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Thank you for posting this - it's very inspiring for us newbies to see that the losses are achievable!

ha ha indeed - in fact I just went to bed and slept and slept...until 0130 when the first of many trips to the loo started! Mmmm the veg soup was gorgeous, could happily live on that! Day 2 and I've had a toffee/nut/raisin bar which was ok. A bit behind on the water because I've been away...

:D sounds like my middle son...

Yes, I guess there are differing schools of thought, but I figure that VLCDs are so dramatically life-changing that occasionally the real (happy) world has to have a look in. Last year I was on LL over my birthday and didn't relax on the day.... but by the following weekend I was full of...

and, you know what? it's been fine! Had the vanilla shake hot (bearable), then the choc/orange bar which was lovely, and just about to take a veg soup into the bath and then have an early night. A bit headache-y but overall pretty pleased with Day 1 :-)

Good on you for getting back on track! You've done really well, and I'm sure the new scales will bring you luck :-)

Day One. So far I've had 1.5 litres water and 3 cups of mint tea. Still trying to get the courage to open the Exante box!

:0clapper::0clapper::0clapper::0clapper::0clapper: :bliss::bliss::bliss::bliss::superwoman: way to go!!!!

Yes, I think we need to find some funding LOL. Yep, Uni as a mature student , history, up to Ph.D. for my sins :sigh:

That's what I paid for 4 weeks' worth at 50%, so compares well with the other VLCDs. But it is a mixed pack.

My brain hurts, and I don't start till tomorrow! Sorry to hear you've had this problem. I do recall on LL having this - I wasn't working at the time and I think I wondered whether I'd have coped. Is it worth trying to alternate total with another of the "solutions"? Maybe have a small meal on...

I think "they" err on the side of caution - they don't want us adding maple syrup or whatever! but in moderation I think most normal household herbs and spices are probably fine - if it keeps us on plan it's got to be better than us lapsing I guess.:D I don't know what I'll add to my vanilla...

Hmmm, I feel a theory coming on about people who work in "care" not attending to their own needs... nurses, social workers, support workers...(I mean, Miss Demeanour, even solicitors care for others LOL)

How's it going today?

Oooh, well, let me think... To be described as "the clever/witty/professional etc one" instead of "you know, the fat one" To approach garden furniture and motel baths/showers without fearing the consequences of lowering myself onto such flimsy fabric. To not snore loud enough to wake the...

Thanks for all the positive messages. Obsessively tracking my order now, should be here this morning. I could start, but being realistic I know I'm visiting my ex-chef ex-husband Friday/Saturday so I best wait til next week.

I had this and the opposite problem in the early days on LL, it does pass (excuse pun). As Miss Demeanour and Magggie say, the nutrients are probably a shock to the system - in fact, you've probably never "eaten" so healthily. Stick with it, it'll be worth it.

Hi, wow what an interesting bunch we are! I'm about to start as an ISVA, which is an advocate for victims of rape.

Well hello to anyone who remembers me from 2009 LL Jan starters, and hello to all my soon-to-be new friends! I lost 50lbs on LL, but started to slip towards the end of the 12wks and never really got back into it again.:break_diet: Then at the end of August I had a bizarre accident which laid me...

(embarrassed shuffle...gulp) Hi everybody! Remember me? Um er well, I was talking to louale yesterday on fb, having just that day decided to get back in control. Unfortunately a combination of a head injury, depression and good old-fashioned greed means that I'm back to where I started ooh...

Hmmm well slight lapse last night, nothing major major! I will follow CCs advice and not beat myself up over it. On the whole it's going well, and I'm certainly doing more activity than before - kayaking on Sunday!!!

You're doing great Cupcake! And such a sensible attitude too, keep going, you can do it!

Forgot to change this! Daisydoll - wk 18 -2lb off -50lbs total - 8 to go Emveg - W14.5 - 5.5lb off - 58.5lb lost - 0lb to lose!!! Foxtrot - Week 14 - 3lb - ....42.5lb from 56 lb to lose JaneyB- wk5 RTM- 46lbs lost 4lb below target. JazzyB W12 -3lbs off 49lbs lost 0lb to go JessicaL -...

Hi everyone, Wow aren't you all doing and looking fabulous? I've just completed a week back on abstinence and lost 7lbs, so happy with that. Sharon x

WI today - 7lbs off! Hope everyone else is doing well!

LOL were you in the Scouts or Brownies? Be prepared eh? Hope you have a great time!

Hello everyone! I've reached Day 5 without lapsing so feel brave enough to post now LOL. Hope WW, CC and Sonia are doing ok? Great to hear from you and feel I'm not alone. Lovely to hear from Pete, Becky and Susianna too - yes it seems that one lapse is enough to screw up your thinking. I guess...

Well, it has been bad, very bad, but today is a new day. I've been struggling since around week 8 of Foundation, various stresses and poor planning, and by the end of Foundation I was totally off programme. I tried to restart lots of times but then didn't get to group meetings and didn't feel I...

Charity shops are useful too for finding things to wear for a few weeks - donate them back when you're too slim for them!

