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Hello I have done VLCD's on and off for the last few years. The first time being very successful. Then regaining due to binging. Then I have had numerous false starts since. I have had the flu like symptoms before but I am sure never this bad. Maybe I have forgotten as its been that long...

Herbalife has no aspartame but you have to make them with milk. So not really a VLCD.

I didnt mean to post that. Aghh What I meant to say is Timetogetserious you have put all my worries into perspective. Thank you.

Thanks been thinking the same. My friend dors herbalife.

I just had some fried in water with mushrooms and onion. I mixed it with extra light phili ( my protein, as hate meat) and a cheeky dash of soy sauce and a few herbs. It was a plateful and absolutely gorgeous. They tasted like real noodles. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

They are supposed to take the flavour of the dish they are in. So yes they could probably be used for that. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I tried this today. They were nice, bulked up the meal. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I have done day 1 and wrote down why I want to lose weight. I used to do this anyway. I had a text message reminding me of the reasons why. Maybe I didn't read it enough. :-0 Good Luck everyone x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I am exactly the same as you , I am typing this feeling full sick , after eating sooo much. So your not the only one, its soo hard. I have downloaded that book on my kindle and I am going to give it a dam good try. You could dig yours out to and lets see if it works. Its worth a try. Its not...

Hi, So is this book that good? I am tempted to download it. I have read others , but have still spent the weekend binging. I am sick of falling off and putting on the dew pounds I have lost. Ok, off to find my kindle. :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi what are the noodles called? I cant find them. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi 5sttogo This is exactly what I did first time round of SnS. I watched a body building programme where this guy was driving around craving donuts and he had to find some before his midnight cut off point. I lost two stone this way. I found it kept me focused and gave me a meal to look...

Nomore I feel the same. I am such a self saboteur. :-( x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oh Gosh!!!! Thats awesome. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

You can always take a bottle of water and mix the shake up as and when if your out and about or use the bars when your at uni. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Fatty bum bum How are you doing now? Are you feeling any better? It is hard with kids off. I am finding I want to eat. We will get there. Got to stay focused. It is hard but worth it. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I dont know why but I feel cheated if I have hot shakes. Like I could get the same fullness from a cup of tea. I feel its mire of a meal cold. I am so weird, its all in my head. :-0 Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes its sooooooo cold , and its snowed here. So my daughter wants to go outside. Oh well will think of the calories burned trying to keep warm xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Your doing great , keep it up. Your weight loss is bound to slow down and reach a plateau , but you have to ride the wave and keep going through the tough times and all of a sudden your weight will start moving again. Sometimes with a big jump. I am the same as you and get motivation from...

I totally agree Kerance. I think its about finding what works for us as individuals.x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I have done a day off a week and still lost. Like body builders do. I do exercise a lot though. It has worked for me. I know your not supposed to but , I think its finding what works for yourself. This stops me getting bored. I know about ketosis etc but for me even when I have done it to the...

I have the eyelash serum. I think it works a bit, I would buy it again , as it has improved my eyelashes after being damaged by false ones. My uncle has glaucoma , the treatment has made his lashes thick, dark and long. So I guess it is possible to make hair grow , as mad as it seems. Xx Sent...

Same here, I did months first time round. This time I cant get past day 3 . :-( But today I will, I must. We all can :-)))) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Weasey, well done. You look sooo amazing. You are very inspirational and a great ad for SnS. Congratulations xxx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I use a whisk , rubbed between my hands for a shake. So no actual shaking at all. It gets all the lumps out for me. I dont know if you would find that any easier x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks weasey that is great advice xx Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi I could have written what you wrote this morning. I feel exactly the same way. I have been yo yo dieting for nearly two years now, I now way over eleven stone, when I had promised myself never to go over ten. I am a self saboteur. I can stick for a little while,then I binge. This has lead...

When you dont look at people in the face to talk, incase they get a face full of ketosis breath. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I grill them, it works well with the large ones or fry them in a bit of water. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I lost a stone in 2 weeks, I ate all of the above buy didnt have the protein. I had diet coke to. :-0 The best bet is to try it for a week and see what loss you get. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

This was the first meal my OH wanted to try, then he asked for more with cauliflower!!! Does he not realise I am on a limited allowance here lol It tastes so nice with cauli , not like diet food at all. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

The link wont open for me, for some reason :-( Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Its the only shake I actually like. yum yum! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Lighterlife uses TA and CBT as well. Thanks it maybe worth a look, and cheaper than lighter life. :-0 Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Just try and stay local calorie as much as possible, push food round your plate, have loads if water. Failing that , get back on the wagon as soon as the plane lands. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Really?? Wowsers I never knew! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thank you , I just did it with 120 mil and microwaved 3 mins. It was a bit sloppy. :-( Will try it right next time. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks. How long in the microwave? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi What is the recommended water allowance? I didnt get any instructions in my pack. Majorly impressed with the delivery time though. I ordered yesterday, opted for the cheapest non recorded Royal mail , it was here at 9.30 am. I dont live far from Thornaby though , so thats maybe why. Does...

