myself back in ketosis ASAP , feel all bloated and horrible craving sugary stuff constantly x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hey Hunny, always here for you!!!!, hopefully they are finally getting somewhere with the neurology side of things, fingers crossed for a trapped nerve or something not too bad. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I was on the 600 B4 the holiday started, but I was having the odd high protein snack and meal, I do need to get back on it pronto when I get back, sorta wished I had carried on doing it now, feel like I've wasted time and some of the meals I've eaten out haven't even been that nice x Sent...

I probably shouldn't mention the linguine with scallops, prawns and oak smoked salmon in a lemon and dill sauce with crusty buttered baguette I've just made and eaten sat outside the tent with a very cold Pinot noir. !!! ( or the emergency bag of Maltesers I got for tonight. ) xxx Sent from my...

Hey Guys, missing our natters, the sun is shining, the Stella is ice cold and I haven't had a single think diet unless you count the salad garnish with my lasagne tonight x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Cool cus I'm gonna have Korma for tea , just debating if I should have some basmati rice or just the meat and bit of sauce . Car all packed up now just the clothes n toiletries to do, exciting.... Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

College course finished and submitted, phew now to pack the car, now where did I put that tent? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Apparently only certain diets are approved I believe, because the one we do isn't on the approved list it cannot be named or promoted on here ( think that's right. ). On the plus side only another 7 pages to wade thro and I'm done, Hubby has finished work early and is on his way home so we can...

Haha I talk rubbish and my phone corrects me . The diet that shall remain nameless Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Haha Cheryl I'm still sat here in my PJ's tho, the last load of washing has gone on so if it's not been put out they can't take it now, sure we will forget something we usually do, we have yo be left the house by 9.15 am at the latest as we have a ferry booked and want to allow for roadworks n...

Considering myself slapped and given a good talking too, fourth load if washing on, half way through college work, packing lists written, kids hollered at, coffee milkshake drunk ( Isle of Wight, Mel) and breathe..... Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Awww Mel's dog is soo cute, I'm having a really pants day, managed to slip out of ketosis due to the blip at lunch yesterday, trying yo do 6 mths college work in a morning as hand in is next week whilst on hols. I drank a chai latte and had a bag of crisps ( so stupid didn't really want them at...

Wow that really is cheap !!!, I would one of each lol, have fun planning ur beautification's, I shall be ironing and packing and finishing my college course lol x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Wow that is cheap, go treat urself, have a nice aromatherapy massage too or some reflexology x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

The colleges are a really good idea for treatments especially if you can book a package, my two older boys don't live at home anymore, but the three youngest are good lads are lovely, they squabble at times but it's all good, wouldn't be without them and they do love their Mum xx Sent from my...

Oops yeh, the spa was good, the hour on the hot tub was amazing, so now I'm all preened ready for hols. If you are thinking if going to one see if you can find an Elemis one, very well worth the price for the quality of products and the standard of service, we just had a cheapy ******* deal...

I'm 47, 5ft 2 , have 5 boys, 27,25,12,10 and 7, been with my Hubby ten yrs married for 8, he has brought up my 22 n 10 yr old as his own they don't see the 'sperm donor', I'm a learning disability nurse, qualified last yr with a 1:1, a very mature student lol, I'm a bit mad, very warped sense...

Mel join us on the 'new and confused ' thread, Lisa has only just started and we have a lot to lose too, Cheryl has nearly lost all of her weight so she has lots of experience xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I've been to the. 'Spa ' but then went to a very posh pub for lunch, had Thai fish cakes with sweet chilli sauce n salad, was really good and only had about 8 skinny fries. ( normally would have stuffed the lot and had pudding and alcohol ), back home now and just chilling xxx will be thinking...