Yes totally agree, any cheap stick/hand blender will do, mine was from Argos, came with a jug, v cheap and has served me well! Abstinence doesn't have to be horrible! Make the soups/shakes with love for yourself, add any approved condiments/herbs if it helps, serve them in a pretty bowl or mug...

It is hard but it does get easier I promise! Your tastes do change over time (I couldn't possibly have the chicken or mushroom to begin with but grew to like them both more than the choc). Just a word of suggestion - try to stop focussing on f**d, trying to turn the packs into f**d. They are...

Welcome to CaramelCherry - great start! And Kik - way to go! well done for managing your girls' night in so successfully and honestly - and what great friends too!

I think we were told no bars for the first 3 days as they are higher carb and delay ketosis. Personally I can't stand any of the bars but have a spare couple of crispy peanut one for emergencies e.g. days away from home. As time goes on, the "hunger" is more psychological - responses to stress...

Only 1 porridge a day, sorry!

I have decided to wait until Tuesday so I "start" Foundation with the new group. I'm on antibiotics and have the associated tummy problems...ok I may be making excuses, I accept that. I also have guests (my ex husband and family) here for Easter weekend, so it would be awkward (he's a chef!)...

Great pics DD!

Hello all! Hoping you'll let me join you on your journey? This may sound strange, but I finished Foundation yesterday (I was a Jan starter) but tbh I was lapsing on and off for the last few weeks and the last week was a complete emotional disaster. I didn't want to move into Developers while I...

Hi everyone, Too too many posts to catch up on, but wow those losses are looking good! Well I totally blew the last week of Foundation (I missed the previous meeting as my mum was very ill, then my latest beau dumped me so all the usual emotional stuff). So I gained 2lbs, but it could've been...

Hi, thanks T_I and SB, yes, lurking quietly. I'm half and half at the moment, so don't really have anything positive or otherwise to say, but one way or another I am going to continue my LL journey. I've lost 3 stone (into the 15s on my scales) so I'm not going off the rails all together, but...

Daisydoll - wk 10 -5lb off -35lbs total - 18 to go Emveg - W10 - 4lb off - 43lb lost - 12lb to lose. Foxtrot - Week 9 - 1.5lb - ....28.5lb from 56 lb to lose JaneyB-5th Jan -wk9 - +1lb -- 24.5lb -- 17.5lb to go. JazzyB W10 -3lbs off 38lbs lost 4lb to go JessicaL - wk9 - 4.5lb off - 34.5lbs...

The B!tch is back !!!!!!! Hi everyone, Sorry I've been missing in action, had to get my head back on straight after all the self-sabotage. Anyway, I've been more or less on plan all week, and went to my LL meeting tonight for WI - 5.5lbs down!:) So hopefully back in the zone now. I'll try to...

Thanks Emma, I need to think this through but it is just the push I needed after a week of self-sabotage.

The posts quickly add up!!!

Welcome Hellraiser (great name!) Sorry to hear you're still finding it hard Ellie; so far I've managed yesterday and today back on packs, but not back in ketosis yet so STARVING!!! I sometimes add salt to the chicken soup which is a bit bland, but find the others fine as they are. When I was...

Darn thing won't let me rep any of you!!!!! Gold stars all round...and it feels like brekkie time to me!

Yes Ellie, that is it absolutely! I used to have this ongoing debate with my CBT counsellor last year - sometimes there isn't another way of looking at things, sometimes life is c**p! And yes, sometimes it can be healthy and cathartic to cry and let down the defences. Glad your BF is...

STS, which is a positive after 3 days of lapsing (yep, I carried on my self sabotage, but absolutely back on track tomorrow!) Daisydoll - wk 8 -0lb off -27bs total - 26 to go Emveg - W8 - 1lb off - 35lb lost - 24lb to lose. Foxtrot - Week 7 - 3lb - ....26lb from 56 lb to lose JaneyB-5th Jan...

Sorry - belated happy birthday PB!

B****cks...but drawing a line. *F**d talk* Well, after all the birthday success, I lapsed spectacularly yesterday. I went to collect my dog (£2750 bill!!!!) from the hospital and started driving back but got lost and then caught in successive sets of roadwork jams. After 4 hours of stop n start...

Hi! Have I missed you guys or what? Replacemnet pc now installed, just got to catch up on all the happenings. Picking up dog tomorrow - long story which I'll write up in my diary - and had a lovely birthday too. Have a great weekend everyone!

Hi everyone! Borrowing my mum's pc again - still without - so have skimmed through pages of posts! Everyone still seems really positive (well done DD for maintaining that through STS). Very tired today - my big dog is in vet hospital having tests and a major op to restructure her bladder so I'm...

2lbs off for me, might need to revise my Easter goal! Blonde Logic - 5lbs Brumchick-16lbs- 1.5 loss- 9.5lbs to go Catgirl - 21lbs - 4lbs - 17 to go Daisydoll - 20lbs - 4 lbs loss - 16lbs to go DillyDee - 28lbs - 9lb loss - 19lbs to go Emveg - 24lb - 9lb loss - 15lb to go Foxtrot - 20lbs -...

