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Hi All I left here back in March as I had achieved my goal weight. I was trying to lose weight as I needed an operation to repair a large hernia. When I left I was down to my goal weight of 16st - Since March I have put on a staggering 3st 12lbs!. However I decided to do something about it so...

Firstly sorry it's taken so long to reply - I didn't see your post. Secondly - as it says on my stats I started in July last year and have actually now stopped since last Saturday so approx 7 1/2 months and a total loss of 13 stone. I am now doing yhr re feed and will then go on to a calorie...

I weigh every day at home and note my naked weight in a book - When I weigh at the pharmacy ( actually I use the boots machine down the road as the pharmacy hadn't got one that could weigh me!) I always try to wear the same clothes and keep all the same things in my pockets ( I am a bloke!) so...

It will go away - the trick is to keep yourself occupied so that you don't think about food or your diet. Easy to say I know but that is the best way. Make your soups/shakes part of a routine and take them at approx the same time so that you don't expect food etc all the time. Good luck!

Again my point is that we are not medically qualified and of course neither is the lady in the chemist - she may well be trained but that is not the same. I agree that you should follow the diet as written andnot vary it to get the best result. But again I will say that less calories means less...

Missing a shake will not slow down your weight loss - How can it? If you take in less calories then you should in theory lose even faster. If you are in ketosis already then you can go no further in - Ketosis is for all intents starvation mode for your body. As someone said , don't weigh daily -...

Why not call the LT helpline on the 0800 number then you can get the info from the horses mouth rather than the other end!

Butterflies, tummy rumbling - Yep had them all and still have the rumbling tummy. Still I start the refeeding on Saturday so we'll see if that continues then.

My ideal BMI says I should be 13st 10lbs ( I am 6' 2") which is totally ludicrous - I would look like a stick insect!!. I currently weigh 16st and I am going to stop at 15st - as it is I look like a shadow of my former self and I am also starting to look haggard. So sod the BMI - mine has gone...

I think exercise may help but also ask yourself why you picked the weight you have. Was it because this is where you were at a certain age - or perhaps before a child? You may not be being realistic about your target weight. CHeck it out.

I have not stopped going out socially at all - I just don't eat or drink alcohol. My oh is very supportive and so are my friends. If you want this then tell him that should be enough for him!! How selfish is he being? Tell him you have a medical probelm this will solve - high blood pressure or...

Wow I think I am blushing!!

Well I am type 2 diabetic - If your Mum is Type 1 then she may not be able. Even so as a Type 2 I had to get it OK'd by my Dr before the pharmacy?LT would let me start. When I did this diet back in 2000 I was actually put on it via a trial at my local hospital run by my diabetic consultant so I...

Yes as it says on my stats I started in July last year and I am finsihing LT on 1st March then going on to a reduced calorie diet to lose the last stone. I have lost 13 stone so oh yes it has been worth it!:D

I think as a bloke , that the best thing would be to meet. If he isn't intersted in you for you then why do you want to be with him?

Well being a man and having three sons I didn't want to conceive! But being type 2 diabetic and losing control of it really got me worried so I decided that I needed to finally do something. Hence the LT. It has been a hard 7 1/2 months but so totally worth it.

Der!!!! What other diet could you do that would lose you 8 lbs in only a week? You'd have to cut off your head!!! Don't despair that is a brilliant result - keep going - you can do it!!

You should remember that as you are now eating significantly less that you won't have the "mass?" that you had before the diet so you will not need to go as often.

Simply - Yes you will pile on the weight if you don't re feed. The initial weight loss in LT is because you lose the water that is reatined in the glygogen - this going is what gives you the intital large weight loss. If you don't re feed then this will come on in a day or two in almost the same...

Being a man I don't know about the ToTM issue but that aside I have had a couple of no loss weeks over the whole period. It sometimes happens. I am now nearing the end of my diet - and it feels like the weight has stalled - It hasn't but that's my perception. Keep going and don't worry you are...

It'll certainly take at least 7 days I would think - How long did it take when you started? That's how long it will probably take this time!

I have had a similar issue although as I am already mostly bald it doesn't seem to make too much of a difference. This did happen to me last time and it soon thickened up again. So don't worry too much!

How about the old food poisoning so I can't eat trick?

It's somewhat similar in looks and texture to dried horse poo - In terms of taste it is similar to what I imagine horse poo to taste like !! That said you can get used to anything!!!

Well done !!! I have only five pounds to go myself so I am catching you up!!