You will be fine Mel, just keep hydrated and take paracetamol for any headaches, by day 3-4 you won't be hungry , I had a few hard boiled eggs as snacks to get me thro the first few days and drank cups of bouillon and come on here for lots of support xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I went and found loads of my smaller clothes from the back of the wardrobe, can't wait till it all fits again x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

It was a ******* Hunny, £59 for the two of us and £15 extra for my hair cut, thought it was a bargain xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hour in hot tub, mani, pedi, facial, hair cut and deep conditioning treatment with scalp massage, should just about sort me out for holiday lol xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Nope lucky rota, I have requested to do more weekends if poss during kids hols x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Fantastic weight loss Hunny well done xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Lisa I use Knorr touch of taste liquid stock , they do Beef and chicken flavours, we are having a spa day tomorrow me n Hubster then off on hols for a week on Saturday , camping in Isle of Wight x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Nope Chick, I'm off now for the next 14 days, clever rostering only used up 37.5hrs too x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Sometimes you need a cheeky mid week weigh in, helps keep you motivated if you can see a loss, trouble is it's harder if you have stayed the same or have gained a little fluid xx sleep depravation is the worst!!!! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hey Lisa it's Sharon, you can do this Hun, really surprised how easy it has been, the first few days are the worst, I'm actually quite motivated to keep going ( even on holiday. ), I don't get the sugar dips / cravings I used to. Cheryl thanks for the support it means a lot xxxx Sent from my...

Right Hunny, I need my bed , been up since 5:30am xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Cheryl I got dulcoease ( ducosate) it's a stool softener, not quite go aggressive as the Dulcolax, so gonna give that a go and keep trying to push the fluids x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Yup I am thanks, would like to be losing 4 lb a week as that would keep me really motivated but all losses are a bonus , this week will be harder as Im off work now for 14 days with the kids and we are off on our hols on Saturday xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Gotta do lb's sounds more than kg, I only work in stones and lb's lol xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Lost 2.5lb this week so that's 16.5 lb in. 3 weeks, a little more off the total , but still a looong way to go xxx keep going guys we can do this xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Xxx we are bleedin ace we CAN do this one day at a time, one bad day does not a diet destroy xxX Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hiya Lisa, welcome to the thread, Cheryl what's going on Chick, you can do this, have you caught my virus ?, I weigh in again tomorrow and then start week four already, that will be hard as we are on hols Sat and going to a friends for curry n beer Friday night.... And I shall be suffering with...

Well the dulcolax is working brilliantly ( been about 6 times so far today. ) went out for lunch and was tempted but was good and had a chicken salad. Really hoping for a loss this week or I know what will happen when we go on hols next week, and it will be harder to get back on the wagon if I...

Did a 15 hr shift yest in melting heat, come to conclusion I'm not drinking enough and have become constipated, taking dulcolax to sort that out, just need to poo. 5 lb before Tuesday to keep me motivated before holiday on Saturday xx, how all you guys doing? Xx Sent from my iPhone using...

Not had the best of days, appt with dietician (waste of time ) took boys to McD 's, was very good had grilled chicken salad & water, came home and had a shake , had a couple of chicken thighs no skin for tea and 4 thorn tons chocs ( wanted to eat the box tho) gave the rest to the boys, then had...

OMG!!!!!that is brilliant, wow, you must be thrilled with that very well done Hun xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hey, I'm just into week three of the S&S ( not allowed to say the name ), but having the odd high protein very low carb snack/ meal , I lost 13 lb in the first two weeks but still have a massive 6.5 stone to go ( but any loss is a bonus ) good luck and drink loads of water x Sent from my...

The cottage pie was disgusting, made me heave, so I had a two egg ham omelette instead ... Yummy x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