Quick pop-in on borrowed pc -2lbs off for me this week, which means I reached my birthday goal of 35lbs! Daisydoll - wk 7 -4lb off -27bs total - 26 to go Emveg - W6 - 4lb off - 34lb lost - 24lb to lose. Foxtrot - Week 7 - 3lb - ....26lb from 56 lb to lose JaneyB-5th Jan -wk7 -1.5lbs -- 23.5lb...

Hmm I see what you mean...I blame all this nutrition, it's dangerous you know! :D:D:D

PMSL!

Indeed a large lump of feline to lose - well done you!

Hooray, I'm obese!!!!:D Hope you get there tonight T_I :)

All my kids are very skinny (and not because I [used to] eat all the food! LOL) as I was when a child/teenager. But yes, it's a very real and demostrable target. My 16 year old is 96lbs at the moment, but he's on a growth spurt so he'll be more by the time I get there!

Hooray for us! It does somehow make it more achievable than having over a hundred to lose, doesn't it?

I've lost my youngest son!!!!! How brilliant is that? (Swift explanation before mods call child protection team - my 4 year old weighs 33lbs!) When I pick him up it is amazing to realise that that's what I've lost so far! Next big goal - to lose my middle son (age 10, 63lbs!)

Yes, scary stuff eh? :D:D:D

Back from WI - 2.5lbs this week, happy with that as TOTM and no walking last week. SIIM - wk 7 - 2.5lbs - 33.5lbs total -99.5lbs to lose PurpleButterfly - Week 6, 3lb - 27.5lb total. 65lb total to lose Sean(JSF) - wk 7 - 5lbs - 51lbs total 39lbs to lose Foxtrot - Week 6 - 4.5lb - ....23lb...

2.5lbs off for me! Blonde Logic - 5lbs Brumchick-16lbs Catgirl - 21lbs Daisydoll - 20lbs DillyDee - 28lbs - 5lb loss - 23lbs to go Emveg - 24lb - 4lb loss - 20lb to go Foxtrot - 20lbs - 4.5lb loss - 15.5 to go FYM - 21lbs Groovychick -21lbs IslandBreeze 21lbs - wk 1 0lbs Louale -...

Hello everyone! I'm back safe from Bristol (and 5 days without MMs!!!!). I'll fill in the details on my diary tomorrow, but just wanted to say hi and well done everyone on your losses and the amazing attitude. I've missed you all so much!

Same here DillyDee! woohoo a new challenge starts tomorrow!:D

Lovely post Em! Welcome back Jazzy - you did so well! Well done on your much better loss susianna! (and well done WG of course, another goal ticked off!) Thrilled after my WI - 6lbs off! So VDay challenge met, onwards and downwards. Realised when editing my various whatnots on here that I'm...

Great to see this thread revived. In my heart of hearts I know my original weight gain back in my twenties was related to my inability to cope with men after a couple of inappropriate relationships. I was attractive and I decided I'd had enough of male attention so I became dowdy and plump...

Oh Emma, I'm sorry you're finding it so hard, but well done for posting, you know they'll be people with you, encouraging you. Is there anything specific that has triggered it this time? {hugs}

Absolutely right. But OMG those sizes are really scary, no wonder the retailers and the public wouldn't admit to them! (Oh and PMSL at your last two sentences!:8855:)

Just keeping the list on the page LOL - c'mon folks join the ride! Daisydoll - 20lbs Emveg - 24lb Foxtrot - 20lbs FYM - 21lbs Groovychick -21lbs Louale - 21lbs MandyL - 30lbs PB - 28lb SerenityValley - 21lbs to 31lbs (depending on final target) SIIM - 24lbs Susianna - 21lbs...

Ouch poor Catgirl. Get someone to get you some arnica cream - it really helped the bruising and swelling when I did my ankle a few years ago. Amazing progress armour bobby, and I totally agree that it is the all or nothing nature of LL that works for me. And thanks for inspiring us! WI tonight...

You beat me to the idea! I'm in! Daisydoll - 20lbs Emveg - 24lb Foxtrot - 20lbs FYM - 21lbs Groovychick -21lbs Louale - 21lbs MandyL - 30lbs PB - 28lb SerenityValley - 21lbs to 31lbs (depending on final target) SIIM - 24lbs (from Feb 17th) Susianna - 21lbs Westiegirl - 24lbs

Or get alcohol except at a railway station...

Brilliant EmVeg, Foxtrot and Jessica! 3 is the magic number! At this rate you should all be gorgeous by summer!

Nope, we're not cheating at all. And anyway, things happen later in Wales LOL:8855:

:happy096: :happy096: :happy096: :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

Let us know how it goes; keep posting!

Well done Sansukh and PB (love your pic!).

Just wanted to echo this point. Having kidded myself for years by carefully selecting where I shop and what I buy, until last autumn (and there was little weight change, just a brain-shift!) I did not own a single item of clothing bigger than a size 18, and a lot of my tops were 16. But...

Well done for getting back in the LL groove, Pete. Happy Valentine's Day everyone! Not official, but a sneaky peek on my scales says I made my target - I'll confirm at LL WI Monday...

That's an incredible difference Em! You must be thrilled!

Hi Priceys, WG has given you the answer, and we all think she's doing fabulously! (I'm in the same group meetings as her, so I know!) Hope you find a group is starting soon; you know it works so go for it!

