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I believe you can also use an antiseptic throat spray such as ultrachloroseptic

what about contacting head office and explaining about the lack of counselling u had

Ok so here's the thing. I have been doing LL since the beginning of May. I have had great success with it but the last three or four weeks I have really been messing about. I even put on 5 lbs one week. I have struggled to stay in abstinance and don't really know what to do for the best. I think...

Its definately down to the individual. Our LLC says that we are paying for the food packs and the counselling is free. Therefore if you have food packs left over you only pay for what you need but you have to buy them in blocks of seven i.e. 14 packs is 33 pound and 7 packs is 18.50. Also if...

I seem to go against what everyone here says I am afraid. I found the first week far easier than things are now. In fact for me it has gotten progressively more difficult. Stick with it though

Sarah would it be possible for you to put all your recipe ideas on one post somewhere please? You have some great ideas and I would love a copy of them all

I have to say I feel quite lucky in development, although the weight loss has been a bit slow. My LLC is really rather good. We had 10 of us in last weeks group and our groups is quite structured. She runs a four week plan which is the journey, ego states, must/should/ought parent messages...

I noticed you mentioned about having problems with your teeth on your blog. I was wondering in what way. The reason I ask is because I seem to be having problems with a couple of mine too and it seems to have become much worse since being on LL. Was wondering if there is a connection

I have the Games People Play and I have attempted it a couple of times and found it really hard going and that was why I have struggled so much with the concepts of TA I think. I am glad what I have posted has helped everyone though. I have just bought Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for...

Table showing words/tones/gestures etc associated with the ego states. This table is on my blog and I can't figure out how to get it here so if you want some idea on how to recognise your own ego state click here

As no-one has commented on my TA/Ego states post I have done some research myself and with feedback from our counselling session last night, week 2 development the journey - ego states. I have found the following info. Recognising Ego States Each person is made up of three alter ego states...

so no-one else understands this either? anyone?

Does anyone have a good grasp on this concept who could maybe explain it a bit for me? We have done it a couple of times and I understand the basic concept but I dont really know how to work out what ego state I am in. I have a confession. I was having a brilliant week until Saturday when...

I just had to come and say something cos I am dead pleased with myself. I have had a couple of difficult weeks on LL and only lost 2lb a week. Therefore this week I have gone right back to basics and been having my shakes as they are supposed to be, whisked up with water and I have spread them...

Thanks got it in my Morrisons but not the low salt one unfortunately

Does anyone know where I can get this please?

I agree the more water you can manage the better

I went to my development class last night and was informed they are being done in four week blocks. Last night was week one and was "the Journey". Week 2 is The Ego States, Wk 3 The must/should/ought, Wk 3 Me activity. I was just wondering what other peoples experiences are of these processes.

Does anyone have a myspace page they would like to share? Mine is MySpace.com - Sharon - 37 - Weiblich - UK - www.myspace.com/ange11eyes

Are we supposed to get any books or anything in development? I have been twice now and it seems a bit of a rip off still paying £66 a week when I am only getting the foodpacks and counselling now

I was wondering if this is normal. The last four days I have been completely exhausted. Just to calrify I don't work out of the home, got three children off on school hols. They are all a bit older, 6, 11 and 13 so I am not running round after them. I seem to be sleeping for about 3 to 4...

Eileen its a belt that electronically stimulates your muscles to contract. Kind of like doing crunches without laying on the floor. You can see at the website just do a search on google for slendertone I used it twice yesterday and I can definately feel my muscles have had a workout

It's nice to see what everyone does. I think Kerrie hit the nail on he head for me that I may well have recofnised a potential problem area for myself. I think I might change mine around slightly

When i was eating I used to notice that I could go all day, unless I was in binge mode, without eating and then would snack constantly in the evening. Now I have noticed I am doing something similar with my food packs. I don't have anything until at the earliest 1pm and then its usually half a...

Anyone else got one? I bought one today after reading a thread that IceMoose on CD did about them. I can see this becoming a new addiction for me. I love it and will be doing it twice a day I think. I already go to the gym and do a 30 minute circuit of resistance work four times a week. I...

lol sorry Karion I didn't mean yours wouldn't be it was just Sarah answered whilst I was still here at the computer

Thanks Sarah u are a diamond. Please don't feel there is a rush if you have loads to catch up on just when you get time. BTW hope your mouth is feeling better now, I did feel for you when I saw the swollen picture.