My cold is back with a vengeance and making me want to eat lots of lovely rubbishy crap, managed to contain it whilst at work today, but now I'm home ...... Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Ours was July 1st, it's a good month to be married xx very hot tho xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Thank goodness it's not MS, I did say I wondered if it was migraines ( Hemiplegic ), try not to get disillusioned you have lots of lovely things to look forward to, could be fibromyalgia always with mentioning but it does sound more neurological x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Think I sent request I'm mummymelling. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Oh I'm on there but I only use it for weight progress recording haven't used anything else apart from the good diaries a few times x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I had a gastric band in 2008, just on week 2 of VCLD x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Just finished a 15 hr day, very hot n sticky, 2 nd weigh in tomorrow morning, fingers crossed cus I need some motivation xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Full of snotty cold today, had four packs and 2 hard boiled eggs , 1" chunk of cheese and some lean ham, sailing close to the wind. !!, back to work tomorrow no time to boredom eat then x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Brilliant news!!!!, well done you have your focus now to stay on track x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Why not do the ceremony for the few with an afternoon tea/picnic and them a big party n BBQ in the evening but get peeps to bring picnic rugs etc ( sorta like the prom in the park ) x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Oh a country meadow vintage type theme sounds idyllic good incentive to stick to it. Sure it will be stunning. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

What beach are you thinking of ? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Everyone loved it, also helped it was the hottest day of the year, just sausages burgers, chicken , steak and ribs with crusty bread and loads of different salads and dome veggie stuff too x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Aww that sounds gorgeous our wedding was very relaxed and although in church we chose our own music and didn't go for the whole hymn religious vibe, got married at hour pm and had afternoon tea followed by BBQ in the evening x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Oh wow, that is fabulous, it's ten yrs since we got together in Oct, but we got wed in 2006, exciting times Hun are you doing the whole dress thing or more for the ceremony Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Just had the Mexican taco one, not bad, certainly not delicious but edible, think I'm going to have to go to other sites for a bit of variety tho I have noticed most of them also seem to sell via EBay x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I think I may do the low carb way after or even do a few weeks after 12 weeks on this one and then go back to it, will see how I get on, just received my next months delivery going to try the muesli too, need se more space to set it all out got sachets all over the place x Sent from my iPhone...

Didn't feel good eating real food, also had a bag of pork scratchings and an Atkins bar, felt so guilty and cross with myself like I had cheated, just reinforces how psychological eating is for me. I like the limitations of this diet and the speed of weight loss ( hopefully.) Sent from my...

It's cool I get the abbreviations , 6lb is not to be sniffed at almost half a stone that's fab, I just had my Friday treat rib eye steak mushroom and onion and a glass of cone zero x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

You could try some high protein snacks if you are struggling, ie hard boiled eggs, chicken, ham etc and ensure that you stay hydrated and try not yo of too much especially in this weather xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Hey All, finished an early shift and finished for this week, roll on the weekend, can't believe I'm still sticking to this diet and not even thinking about real food or feeling hungry, hoping for a good loss on Tuesday to keep me motivated. Cheryl 5 lbs is fab when you have already list do much...

Awww Cher I want a secret too lol xxx, hey chick keep up the good work , so proud of you x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Yay, just got back from work after a7am start and I'm still buzzing, living how much energy I have on this diet , I had a sneaky weight check and it's 12lb since last Tues, hoping for a bit more in the next four day for my 2 nd week weigh in on Tuesday, Cherl don't feel down you are doing sooo...

Acupuncture is fab it's not needles like we use they are really fine like hair, much diner than sub cuts, if it works them it's money very well spent , you may even be able to get it on NHS if you have a sympathetic GP x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Tbh it really dosen't sound like MS, even relapsing remitting type, when it flares it is painful and debilitating, but that dosen't mean that there isn't some thing going on, have you tried acupuncture for symptom relief ? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

When I was younger, early 20's I had bad headaches and similar symptoms I would get paralysis/weakness down one side, my face would droop, eye would run I spent yrs having LP's n tests everytime it happened, did beta blockers, steroids, amytrip etc , they were thinking MS, lupus, ME and it came...

Could be cluster headaches and some if the other symptoms could be stress related , the parathesia could be a reaction to the anti inflammatories Naproxen is something that causes me to get really bad haematuria ( blood in wee ). Vitamin deficiency and anaemia can cause similar symptoms ie...