Well done Emzski, especially after your hiccup!

Very pleased for you H!

Ooops!:o:p I see what you mean! :8855::8855::8855:

So glad your GP was positive and will support you. Looking forward to hearing more about you over the weeks (and start a diary, on here or elsewhere or even the good old pen and paper variety).

Well done T_I!

Oh Sean. I've only just seen this thread, so sorry {{{HUGS}}} and well done for sticking to plan under such difficult circumstances. This poem by Rudyard Kipling always helps me when I lose a four-legged family member: The Power of the Dog There is sorrow enough in the natural way From men...

Yes, Beck's early work was an alternative approach to psychotherapy for depression etc; there is an assessment tool in mental health based on Beck and errors in thinking. So if you find the CBT part of LL useful, it could well be a helpful book for returning to f***. You might also like Albert...

Maybe more soups, lentil would be good, or French onion. I don't think there should be more types - I don't think I'd learn anything from LL muffins or biscuits! Surely the point is it isn't food, it's a means of getting the basic nutrition to enable us to do LL.

Personally I don't have the bars, but it's not to do with weight loss. I'm using this as time away from food so I can work through my eating issues, so I just have soups, with 350mls water, no sweet shakes and I don't make anything from the packs like crisps or whatever. You can see from the...

Yep, I was apprehensive but the Dr signed the form and the nurse did the BP etc, cost £10. Honestly I think the majority of surgeries are glad that you are coming to them with a potential solution rather than them trying to convince you to lose weight or see their dietician. Well done on taking...

Well done Pete, we knew you were strong enough to do it.

Well done Em, a loss and confronting issues! I agree it is weird when people drop out, and you don't know if it's that week or forever. We've lost a couple of people too. Foxtrot, You're doing brilliantly to do as much as you do so soon after your op. And artisitc endeavours too? I wish I...

Yes, well I have a small confession to make...you remember I said the pedometer didn't work properly on me? Doh! It was in miles mode all the time!:p:D

Well done everyone on your fabulous losses! and yes T_I the inchloss is so motivating! Managed over the 10,000 steps today!

So pleased for you FYM, I know it's been a challenging week for you {hugs}

Thanks Becky, that's really interesting and makes sense too!

Choc and chicken - almost Mexican (but no, I wouldn't fancy the shake for dinner!) Looking very hot, Pete! (swoon)

Hey the list is growing again! Welcome to loconnor! Glad you found us, good luck on your journey.

Ok here goes. All aboard for the new January 09 starters list!:- SIIM - wk 5 - 2.5lbs - 25lbs total -108lbs to lose

Catgirl, congrats on your lost, it's all in the right direction! The CBT side can be painful, but I think it is that and the RTM that'll make the difference to the weight staying off. I try to spend half an hour in the week going over what we did at the meeting, redoing the activities without...

Wow Sean, you're doing so well, you must be chuffed to bits! Yes a few people don't seem to be doing LL now or at least aren't using the Jan starters thread. I don't want to be brutal, but shall we weed out the ones that aren't posting their losses? They can always relist if they want to...

And 2.5lbs for me... Annaphylactic - 15lbs - lost 4lbs so far! Bekimo - 21lbs - Lost 9lbs so far Blonde Logic - 7 lbs -Lost 6.1lbs so far daisydoll - 24lbs - Lost 17lbs so far DillyDee - 21lbs - lost 14lbs so far EmVeg - 21lb - lost 23lb - REACHED TARGET Emzski - 21.5lbs - lost 0lbs so...

Well done Jessica and louale and WG on your losses! And you too, susianna - it is coming off and as WG shows from last time it all averages out in the end to around a stone a month (which couldn't be achieved on any other diet plan). As for me, 2.5lbs this week, so 25lbs in 5 weeks! Louale -...

Spill the beans BL - have you taken over the company yet?

ooh I like it PB. I'm really into vintage stuff too!

eBay?:8855::8855::8855:

I'd give it a couple of weeks to see how you like it/them and they like you...but keeping looking for other opportunities in the meantime.

Hmm I suspect my lack of guilt about not exercising got me where I am today! Or was 5 weeks ago.

Poor Daisy! What a rough time you've had. Make the clumsy f***wit pay for a new blender!

Nor me! Must be the North Wales air LOL :8855::8855::8855:

Well done on a great positive attitude EmVeg - and what a lovely pic!

Poor Pete, but there were mitigating circumstances. Hope you have a good snow-free week ahead.

I know you'll find something more suitable soon BL! And maybe the firm'll take you on themselves with better T&Cs?

Just a quick note - I've revised and reduced my goals in my signature because I think they were maybe too ambitious and I was (see above LOL) setting myself up for disappointment potentially with half a dozen goals. These are more in line with the LL principle of a stone a month, so I wonder...

Dealing with hopes and disappointment. Great attitude Catgirl, brilliant milestone t_i! Foxtrot, you're doing so well overall, and yes it is downwards! WG I know you're here whatever you weigh, you're a founding member and we appreciate your experience. Daisy (and anyone else), I've been...

Bless you EmVeg, that's good to hear!