If I was going to recommend something to anyone just starting out on LL this would be one of them. I started out and did about two weeks at the beginning of foundation. Then I stopped, and boy do I wish I hadn't. I have started it up again now but there are so many things that have happened...

Sarah yours would be awesome if you don't mind sharing once you are better. I tried what you suggested but its just making me cross now lol it keeps putting stuff in the wrong place. I even got the manual out and I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Maybe you could email your file when...

Has anyone else done a weight loss spreadsheet and/or chart in excel? I have been entering all my data into a very basic spreadsheet on excel but I can't figure out how to get the chart facility working. Was just wondering if anyone else has done one they would mind sharing?

Thanks for all the responses. I am in a better frame of mind today and I WILL go tonight. I made myself feel sick yesterday because of all the rubbish I ate so I have made a note of that and highlighted it in my journal so it stands out like a sore thumb if I ever feel like having another...

Hope your final class goes well Julia. Ours was very emotional and actually quite tough on us all, a kind of mourning process. I am doing development too and want to lose about another 6 stone

Ok here's the thing. Finished foundation on 22 July 3 stone lighter. That was a Sunday and the developers meeting was on the Tuesday night. I didn't go to that one cos it was so close to the foundation meeting, last Tuesday I couldn't go either cos we were away. I am going tomorrow, trouble...

I have moved onto development Helen but I haven't been to a class yet. I should have gone last Tuesday but we were away so tomorrow is my first night at development

My GP surgery have a flat rate no policy also. I think personally it should be done on a case by case policy. Don't worry thought your LLC will know someone who can do it. I had mine done by someone she recommended and it cost £60 a small price to pay in my opinion

I have a lemon bar every day made as biscuits. Apparently, according to our LLC, the bars are purposely not delicious as we are supposed to work on our emotions around food and not feel like we are using food as a treat. Apparently this is what happened with the raspberry one they were...

What pack do u have left? What about splitting it? I do this with the thai chilli soup and make crisps. I get two batches of 4, that might help stave it off for now and give u something for later?

I am now in developers only I haven't been to a meeting yet. Its a Tuesday night and next week I am away so I won't be going for a couple of weeks. I have refocussed my efforts after reading some of the things which have been said. I have made a new calendar up and stuck it on the freezer...

I just cannot seem to do this now the kids are off on holidays. I have three girls 13, 11 and 6 all of them are stuck in the house most of the time at the moment cos of the weather. We don't have much money so I cannot afford to take them out to places all the time and as they differ so much...

Julia I joined the group late. Our development meeting is on a Tuesday night at 6 or 7.30. Some of the other ladies in our foundation group are going into development, one at 6 and three of us at 7.30 so we will still be together, at least some of us will be. I am not going tomorrow as I only...

wooohooo 5lbs off this week. 1lb off three stone now in 11 weeks. I am now going onto development as our foundation group has now closed

lol Sarah not only can I not remember what happen in book 6, now I have revisited it it turns up that I never actually read it lol so I have to start with that one before I read book 7

Perhaps you need to revisit some of the tools you learned in counselling Helen, try some thought records? Fingers crossed for u for tonite though

What about constipation? One of the girls at our class was very similar in your weight losses and she had had a bit of tummy ache. One of the other members is a nurse so she had a chat with her and they thought it might be that she was constipated so she tried dulcolax last week, just once if...

I'm hanging onto it cos I really really want a better loss this week

Or even a happy week so far. I am having a really positive week this week so far. I had a very eye opening counselling session on Sunday night and it really set me up for the week. I have not had any thoughts of food, been new clothes shopping, got an excellant school report for eldest...

OMG 8lb Trish that is awesome, well done. Also doesn't the clothes thing feel brilliant, I had a similar experience yesterday

I've been clothes shopping this morning lol Bought two tops size 18, was a 24 so no wonder my boobs were falling out of them lol and two pairs of trousers in 20 down from a 24 also. Plus I got some new lippy and jewellry. Doesn't it feel good to treat yourself

Thats awesome Eileen well done

20:28 So much for hour by hour lol but I haven't needed it. Mind you I have a new mobile phone so that has kept me busy and distracted. Teatime was fine no problem. Have had 5.5 litres today. Banana shake for brekkie then split a packet of Thai chilli as crisps for lunch and then second half...