Deffo sounds neuro, have they ruled out things like Fibromyalgia and Hemiplegic migraine , there are so many neurological conditions have you had any problems with your eyes? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Holy F!!!!, hoping it's not, I'm nursing in disabilities now I have many MS patients, could it be TIA or Hemiplegic Migraine, you need an urgent MRI to eliminate the horrendous stuff it could be trapped nerves, hopefully the consultant will be on the ball xxx here if you need any support xxx...

Hard to know as it varies from person to person , as long as you are able to explain the ketones , will they want fasting blood sugars ?, thought they would have informed you of that before so you starve from night before, they do bloods then give you a glucose drink and recheck ur bloods x...

Good idea I was doing great with it until my consultant told me to stop and. "Eat like a normal person", long story the twat, sent me off feeling awful and so I stopped and ate what I wanted till I'd put on a stone ..., only 4lb to go and it's gone again. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Thanks Starlight, mind I think I need to be careful or I will soon be into the pork scratchings, high protein no carbs but hundreds of calories and totally addictive x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I've lost 10lb in a week!!!!!, but after weeing on the ketostix, I have realised those extra bits of protein I've been having are kicking me out of ketosis, so gonna do the three packets a day for this week and increase my water xxxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I'm only doing it like this cus I have a lot to lose and I'm more likely to stick to it this way, you only have 18lb to lose so maybe the three shakes a day is the quickest way to go, but I thought it was about carb reduction and the VCLD was about less than 800cals/day to send you into ketosis...

I would have thought so, one of the VCLD actually recommends you have 200g daily from the list of allowed veg/salad it's on their website it's called the K££DIET without trying yo recommend anything, just the list of foodstuff you can eat, and I just substituted one of the meal packs for some...

I did the Atkins and went into ketosis on less than 20g of carb a day and unlimited protein and I was eating things like cream in coffee, mayo with salad, cream in scrambled eggs , lots of bacon ham etc etc and mushrooms in garlic butter, I am having a few protein based meals like tinned salmon...

Wow a stone in 2, that's amazing , it should be easy with the shakes won't be able to do porridge as no microwave, do shakes soups and bars, may have a few low carb meals chicken salad etc too, may get some of the K££ Diet shakes as they are made with water , looks like we are going to Padstow...

Yup this is first week, we are off camping to the Isle of Wight in our lovely tent, bit more like glamping not roughing it lol x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

I'm weighing on Tuesdays, so my first one is tomorrow, I'm just having the coffee au lait shake now, it's really nice and quite filling, Hubby got me a spa day as a treat for doing well so got that booked for the 31st of the month before we go on hols on the. 2nd August, I've got lots of weight...

I have seen some sites sell minty film strips that are okay, I'm hoping as long as it's sugar free and not citric acid then it should be okay, I'm iff tomorrow so will do some more research xxx nite Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Doh , just retread ur post Cheryl, one low cal meal when Hubster is about, won't that bring you out of ketosis tho, I have to be spot on or the second I eat something I shouldn't I will psychologically blow the diet, reaffirm I'm a failure then stuff myself silly x Sent from my iPhone using...

How is the shepherds pie low carb with the potato parsnips and flour in it, or have I missed the point???, glad ur feeling better, my mouth tastes a little funky too, think I will be getting some form of breath freshner or mints any good suggestions which ones are best. X Sent from my iPhone...

Phew finished for this week, day off tomorrow!!, still being amazingly good on the diet, how are all you guys doing with yours? X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Work was good thanks always feels a bit odd when I gave only done a 7.5hr day, feels like I've not finished what Zi started. Best get to bed for the killer shift tomorrow x have a good sleep and tackle tomorrow with a renewed head on, you have done so well to lose so much ready you can do this...

Hopefully they will let you exchange them, I must admit I'm not so keen on the bars. , I found the Atkins bars more filling but they are convenient to stick in ur bag to take out, you used to be able to get the shakes in ready made cartons x

I had a cream of veg one, it was powdery but edible, I did put it in a bowl and eat with a spoon to make it last longer. It's okay if ur hungry tho. I tend to have those stock things as a tasty inbetween snack, I imagine you could use a bit of the liquid stock neat to make the savoury things...