Great post Andy, amazing journey and only the last leg to go! So proud to have "known" you over the last few weeks, and looking forward to your post in April when you hit target.

Hi Emma, I saw your status on FB, so tracked this down on here, missed it before. So sorry you're stressing about little one not eating but (excuse shouting) IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!! You are worth giving yourself this chance. You have done brilliantly so far. Children of O's age will not...

I think louale is in it for a while too, so we'll still have a little group. Yep, this is it - if I don't succeed with LL there's nothing left to do, and I'll just start sewing floral tents to wear and offering my freakish story to cable tv channels LOL :eek:

Yep I think that's right. Not really sure how it breaks down, but looking at the charges on RTM as you introduce meals and reduce packs it does seem that the £66 is a flat charge for the packs (roughly £2.35 each). Heaven knows what the LLC gets them for because presumably they have to cover...

WH is the expert on coffee pods!

Hip hip hooray! Well done Mandy!

I don't know what to expect from developers, but I am determined to follow LL through to the end, through all the stages. I know my dieting attempts have failed in the past because of adopting my own version of a plan; or worse still, doing a Bridget Jones (you know, breakfast on F plan, lunch...

Hmm, yeah I nearly fell for that a couple of years ago: the salary was £5k higher than my old job but by the time I'd deducted the B/Hs, the week of leave extra in my old job and the difference in mileage paid for travel expenses it wasn't worth it. But keep looking and keep applying while you...

D**n, and I thought I was on a promise!:D He's a smooth talker...:D

No, the thought of lapsing and then trying to get back on track is my new Room 101! It's terrifying when you see people from MMs who seem really focussed then they slip and even with their experience it's a real struggle. Jan starters! Call to arms! We will not lapse!

I know, I feel the difference already but to be normal is unimaginable. I see our starting tickers are about the same, so looks like we'll be keeping each other company through the summer!:)

You're welcome! I've started with Dulco-Ease this week (day 4 today) as I hadn't been for days but they haven't done anything except give me tummy ache - anything else we can use? TMI I know but last time I went it was like hard rabbit droppings...not nice!

:8855::8855::8855::8855::8855: Maybe I could look on eBay for a rack...

Well done Sue, it's coming off! Louale - 5th Jan - Week 4 - 3.5lbs - 21.5lbs Total - 5.05 stones to lose Somewhere - 5th Jan - Week 4 - 4lbs - 22.5lb - 7st 5.5lb left to lose Carl - 5th Jan - Week 0 - 0lb - 3 stone 9 lb to lose Westie - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 3lbs - 13lb total - 4 stone to lose...

Best offer I've had all week...oh, you meant the treadmill?

Only just seen this - well done BL! So pleased you've got a job - maybe not perfect but as you say it'll pay the bills and make you more attractive for other employers if it doesn't work out for you. Love the new photo!

I had vague nausea but nothing too bad. Are you drinking plenty?

Could someone with the exercise bug come and breathe on me please?

That would be great, Sarah, thanks! Got to do something useful with my days!

Well done Rachiie!

Pete is definitely the thinking LL's stud;)methinks!:D Seriously, he puts things over very well, and I'd rep him for that explanation if I could...

Yes I agree that BMI is just maths. Body fat is something else (but your fancy scales and your callipers won't tell you what fat is around your organs and that's the killer!). The one time I had a sports science style assessment I found my muscle mass is pretty high under all the blubber LOL

Wishing you all the best Anna...but don't be a stranger! Oh and sorry about BB (but a bit relieved that I won't have to watch it now!)

Wow indeed Becky!

Pete, I know you're strong and sensible. None of us can help the weather situation and I think you're approaching it very sensibly. I think at your stage in the game I'd go for a compromise: have a shake or two, have a savoury drink if you have it, and make a protein/green veg meal but blend it...

Thanks for the titles skinny!

I'll be here for ages. If I lose 3-4 stones in Foundation, I'll still have 6 stones to lose in Developers. I want to dip a bit below my target before I go to RTM to allow for refuelling glycogen stores and to give me room to experiment with food.

Well done wilbslim and sansukh - look at those totals! Good to see you back Sarah (WG)! Sounds like you've done your exercise for this week - told you to wear flatties! So proud of you for sticking to LL throughout. I'll be abstinent in Developers for weeks and weeks, but only 9 weeks left of...

Yes, get back on track - and look at our Jan starters thread, it's full of very supportive people!

Yes I agree. LL seems to release a lot of emotions AND we can't use f*** as a comfort/crutch like we were. I'm trying hard to apply the CBT and TA to parenting as well as f*** issues - it's proving interesting. Anyone having real toddler problems, ask your health visitor about "The Incredible...

Well done T_I!

Which books? Are they making sense?

You don't think you could be pregnant? :8855::8855::8855::8855::8855:

Stay with the feeling, Emma! {{hugs}}

Hope you're ok EmVeg. It's scary skidding, isn't it? I skidded going downhill on the way to the LL meeting Monday, I deliberately aimed at the verge rather than hitting anything else, but I was pretty shaken. Folks, stay at home if it's bad where you are, don't risk it.

Ooops sorry - well done Jessica!