If you eat without going on a refeeding session then you will put on as much as 7-10lb in a day!. Read the info you were given - when you start LT the first week is basically fluid loss from Glycogen stored in the liver - once this is depleted then the fat begins to burn - ie Ketosis. If you...

It may be a normal reaction - give it a few days to pass - if not consult your Doctor - Don't stop or break the diet without proper advice as it will be hard to restart.

Keep going - don't give in!!

I have done the cooking at home from day one - the only problem is that I can't taste the food so have to rely on someone being around to test it for flavour!. It definietely helps me - As you say - strange but true!!

Chewing gum - particularly Sugar free contains sorbitol - that will make you loose in your bowels. The other main reason is that chewing stimulates the production of saliva and will also make you hungry and you really don't want that!. There may also be colours in the gum which could halt...

I would not take too much notice of that! If you know that you have been drinhking the right amount of fluid and that you don't have any pre existing condition that might affect it then ignore. I am not aware of any device that can accurately tell you your water content from any external means...

I would check on the packet contents with the details from the carrier bags - I am fairly sure the only difference is the size of the portion - If this is so and they are twice the size then you have indeed got a bargain!

Get checked out by your Doctor. It's probably just that you have overdone the exercise - but possible you need more fluid. Either way check it out. When you are overweight it doesn't do to take on strenuous exercise without checking first.

One thing you don't have to worry about: it is healthy. What isn't healthy is carrying weight you shouldn't have. Before people start to criticise how you lose weight they should consider that they were probably saying you should lose weight as too much is unhealthy! They seem to want it both ways!!

Every seven days makes sense

Routine is the secret. Space your shakes out to times you can manage and stick to them. I would have my first flapjack @ 10.00aqm then another at 3pm and then my soup at 7pm. Works well for me!!

I have always had wierd tastes ( inherited from my Mum) I always add a dash of white pepper to my chicken soup and then a lot of vinegar. I have no idea whether this causes any problems or not but so far I have lost ovewr 12st so evidently not!.

ANy idea why you thew up? Tyr to replace the lost meal as you may be short of something.

No problem

The diets definitely works - but then any diet works provided you stick to it. The difference here is that the diet is scientifically constructed to ensure you have all the necessary vitamins and minerals you need to stay healthy whilst you starve yourself. There is no danger of you being short...

I weigh myself every morning - and have done since I started - I make a nte in a small book with a running total weight and loss. I then oput it in an excel spreadsheet which has both my recorded dailt weight and also my weekly weigh ins at the pharmacy. I can then track my fully dressed and...

I hated all of the shakes - in fact they tasted so awful that for the first week I just didn't have them . I tried the chicken soup and stayed with that from the start using the flapjacks as a bit of a change. Worked for me!

Just remember that the Pharmacy staff are trained ( usually!) but not necessarily expert. You can call Lipotrim and talk to Valerie on an 0800 number so a free call, and she will advise you accordingly. It's always best to speak to the people that know. Don't forget this is an expensive premium...

Why not have a word with Lipotrim?

I have had only positive feedback - but - I couldn't care less what anybody thinks as I am doing this for my health. Also as it is a decision that I reached and it's my physical and mental well being I am concerned with I just think sod em!!!. I am fed up being fat, fed up not doing anything...

I just sleep through it!!

I did the LT forst in 2000 - lost 13 st then over about 5 years put it all back on again. I decided to do something about it last year - went on a waiting list for a gastric band - then after losing 4 stone on the LT diet the op came up. I had it done in October but it has never been activated (...

My understanding ( as a male) is that I can swap 2 for a soup - As a man you only have either 2 soups/shakes a day or 2 flapjacks and 1 soup/shake. For the entire 7 months that I have been doing this I have had 1 soup and two flapjacks per day - and I've lost 12st plus!. Maybe it's different for...

It's really easy !! Just treat it as you would getting older!!! After a while it gets to be a habit ( just like eating too much or not doing enough exercise ) and that way the time just flies.

I am so pleased (for me!) that everybody is feeling the cold. I thought it was just me. I now wear long johns to bd as well as hot water bottles and bed socks!. Previously I was always so hot. My wife always use to use me to warm up and now it's the other way round. Mind you , that has it's...

Hmmm... My problem was always eating and reading at the same time!. I still read now while I have my flapjacks or soup. Pre diet I read approx 1 book per day - nopw I am down to one every 3 days!. I have always been a voracious reader and find it difficult after so many years to change my...