It's early days, you will be fine, it's not forever it's a means to an end. I just had a choc n mint shake but with water not sk milk. I have got a cuppa with sweeteners n a dash of sk milk too, figure it's better to go that than risk going totally off the rails. I'm boiling a few eggs to take...

How was the cottage pie?, I'm just chilling watching the soaps and although I'm not actually hungry I'm fancying picking .... Willpower. Com x

Yup will be one week on Tues morn so that will be the recorded weight, going for a nice pamper bath and scrub with my Elemis goodies ( non food rewards ) keep ur chin up the first three days are the worst x

I started Tuesday morning Hun, I have had a few hard boiled eggs and some lean ham on the first two days too, trying to stay carb free with any wee snacks x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

200g courgettes and some steamed haddock, saving a choc n mint shake for later if I get desperate. How you guys all doing? X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins.com

Just finished work and wee'd on my stick and it's gone to the. 2nd pinky colour so it's deffo happening !!!!

Hiya, yup checking with ketostix, haven't felt hungry today and just starting to feel a bit euphoric so hoping Mrs Ketosis will have come to stay by tomorrow, so chuffed about the loss so far, must stop hopping on the scales but a loss is my motivation to be good x

Quickie post before porridge and black coffee, still no ketosis.... But the fairy came again I'm shocked and stunned that she may have stolen as much as 7lb since Tues and it's only Friday!!!!!, holding that thought will keep me going, good luck all xxxx

Hey Hun, it's Sharon!, no ketosis yet , a wee. 3 lb loss since Tuesday and still being good, survived a busy day at work, parents evening and school production , just got in so need to drink some water and get some kip another early shift beckons x

Headache gone, decided against the salad and just had another shake to stop me picking , another bottle of water and I'm ready for bed, earlies tomorrow , here's hoping the fairies visit eh !!! Ps the caramel lol shake tastes like butterscotch angel delight. !!

Luckily I'm only 10-15 mins from work, couldn't face a commute at stupid o'clock in the morn or after I have finished. Hubby had been in London today, train home is late cus some poor soul decided on a permanent solution to their temporary problem x

Sorry no Im way down in Bath, Somerset

Sorry no Im way down in Bath, Somerset

I've got some concentrated stock 'Touch of Taste' by Knorr beef & chicken flavours, hoping a mug of that dipped slowly will take the edge off and the bit of salt in it should help to balance out the minerals etc . I'm lucky I choose not to do nights think that would finish me off, the 15hr...

Yup, couldn't think of another name when the one I had in mind was already in use. The muesli sounds okay, that wasn't in stock when I ordered my stuff and only salted caramel were available. I have ordered the Keediet starter bundle to see what it's like tho I imagine they are all of a muchness x

Just had spag no, that was nice a bit like pot noodle, I've taken paracetamol and drunk another 500ml water, been weeing for England so may have a sneaky weigh tomorrow to hopefully spur me on as it's my first VCLD shift at work x

I had the cottage pie yesterday with 200g of steamed broccoli ( the broccoli was lovely ) the meal was very artificial but edible and sorta filling, it all tastes artificial and powdery really , the shakes are nice but really sweet, the porridge was foul till I put some crushed sweetener in it...

Hi guys, I'm on day 2 of * but awaiting the starter bundle of Keediet as it seems to have more variety, yup have the headache, cold and tired symptoms, not yet in ketosis according to the ketostix , I have been having four packs a day and the 200g veg until I drop a bit of weight

I found that you have to go through pages of threads to get to the latest posts, I started VCLD yesterday x

Hi guys I'm on the 2nd day of *********but I'm adding the 200g of veg/salad and an extra meal for a wee while as I have over 7 stone to get rid of, I'm tired, headachy and cold today and no sign of ketosis yet x

Hi, new to this, have done every diet possible but never got yo target, started VCLD yesterday and thinking some support is the way to go, got a long journey ahead about 7.1/2 stones...