Wise words from BL and Pete there. Hope today is better for you. None of us Jan starters are experts yet. We'll all have our bad days and trigger moments. And I totally understand you saying that a bath or whatever is simply not the same as F*** or W*** or C******* or whatever your particular...

Absolutely amazing, vintella! Use those tools wisely and pick up a few more in RTM. You're an inspiration!

Well done on another great loss, Sean! That's interesting - I wonder what the experience is of the other LL men?

Well, normally I'm not dentist-phobic, but after today's butchery....:(:cry::eek::eek::eek:

Yeehaw - well done EmVeg!!!!

Exercise band and DVD????? Our LLC is a nurse so she did our BP and will send the forms to our GPs, so that saved me making an appointment. Dentist today...

I'm heavier than you, EmVeg, but sounds like I was similar build until my last pregnancy - I always had a waistline but big bum and thighs. I don't know what happened in the last few years (maybe there simply couldn't be any more fat cells on my bottom half!) but I developed a rounded tummy...

I think I'm the wrong shape for my pedometer! I don't (yet LOL) wear jeans or other hipster trousers, and my (elasticated) skirts still tend to drift up to under my boobs because of my sticky out tum! And so the steps don't seem to register. However, I do walk the dog for about 40 mins a day...

Would it be better psychologically to lower your goal now, rather than "fail"? Only you know what is best. I'm sticking with mine but with 16th Feb WI as I don't think I'll lose 6lbs this week!

Welcome kays04! Don't worry about what you like - whatever gets you there! You might find your taste changes as you go along. Well done T_I, Jazzy and C_C on your losses and another week done! You're all doing brilliantly.

Look at those measurements, Daisydoll! You're losing something! Keep going, some weeks will be less of a loss than others but if you're 100% it's going the right way.

BMI is just simple math, it's no real indication of what's happening inside you. A lot of muscular athletes/sports-people would have a higher BMI but (probably) a low level of internal fat. No doubt more definition from working out would help!

I believe they think there is a link between bigger waists and internal fat (and hence risk of heart problems). So "apple" shapes are advised to reduce their waist measurements to below 94cms (about8ins).

Well done on 4.5lbs gone!

Hi, I see there's a few of us from North Wales on MiniMins now, and some more on the Wirral and Cheshire. Does anyone fancy a meet up in a couple of months' time? If we list those interested and where we are we can agree a suitable place... SIIM - Caernarfon

You know you can do it, Emma. You've got over halfway to your goal. Can you look back at your diary or LL class activities and try to remember how brilliant it felt to lose in the first week, to lose a stone, two stone - I mean WOW! look at what you've achieved! We're all here for you. Keep...

Wow great losses Catgirl and christine (welcome btw). PB you're shrinking!!! Good luck to tonight's WIs

And 4lbs for me! Annaphylactic - 15lbs - lost 3lbs so far! Bekimo - 21lbs - Lost 9lbs so far Blonde Logic - 7 lbs -Lost 6.1lbs so far daisydoll - 24lbs - Lost 15lbs so far DillyDee - 21lbs - lost 14lbs so far EmVeg - 21lb - lost 16lb so far Emzski - 21.5lbs - lost 0lbs so far...

Well done Susianna and louale on your losses. I guess it will slow down a bit now, but what other diet would give us the numbers in that list? I made it to group - only me and Del and another lady there, but the LLC did the session anyway. I lost 4lbs, but the amazing thing was the...

Um well H the trouble is this is rural North Wales, not a metropolis! The next nearest LLC is 50 miles away! Anyway, I've texted my LLC and she says the meeting is on, so off for a slow careful drive now.

Ok thanks guys. I have some CS packs from before Xmas, but they're much higher carb than LL so they'd be a last resort. I'll phone my LLC later (meeting's not until 8pm) to see what's happening.

Funny, I have a rash over my upper chest and odd spots on my tummy, arms and back. Being a hypochondriac I decided it was bubonic plague or something... (PB I don't think you're harping on LOL but you know I'm on soups only.)

Your hair looks lovely, Anna! Funny how so many of us ladies hide behind big hair, isn't it?

Great words of wisdom from everyone. All I have to add is maybe getting "back on track" is too hard. Draw a line and start afresh. This is Day One.

Hi Linn, Welcome! I'm sure you'll find plenty of help and advice here. I'm not sure if there is a Feb starters thread? But feel free to say hi on Jan starters as we're all new-ish to LL too.

Well done for getting back on track, James. I completely understand (very nearly joined you in the (red stuff in a bottle)-drinking on Saturday. Try to work out what specifically crumbled your resolve and work on it.

Sounds a good way to keep warm, Pete!

Not too bad here, but I wondered what we are supposed to do if we (or our LLC) can't hold the meeting because of the weather. What do we do about packs? If there's a day or two and we've run out (e.g., it's my meeting today so I have 3 soups left) what's the best way to handle it? Just have...

Well done Foxtrot, that's brilliant after stopping and starting! Sue P - I do hope that the laxatives help on a (ahem) regular basis; it must've been disheartening for you, but keep (ahem) going. EmVeg - well done for sticking to it despite everything. I'll look at your diary and see if I...