Great!!! I am also now just overweight - not that I care after coming down by 12st any improvement is good. Keep up the good work!!

Well I have been doing the same thing since day 1 and I have lost 12st and am healthy (so far as I know!) I have changed to decaffeinated coffee this week but other than that no problems. I am not sure that I have ever heard that caffeine is a diuretic or that is causes any type of dehydration...

Thanks for that - that helps!

I hope you are wrong about tea and coffee not counting because I only have coffee and nothing else! I have approx 2.5 litres of coffee per day - sometimes more never less but no other fluids whatsover and after 6 months and 12st gone I feel fine.

Well done = keep going. I have been using either 1 soup and 2 flapjacks although I did experiment with 4 flapjacks - which I found OK.

I have been on it since 18th July last year and have not had any breaks or holidays. I've lost nearly 12 stone and am now only 17 lbs off my target. I am finishing at the end of Feb which will be just over 7 months and I am fine!!

I now weigh 3 lbs less than my Missus! We've been married for 32 years of if she waqnted a new man she has him!!. I'm happy with her no matter what.

Strange - for the last six months I have been on 2 flapjacks and a chicken soup every day. I don't have constipation but then neither do I have the other problem. For this week as an experiment I tried having 4 flapjacks per day - and whilst I don't have diahorrhea I have been more often and...

I've always hated having my picture taken but I do have some of the before's although I haven't had any taken of the current me. I don't need them I am on such a high from meeting people I haven't seen since I started and all the "you look amazings!" are good enough for me!

Why not check with the quack? It is probably nothing but worth while getting it OK'd.

Love me love my breath!!!!

Just go for it - I first tries LT in 2000 and lost 14 stone but eventually put it all back on over a period of three years. It took me a long long time before I could face it again but since I have been doing it I have been OK. It's been six months this time and as I am planning on finishing in...

I break them up into tiny pieces about the size of a pea then eat it with a sip of coffee - You can't ( well I can't) eat them with normal mouthfuls as they are too horrible & dry. In mini bites they are fine. I usually try to find those that have been slightly overbaked and are harder than...

I have had the stomach rumbling since day one but I just ignore it. I also have a very large epi gastric hernia ( this means I have a belly like a baloon!!) so it is even louder than the average.

Something doesn't sound right here - are you sure you have weighed on thew same machine and that you were either wearing the same ( or nothing) clothes?

Ladies!! Please remember there are red blooded males on this forum!!!:eek:

I lost 2 stone a month for the first 3 months BUT the ist week saw a 15lb loss so that skewed the results a bit. I am now after losing 11st 6lbs, losing an average of 4lbs per week still, and that seems to be as good as it gets.

Listen - I had a number of reasons for going on this diet - the number one was my health - the others are so many - such as having to be careful where I went because I couldn't fitr into seats at the cinema/theatre/ Airplanes, cafes etc. Also struggling to get up hills/stairs etc. Another one is...

Like the song says " things can only get better!!" Keep going it will soon pass and then you can look in the mirror without cringing!!

Keep going - it's hard but oh so worth it!!

I should have said that the machine in Boots gives you a print out with all the relevant data - Height weight and BMI. When I first started the diet I had to get my Dr to fill in a form as I am a type 2 diabetic and they needed that before they would supply. They don't do BP etc and to be...

Stick to the plan - it makes sense!

You'll be back!!

Excellent!!

Any reasonable exercise is good - just don't over do it.

You are so right - when you are bored you need to find something to do quickly so as not to eat. After 6 months on this diet I still get bored and start thinking about having my soup early or something. When I manage to entertain myself I forget about food altogether an can go days without any...

I'm here too!

Don't think so - but worst case it may take a day or two to recover.

I think that sufficient fluid intake is the key to avoiding constipation - I first did LTR 100 in 2000 and suffered horribly - this time around I drink more fluid and don't have a problem at all.

It will get better as everyone says ,. On Thursday I will have been on LT for exactly 6 months - believe me you get used to it!!

If at first you don't succeed.....etc etc etc - Just get back on that horse!!!

SO far I haven't needed anything in this department - the first time I di Lipo (2000) i really needed it! - I think ensuring that you have sufficient fluid helps a lot.

Don't get so close!!:D

I always eat them with black coffee - I break them into tiny pieces and drown them in coffee - that way they don't taste as bad. I can't eat them dry or on their own.

Being a sufferer of male pattern baldness this upset me a bit intially but it does reverse once you go back to a normal diet. But the positive side is even hair weighs something!!!!