I think the only definitive answer would be to experiment yourself. Try eating a certain amount for a few days and see what happens to your weight. I think it all depends on each of us individually and how active we are in the day etc. Not much help though, sorry. Sent from my iPhone using...

Oooo defo post a review, I had seen this on amazon before , but was a bit put off by the cost. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Moosh you made me spit out my shake lol lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Another way to look at it, is in agreement with Lucie, is that a day off boosts your metabolism. Body builders and other athletes have a day off their extreme diet once a week for this reason , I remember watching a programme where this guy was driving round looking for Doughnuts as he wanted...

I have one egg and add that two chicks liquid egg white , to bulk it up then scramble it. Its so tasty and seems a decent portion with the added liquid egg white. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yep its easy done. Put it behind you, and start again tomorrow. We can do this x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi I do an hour in the gym five times a week but after watching that exercise prog on Tuesday it seems its nearly as good to just keep moving all day. Get your NEAT rate up. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I love love quorn , but then I cant eat dead birds because I have an irrational fear of birds. So it scares me to eat them. Weird I know , wish I was scared of cakes and chocolate. :-) I actually prefer the taste of quorn to most meat. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oh I do love mushrooms to. Orange yes true , wouldnt need a spray tan then :-) lol Moosh yes your right shallots seems a similar carb content. I just looked at a jar of choc spread , the carbs are 56 in a 100 g. Now I am stressing over 10 . Oh how times change! Sent from my iPhone using...

Bad times! Mushrooms it is then. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Bad times! When we have to watch the amount of carrot we eat lol Maybe if I binged on carrot in the first place, I wouldnt be fat lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Great Moosh! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Me to Deezer especially when they go to the states but then as a contrast show what drinking too much tea does to you. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Congratulations cupcake x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Cereal for me, the slurping of the milk, the chomping and the clattering spoon. Boils my blood , thats even off diet lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Its on now. Yay :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Pinklady. I have been going on the vibro plates. My skin is so soft now and cellulite is improving. Its meant to burn 300 cals aswell but I am not that convinced on that part. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Lol I wish I had your will power. Saturday and Sunday was grease day for me. Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi tsweety. You sound like me, I dis five days then fell off big time. I ate so much . I stopped tasting the food. Just ate it for the sake of it. Put it behind you , you can start now and get back on track. Its never too late. We can do this! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oh I did the same on Friday! Lol naughty us. Any loss after that and a hangover day is a bonus really x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oh no Claire not the hunger!!! Can you brush your teeth or something or would that be strange in work? Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks Claire sorry to put Starbucks in your head. Two stone in two months is awesome. Well done. Just tried the red berry shake and was pleasantly surprised. It was yum. Not as good as the hazelnut though. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I still do not have a battery for my scales. So I weighed today in the gym after a good work out. I am on day 11 really but have binged about 5 of those days. :-0 I weighed 11 stone , naked , first thing in the morning at the start. I now weigh 10.8 , clothed after lots of water and a shake...

Totally agree phoenix. On lighterlife its no bars in the first week and one a day. I think partly so people stop snacking on chocolate things and try and become more of a fruit flavoured eater. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thank you Claire you have made me feel better. Boudoir shoot, must admit it had crossed my mind but I think I would be too nervous lol. Morning cupcake x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I shouldnt laugh but you have made me chuckle. Hope you feel better soon x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Sorry to read your bad news moosh. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks cupcake Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I such a self saboteur! I have lost and gained the same ten pounds for the last 18 months. I Am tired of being fat, my clothes dont fit so why cant I stick!!!! The weekend I just binged, I mean big time. I am starting afresh today, again!!! Its almost comical, my family laugh. Its not funny...

Bordersgirl ............. 10lb (0lb lost, 10lb to go) Weasey ................ 14lbs (0lb lost, 14lb to go) Trisha .................. 14lbs (0lb lost, 14lb to go) MiniMoosh ............. 14lbs (0lb lost, 14lb to go) LauraZee .............. 14lbs (0lb lost, 14lb to go) Donjon ...

Great idea

I think the bars are too small to , so I am sticking to the shakes and meals. They are ok as an evening snack though if on four packs a day. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oh twinkabelle sorry to read what has happened. I just read your whole dairy and think you have done great . I think your right to do just damage control with everything that is going on. Good luck x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done Borders girl on staying in control. I am not sure I am there yet but your posts give me hope and ideas. So thank you. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done Moosh. Enjoy the exercise. :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks cupcake thats a good idea. I will write them in notes on my phone and keep looking at them and remind myself why I want to do this. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

May as well Trisha, thats what I thought last week. I thought I can eat and put on weight, or start SnS and start losing. It just seems weird to start in a Saturday, then I thought. Why not? So I did and a week later I am 10 lbs lighter. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks Tara , yes I agree if we can back on track the damage can be kept to a minimum. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

My scales are broken!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well the battery has gone, its my weigh in day to. I think I have lost around 10lbs this first week though. I was gutted. Oh well I will see if I can find a battery today. I am at a kids party later, so I will have to resist the temptation to stuff crisps...