That must be a great feeling! I'm still wearing the same stuff as I was before LL, but I realise they were stretched to the limit then, and I'm noticing that my skirts seem an inch or two longer than before. I'm not trying any of my 'next step down' clothes until I've lost at least 2 stones...

Brilliant! Where in Cheshire are you btw?

No, it's the perfect typo, JazzyB!

Thanks BL. I do know f**d isn't the answer, and so far so good. Trouble is, not many job opps come along that are suitable as I'm not Welsh-speaking plus it has to be school hours and term time. So this is the first possibility for 3 months (and I didn't get the last one either, over-qualified...

Thank for the support. So far I'm still on plan but Saturday evenings are always tough. I think I'll run up a hefty phone bill... Well done on another fabulous loss PB! And in the 14s next week eh? Amazing!

Just a quick post; I didn't get the job I was interviewed for on Thursday. I'm really upset as it was perfect for me (and I thought I fitted the spec and interviewed well), and I'm desperately trying to apply all the CBT and "Adult" ego state I can to stop me going into an emotional eating...

Letter this morning - I didn't get the job. I'm very upset, but trying to stick to LL programme.

I can't smell anything from here...

Aren't they? Hello? Is anybody there?

Yes, I think a WI sticky would be good.

Hello all and thanks for the positive vibes - I think they helped as I really relaxed into the interview and enjoyed it. They seemed to like my presentation (well, they said it was very entertaining). I answered all their questions in detail and apparently they were satisfied with my answers...

Hi welshtigger (and NIC68) - I'm in Caernarfon. There was some talk of a N Wales meet up before Xmas, maybe we should revive the idea? Wishing you well with your weightloss.

We'll be with you every step of the journey. You can do it!

PB, if you're 100% on plan, then it's nothing to fret about. Step away from those scales!

Today I have a job interview at 1pm. It's for a Mental Health Advisor at the university and I would really like to get this one. The job description and person spec. is spot on for me, and the hours are perfect for me with the children (it's really hard to find jobs that are in school hours only...

Welcome Headdown and Jacquie! Don't worry you'll both soon feel like thread veterans!

LOL I'm only too aware of where it used to be after 3 kids!

Well done, James, it is amazing the difference 3 weeks of LL makes isn't it?

Seem to have mislaid my week 3 loss, so adding again. Annaphylactic - 15lbs - lost 2lbs so far! Bekimo - 21lbs - Lost 5lbs so far Blonde Logic - 7 lbs -Lost 6.1lbs so far daisydoll - 24lbs - Lost 12lbs so far DillyDee - 21lbs - lost 7lbs so far EmVeg - 21lb - lost 16lb so far Emzski - 21.5lbs...

Well done on fantastic losses girls. Welcome to the thread, James, great losses!

Hello Del, how's week 4 started for you? Welcome to our fabulous thread! Sharon x

Hi PB, Just to confirm I took all soups last night, so this is my first week without aspartame - I'll see how it goes and report back!

Louale - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 6lbs - 13lbs Total - 5.11 stones to lose Somewhere - 5th Jan - Week 3 - 5lbs - 18.5lb - 7st 9.5lb left to lose Carl - 5th Jan - Week 0 - 0lb - 3 stone 9 lb to lose Westie - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 3lbs - 13lb total - 4 stone to lose Indie - 5th Jan- Week 0 - 0lb - 5...

I love your attitude, Foxtrot!

And well done you louale - excellent loss again!

I don't think I beat you by much! Um, are you missing much? Hmm. Let me think. No, not really. To be fair there is a club (2 mins walk from my house) and more than enough pubs for anyone, but my bedtimes are too early these days to even try a night out! But I'll work on it -...

And 5lbs off for me! Annaphylactic - 15lbs - lost 3lbs so far! Bekimo - 21lbs - Lost 9lbs so far Blonde Logic - 7 lbs -Lost 6.1lbs so far daisydoll - 24lbs - Lost 12lbs so far DillyDee - 21lbs - lost 11lbs so far EmVeg - 21lb - lost 16lb so far Emzski - 21.5lbs - lost 0lbs so far...

Well done on your losses susianna, sukhi and catgirl! And d88n right misswee, you put in every last gram! Don't know where the pot went, we should revive it! Good to hear from you, Foxtrot, you'll soon be back in the swing of it. I'm not sure Caernarfon is ready for us lot, but it's a date...

Sorry for grossing you out, chaps! I did warn you! Thanks for all the replies - I'm not worried but it's good to know it's not just me. Can't say I'll be too thrilled with an extra-long visit from the painters!

Wow really? That much? Caernarfon clubscene (yeah, what scene? LOL) watch out!:D

Ahem. It's the end of week three and my period has started about a week early - is this "normal" for LL? (I know it can affect the cycle but I never thought of it starting early!) Also (and here we do get a bit TMI) my breath has been really revolting the last two days, and the only thing that...

Welcome Carla!:welcome: Thinking of you, GGF and Foxtrot.:hug99::hug99: Another WI tonight - I can't believe it! I'm prepared for a smaller loss - it's the end of week 3 and it's TOTM - but overall it has been an easier week and I'm settled in for the long haul now.