Ladies? I'm definitely a man!!!:eek:

I do weigh myself daily - and it can be both uplifting and disappointing as some days there is no apparent loss and then all fo a sudden you drop a couple of pounds. I also use a spreadsheet to record my loss on a daily and weekly basis - the daily is when I weigh myself naked every morning the...

You haven't lived until you've tried horse poo!!!!:D If you would like to taste it just exchange one shake for a flapjack - mnice & safe and another "one day" item ticked off your to do list!!

I agree boredome is a major factor in my being overweight in the first place . I try hard to think of something else to do when I am bored - Currently fitting a log burner to keep myself occupied!!!

I think that too may peoiple get hung up on the headches thing - Yes it is uncomfortable but very short lived. It will go away it's mostly mental as you think that not eating will give you a headache so you get one. As has been said after the firts week that will go away - just keep going!!

Don't get hung up on the ketotis thing = If you have stuck rigidly to the diet as instructed and you are losing forget the ketosis!! It'll happen anyway. Just concentrate on doing the diet right and ensure sufficient fluids and you will be fine.

I don't know - I also asked about Pempsi Max as that has zero calories of any kind - The Liptrim person said that it might encourage me to drink other fizzies - or maybe it has calorific values in the colouring. Fruit teas may also contain natural sugars.

Wow! I had exactly the same reaction to the shakes when I tried them. I have no problem with the soup or the flapjacks - I hadn't thought to try all flapjacks. So do you have 4 per day then?

Good luck we are all rooting for you!!

I had constipation the first time I tried LT but this time I have drunk plenty of fluid and that seems to be the key.

Not come across this one. Are there any other factors that could bring this on?

Not for me!!

Tell me about it!!!

Go girl!!

Good luck mate - you can do it!

I have cold hands and nose! I also get cold feet so I use hot water bottles. Mind you as my wife seems to be having hot flushes all the time it means I don't have to turn the heating up as I use her to keep me warm!!

SO you don't have any soup or shakes at all?

Check with your Doctor - excessive thirst could be a sign of Type 2 diabetes

I have a similar issue although it doesn't surface until I get near goal weight. "You don't look well!" or "You look too thin" or " You look ill" etc etc etc. That said the amount of good will comments I get are hugely rewarding and just help me to maintain my progress. As for putting it back...

Basically as long as it has no sugar or cream or anything other than coffee then it's fine. Healing is not affected in any way as a result of the diet - If you have a medical condition that might give you cause for concern then check with your Doctor. Exercise is fine but as you get further in...

I have two flapjacks per day and have done since July. I usually have them with black coffee and take around 20 mins to eat each one breaking it into small pieces. I can't eat them wiothout coffee as they have the consistency of dried horse poo and a similar flavour!. I was also amused to find...

If you are at all unsure then visit/talk to your Doctor - it can't hurt and it will ensure you are doing it right or are healthy.

I definitely do not feel hungry ...ever.. But I do still crave food - the dieting aspect of losing weight is not the issue for me but the eating whter or not I was hungry. I feel passionately that obesity is not a physical issue but a totally mental one. I used to eat constantly - even when I...

I suffer terribly from cold, cold hands, cold feet so much so that I wear a vest a t shirt another shirt then a jumper!. I also go to bed with thick socks and hot water bottles. As said exercise helps a lot. My car was always known as the "fridge" because I always had the air con on cold - now...

Yes I would agree - when it is yellow drink more fluid. space out the fluid don't drink it in big hits.

As siad before £48 per week in sunny Bournmouth!1 I think I will tell tehm to shove it very soon unless they drop the price - I will do a search locally to see who can do a better price.

I am sure that someone will know for certain. My opinion is that yes it will interfere. Alcohol is basically a sugar so it might well add some unwanted calories.

Yes as you will see from my stats I won't finish until the end of Feb -although I am not sure that I won't carry on to lose an extra stone. The main consideration for me is cost - I just cant afford to keep spending on LT it's just too expensive.

I never felt moody - or at least I didn't think so - but I have noticed that I have absolutely no patience when driving ( I know as a man that is standard but this is way over the norm!).

I asked the LP people why the foods tasted so awful - they replied that if they tasted good you would probably eat too many. I think they have a point. I think it is best to use the opportunity of having horrid tasting food to get used to the idea of eating less and not overdoing it.

I have been doing the diet now for 6 months and I have I falpajck at around 10.00am and then another at around 3pm then my soup ( I only have the soup no shakes) at approx 7pm. It works for me!!