16:27 Now the test starts. All three kids are back from school and all in the house as we have a thunderstorm. This is usually the time that I find hardest to remain in my adult. I am going to sort their dinner our now and try to stay on track mentally

Good luck Jennie. I am sure you will do well, just remember the first few days are the hardest

13:23 Still going strong. Had a long chat on the phone with a mate who has been having a rough time lately and I think some of the stuff I have learned might well help her.

10:56 Shhhh quietly.....its not raining!! Yes that's right the sun is actually shining here in Wales, bet it doesn't last lol I can't go out though cos I am waiting for a delivery Laura you are so right in what you say. I thing I had an epiphany this weekend. The last couple of weeks had...

9:19am Had one bottle of water so far (0.75 l) and tidied up downstairs. Really wanted to go to the gym this morning but I have to wait in for a mobile phone delivery. Renewed energy this morning for LL and staying focussed so far. Just going to finish off the kitchen then have breakfast...

07.29 New week new beginning. WI lost 2lb. So not a completely disastruous week. However, the counselling session tonite was a bit of an eye opener. I managed to get across that there are problems in my relationship and that I believe food has been my coping mechanism for that. Everyone was...

15:58 They are great goals Ann-Marie. How are you finding the plan overall? Do u like the foodpacks? How are you finding the counselling? I have to think about food again now as I haven't got anything planned for hubby and the kids for tea tonight but I think I am ok with that. Might ask...

14:21 Another litre done. Also has half a lemon bar as biscuits. Managed to keep occupied with the TV so far today so that's good. Have a mountain of ironing to do, so I might do that whilst Big Brothers Little Brother is on

13:08 We had our school fete yesterday Ann-Marie and we were very lucky with the weather. I had forgotten about heartburn too, I used to get that as well. Just ges to show that we really should write all these things down Re the homework, I have done some of it but not all. I have...

11:04 Hey yo-yo (sorry don't know your name!) Isn't the weather naff? At least it is here in South Wales I just found a couple more positives about my weight loss so far. I have just been for a bath, I haven't been in our bath for the whole time I have been on LL I use our shower every day...

10:07am All the kids are up. They have been downstairs and made themselves toast so I had the smell of toast and marmite wafting through the house. So far so good, didn't bother me. OH is up too and for once didn't come in the front room and turn on the TV. It is so annoying when he does...

What a good idea Eileen. I was measured by the LLC when I started plan so I might ask her to do them again tonight and see how I have done. For some of our group its week 13, only week 10 for the rest of us, so we are having photos done tonight, that should help too. Also I started at the gym...

Firstly thanks for all the replies on my post yesterday after my meltdown. I spoke with other half about my feelings and we are going to work on it. I am going to try and do an hour by hour post though in an attempt to stay on track. Its WI tonight and I am pretty sure I haven't lost anything...

I am so fed up to the back teeth this week. I haven't felt 100% this week bit of a sore throat and a bad headache for a few days but I know that is not the root of the problems. I am so fed up not eating, not participating with the family and having no control over how I feel. Food was my coping...

I have bought one or two new things but very little. Primark go up to about a size 18, I think. However if you have a bonmarche they are quite cheap and do some nice stuff in larger than 18 sizes

Thanks to Mrs Lard I managed to complete a Thought Record this morning What happened? Felt ill Argued with DH No sympathy Took crisps Ate two packets Ate Jelly babiesMost important thoughts (hot thoughts) I’m unappreciated I’m misunderstood An inconvenience Unloved I’ve eaten one packet may...

Yes please. My LLC has covered them twice and I still don't really "get" it

What a fantastic loss, well done

2lbs off for me this week which I am ok with. I made the decision, in my adult, to eat something on Friday. Poached egg on toast. I was really struggling with my chatterbox that I wanted the social event of sitting down and eating properly so rather than fight it which I had been doing most...

OMG you look absolutely fanstastic. Well done!!

Is anyone else finding things tough at this stage? I really really want to eat and I don't mean mindless binging. I mean a proper meal. We always used to sit down to a family dinner in the evening, partner and three children and I really miss the social even of us having a meal together.

Just wondering if anyone else is doing thought records? I keep looking at them and haven't managed to do one as something is happening yet but only after the event so to speak. Also i have to be honest I don't really relate any of them to food. It seems that I don't turn to food as a reaction...