Foxtrot -Wishing you a safe op tomorrow, and hope to see you back in ketosis very soon - you're very brave!

Thin_inside - I agree with everyone else - assumr from now that you will abstain at the wedding, no-one will notice and you'll be looking so good by then you won't care. EmVeg - I don't know about dreams within dreams but I have had a lot of (F word) dreams; thee worst was like yours in that...

I'm with you, PB. I've tried to avoid aspartame for the last couple of years - started when trying to help DS1 who has Asperger's and DS2 who was being asssessed then for ADHD. Currently I have only 1 shake a day, choc for bedtime, but I've been thinking about dropping it for another soup so...

Hormones - don't you just love them? I was going to watch the Julie Walters drama tonight but having come on today I might end up blubbing uncontrollably! It's normal and natural Rachie, don't worry about sharing it if you need to.

Wishing you all the best on LLL, Anna. You've come so far, and maybe this is what you need to finish your journey.

Great thread, louale. I ate because I needed reassurance and comfort because I felt unloved. That turned into 'unlovable' as I became fatter. Unfortunately I'm a very good cook so it became a self-defeating way of proving my worth to others, cooking massive and complicated menus (and eating the...

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and then I forget to do mine properly - doh! Louale - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 13lbs - 7.0 stones to lose Somewhere - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 5lbs - 13.5lb - 8st 0.5lb left to lose Carl - 5th Jan - Week 0 - 0lb - 3 stone 9 lb to lose Westie - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 10lb - 4.5 stone to lose Indie - 5th...

Most welcome! It's not a fancy table, just copy and paste then edit your info.

Louale - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 13lbs - 7.0 stones to lose Somewhere - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 5lbs - 13.5lb - 9 st to lose Carl - 5th Jan - Week 0 - 0lb - 3 stone 9 lb to lose Westie - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 10lb - 4.5 stone to lose Indie - 5th Jan- Week 0 - 0lb - 5 stone to lose Janey B - 5th...

That's cos I forgot it the first time! You sound like me!

I've done mine - shall we each do our own or are you feeling keen EmVeg? :-)

Ok so if everyone has name- week n - loss in wk n - running total loss - goal to lose? Louale - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 13lbs - 7.0 stones to lose Somewhere - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 5lbs - 13.5lb - 9 st to lose Carl - 5th Jan - Week 0 - 0lb - 3 stone 9 lb to lose Westie - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 10lb -...

Me doh too!

Welcome to armour bobby and wilbeslim! EmVeg and JazzyB - glad you're feeling so positive - yes, week 3 has been totally different for me too energy-wise. GGF - so sorry to hear you've been in hospital (and well done to your LLC and GP for monitoring you, could've been very nasty). Do what you...

I saw some peppermint and eucalyptus at Morrisions - I guess that would be ok as both from leaves.

Thinking of you!

Hi, I have adjusted my goal to bring me just into normal BMI - 9 stones to lose, 1 nearly lost already), but if I am still going strong I'd like to lose another stone or so to get me down to about 9 stone.

You have done amazingly well, Andy, not long now until you reach goal.

I hadn't thought of it like that, and I do see your point. I think I panicked a bit because of one bad evening. Thank you for putting it into perspective for me.

Very tentative question! Is anybody else thinking of going who will be bringing children? If I come, I would have to bring my 3 boys (4,10 and 16).

Foxtrot - hope the op goes well, you seem to be managing the prospect of coming out of ketosis really well - it would've been easy to say'oh s*d then' until afterwards. Sue P - 4lbs gone forever! I'm sure the laxative will help shift weight and more LOL. I believe that LL is really helpful in...

Sorry, got to agree with WG. Abstinence is the only way. Some of us are in it for the long haul, not just Foundation and we need to keep focussed. I would appreciate no food talk, and if you must mention specific food the title your post "FOOD WARNING" please.

Fine by me, Sarah-J!

Just moving you in the list, Beverley! Louale - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 13lbs - 7.0 stones to lose Somewhere... - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 13.5lb - 9 stones to lose Carl - 5th Jan - Week 0 - 0lb - 3 stone 9 lb to lose Westie - 5th Jan - Week 2 - 10lb - 4.5 stone to lose Indie - 5th Jan- Week 0 - 0lb -...

Welcome Beverley! I think a few of us had 2nd week cravings/"hunger" and of course you're finding it hard with birthday stuff about. But you've made it this far so keep going a day at a time and we'll be here to support you.

Hmm, long way to go for me yet and I can see both sides of the argument but...wouldn't your LLC know that you hadn't done the milk if you had a normal loss and the others didn't?

Brilliant Becks! And I really hope your Mum does well at WI too. GGF, so sorry about your problems and I hope you don't have to give up, but you must do what is best for your health at this time.

Me too. I only have one when I really need an extra savoury drink and am sick of tea and I have run out of packs for the day.

Hi Sean!

Congratulations you bunch of losers! And welcome to Robyn!

Welcome to Mrs S and Carla!

I think it's a lovely idea!

Now who's being smutty? :8855:

Thanks Samantha, very useful. I wish to announce (fanfare and drum roll) that I wore my Sloggis to last night's WI - definitely snug but not too bad!