As said it will depend on how heavy you are. I started in July last year and in the first week lost 18lbs. I had originally thought I would lose 2 stone per month but found as I went on that it dropped down to around 1st 4lbs per month. That said after 5 months I had lost 10stone - so the...

I go every week but first go to the local Boots where I use their weighing machine. It costs 50p but gives height weight and BMI so all I need from the pharmacy is the Lipotrim stuff itself. That said I always ee the same person who is Liptrim trained.

I might see if I can get mine elsewhere and save a few bob!

Go for it - it's hard at first but it soon becomes easier - Remember it is for you - no one else so don't let anyone change your determination or resolve.

I have been on this since 18th July 2011 - so coming up to 6 months and I have at least another 2 months to go (inc Jan) to get to my initial target of 16st - then I have to see about going further to 15st. My ideal weight according to the BMI charts is 13st 10lbs but I cannot believe that I...

Keep strong - it does get easier. Just have smug thoughts about how good you will look and feel when the pounds begin to melt!

I only have the chicken ( flavour!) soup as I can't take the shakes. I have the flapjacks too. I usually have a flapjack at 10.00am with three or four cups of black coffee then another at 3.00pm thern my soup at 7.00pm . Mind you I often miss them all when I am out or doing something but always...

Just start now - don't wait it's like falling off a horse you have to get back on asap!!:D

I am unemployed at the moment so can't afford a gym and to be honest I find exercise very very uninteresting. So far I have been doing a lot of walking and the occasional rowing session.

I weight 29st 7lbs when I started and am now at 18st 8lbs and now find I can fit behind the steering wheel without my belly touching it!! I walked 2 miles yesterday - tired but good!

I live in Bournemouth and have 2 flapjacks and a chicken soup and that costs me £48 per week. I feel as I am being ripped off but have no choice. Lipotrim should have one price for the UKand not let pharmacies rip us off.

I can't be bothered to watch as I think that the exercise apart they spend too much time moaning about not eating what they want!

I'm a guy too!!!

Joe stay strong - this will all seem like a bad dream in a few days time. Just check your weight loss to date and look forward to the pounds coming off quickly. Just think it actually took you a very long time to put the weight on - but on the TFR it comes off really qucikly. You can do it.!

Every one here is right - Just pick yourself up and start again. Remember this is for you not anyone else it's only you that is let down so remember that you are the only person who can forgive you - so forgive yourself and start again. go for it!

Thanks - as I am a man I'll not worry about the breasts bit! I am also 55 so again the lose falbby skin that comes with the weight loss I have is something I'll have to live with. I am not worried about what I look like naked. I will hopefully be getting an apronectomy when I have my hernia done...

I think that whatever works for you is the one for you! It is worth remembering that ANY diet will work providing you stick to it. My problme has always been that if you let me have a choice I will make one - incudling cheats but with the LT there is no choice you stick to it and you lose weight...

This is very interesting for me. I have now lost over 10 st and still have 3 or so to go. I find I have very little energy. When I go upstairs I find it difficult for lat flight ( I have 3) but , once I get there then I recover really quickly. I went for a 2 mile walk yesterday - which I felt...

My personal opinion is that if you were going to go on refeeding and you have all the necessary shakes then you might just as well do the refeed and just start your intake control a little early. If the diet and all the help and support on here has taught me anything it is that losing the weight...

One thing to remember and that I found helped me enormously is that once you have managed to complete the 1st 7 days and then you have the weigh in and you find that you have lost anywhere between 7-15lbs the high that gives you is better than anything else.

I have been doing the diet since July and all of that time my stomach has been really noisy! Just ignore it!

Carbonated water is fine - but may make you feel uncomfortable so drink it slowly. It might be beteer to go for Soda water. No flavoured waters at all though!

I can see what you mean but I do find this diet totally over the top pricewise. Mine costs me £48 per week and as I am unemployed that is a killer. Also although the TFR formula keeps me in good health I am the one doing all the work - the TFR contributes nothing to my effort or determination...

Thanks for the support ! It helps!!

I also started on July 18th and am still going. I have 2 flapjaxks per day and one chicken soup. So far the xmas holiday has been the hardest but I have help firm and have so far lost 10st 3lbs

Hi all. I have now been doing the Liptorim TFR since 18th July 2011. My start weight was 29st 7lbs. I current weigh 18st 11lbs. I am aiming for 15st . I had originally hoped for a 2st per month weight loss but it seems to have slowed down lately I now average 3-5lbs per week instead of a...