Thanks guys I am feeling much more positive this morning. I took myself off to bed at 8.30 last night as I was in a realy grump! I have woken up this morning feeling postive although still fed up with the weather.

I have eaten:break_diet: I wasn't even hungry really. I think its the weather getting me down I wish it would be sunny I have eaten a small tin of tuna and a couple of very thin slices of corned beef and a packet of crisps!!!!:cry:

Hope you don't mind me joining this thread. I started on 6th May and have lost 32lb so far. Well done everyone else on your losses

Apparently bio oil is supposed to help diminish them .: Bio Oil :.

Hi Maz I have had some wicked mood swings in the 8 weeks I have ben on plan so don't feel alone. How come you have had no counselling yet? Thats pretty poor

Braver woman than me Kate, I don't think I could do that

Fancy cinammon in my hot chocolate, going to try that tonite

I should think you would be ok with a plain salad and some lean protein

oh and regarding the party. Plan for it, if you really do want to eat for it then make it a planned blip. Maybe stick with the water and shakes all day and just have something in the evening at the party. Try to make wise choices, avoid alcohol, carbs and just stick with salad and lean...

hun please don't feel like crap. I have been there the week before last, I had a binge and on the Sunday night at my weigh in I felt like you do now. Try and get rid of the negative thoughts and focus on what you have achieved. I really think a lot of this is about being more aware of what we...

Paula firstly sending cyber hugs. What a rough time moving house is the most stressful thing you can do let alone moving country so don't be too hard on yourself. You can't change what you have done but you can learn from it. Go back to basics. Make sure you are having at least your 4 litres...

Hi Maz I am doing LL and its the best plan ever. The counselling is brilliant and you learn some great tools if you are willing to give it a go. Well done on your first weeks loss I lost 9lb my first week too

I think it also depends on the LLC and if she is willing to bend the rules a little

Wow your photos are amazing, very inspirational

We have one lady in our group who has not been in ketosis at all but she still has fantastic losses

So sorry to see this happened. It could be any number of things that caused it but you mustn't dwell on it. Look at the bigger picture of how much you have lost over all and just stay focussed for next week. Maybe get your measurements checked also?

Can't say I have had it bad but I have heard that if you are using the water flavourings they can give u a bit of wind. Maybe it is your system readjusting again after eating and will settle in a day or two?

I totally understand where you are coming from on this one Sandra. I too have often wondered if people truly learn anything following this plan, well some people anyway. I am quite surprised how many people think its a quick fix. We also have to remember though that not everyone is...

I am reading PS I love you by Cecilia Ahern. I don't usually "do" chick lit but this one is lovely

I lost 9lbs my first week. I have about 8 stone to lose altogether. Please don't be disappointed thats a fantastic loss. Everyone loses differently depending on all kinds of factors, exercise, metabolism, hormones, water etc. You have to just keep reminding yourself that there is no way you...

Congratulations thats a fantastic achievement

What an awesome post. It must be a great feeling fitting into "skinny" stuff. Something I am really looking forward to. Regarding clothes that are too big at our group meetings we have a rail you can put stuff on and then other people can just take things that they like/fit. Although I think...

Well done Suzy. It just goes to show that we can do things we think are even going to be impossible. With just a little thought about things we can manage anything.

Kate I did this the week before last. I had a bad week nothing major just ate stuff and then only lost 1lb. I was really upset and very tearful but the group were awesome. Talked to me and calmed me down. I had a major guilt trip as I felt I had let myself down. Then last week I really...

I have found her blog and she is awesome isn't she? I think half the trouble I have is when I should be doing a thought record its just too busy as its usually when the kids all get in (I have 3) from school and its pretty manic then

Is anyone completing thought records? Our LLC has been over them a couple of times but I am still struggling to do them. Not sure where to start or how to do them properly really

Hi All I am Sharon and I live in South Wales. I joined the Lighter Life programme on the 6th of may and weighed in at 16st 10lb. 8 weeks later I am now 14st 6lb and have lost 32lb. I Love this plan and I am looking forward to chatting with you and finding out how everyone else is doing

HI everyone I started Lighter Life on the 6th May 2007 and so far I have lost 32lbs. I am loving this plan!! I have about another 6 stone to go so will go into developing once I have completed foundation. I have also joined a gym