Number 2 is an added bonus lol ;-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Same with me Borders Girl. The food goes down just as nicely as before. Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Betty. Sorry to here you are leaving SnS. I can understand how you feel and hope you feel better on Atkins. Please pop back from time to time after all we all have a common goal , much of the feelings etc are common to all diets. Good Luck, keep in touch x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Knickers to it! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Knickers to it lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hello You sound similar to me. I joined lighter life years ago. Lost loads, binged it all on. Your right ll is expensive and its hassle going to the meetings with trying to find a babysitter etc. I have been on SnS a week now, I love it. I hope you do to. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I am the same lots, my lower stomach even when thin is still going to be saggy after it was stretched in pregnancy. I did read that loose skin looks better on toned exercised muscle than loose muscle. Hmm dont know how much better though. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Moosh Good luck today. I feel hungry when in ketosis anyway I have found. I just find I get used to feeling hungry though. Well almost. x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Betty Try not to worry about your meal too much, after my blip on Tuesday. I was back on the plan yesterday and I am now the same weight as I was Tuesday morning. Just get back on plan the next day and hopefully you will be fine. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Theres a new series of supersize vs skinny on Tuesday Channel 4 8pm. Whoop! Whoop! Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi tsweety. It probably dies depend on your body shape. I hate my inner thighs. My legs go thinner but my inner thigh fat, is so stubborn. I can get to near goal and its just starting to move. It does look better than it does , than when I was bigger though. I also have bingo wings so I am...

Yea I agree Emmzi, Moosh dont listen to the haters! You can get there. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Me to lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks Betty. I know its so hard. Maybe if we can stick for a whole week we will feel better. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks my mother was laughing at me for doing that. Like I was a total geeky fool lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Tara sorry to read about your time at work. My OH is having problems to , so I know how you feel. Its a worry for the family as we obviously need money. My OH has seen a solicitor, I have also posted on forums for advice. General consensus us that only 3 percent of cases at a tribunal win a...

Oh wow cool. Did you take a picture? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I think I can hear the Percy Pigs calling me to. Must be the ones from the local m and S . Yes remember to be thin! Good advice :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done Moosh, a tiny slither shouldnt be much of a problem. Well done on not eating the other one. x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I know Kimberley. It really is , with the trainer pushing them. :-0 Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well I woke up and weighed myself and found I had lost a pound. Yay. So that was 10 lbs in five days. I ate a truffa bar for breakfast. I went to the gym, managed 40 mins , still feeling really weak. I had a warm vanilla shake for lunch. So I was doing ok. Well after school, I had arranged...

I think the USA ones have a dramatic change on the biggest loser as its on alot longer. Its very inspiring. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes its on sky one Bulging brides is also another good one. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Lol I sniff food to. I even like the smell of food I dont like normally. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yep addicted to. I even watch supersize vs skinny on 4oD. My OH has got to the point he wont watch them anymore. They are my guilty pleasure when I am on my own. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes I do interval training on the x trainer to. I do feel like I have worked harder when I do this. But only 3 mins , seems to good to be true. Lol Worth a watch though. Thanks Linda , I am putting it behind me today. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I get a sick sort of pleasure watching people eat. I am sooo weird. I do crave it though. Food porn! Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Good morning everyone Is anyone going to watch the Horizon programme "the truth about exercise" on BBC 2 at 9pm on Tuesday. It follows on from this article I found using google. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/236545/Slim-with-just-3-minutes-per-week-exercise/ Hmmm maybe I am going...

I agree with Laura , BG your losses are inspiring. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done Laurie. Thats brill! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Pinklady. I have done alot of exercise including zumba before I started SnS , however have felt weak in the gym as when I exercise. You could try it but dont put all your effort in and see if you feel ok and gradually increase it. I have fainted in the gym before on a VLCD. It was soooo...

Well done Betty x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I think they are too small and not filling. Tasty though. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Beverley You will love this diet, I am on day 5 and feeling great. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi Phoenixx. Just wanted to say hi and good luck x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Good luck x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Others have suggested putting coffee in it to. So its like a cafe latte. I may try that soon. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I just had the vanilla milkshake hot. It was soooo nice, alot nicer than having it cold. Yum yum!!! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes I agree with weasey. I used to workout two hours a day with cardio and weights. Since starting a VLCD this week, I have felt so lethargic in the gym and only managed 40 mins at a slow pace. It is possible but You dont want to pass out. Maybe try it slowly to start and build it up again...

Thats really good , especially as you ate out aswell. Well done. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Brilliant Pink lady, thats awesome. You have inspired me to keep on going. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Good Luck Kelstar keep going, even if your not in Ketosis your probably still losing weight. I know this doesn't help the hunger, but keep on going and you will get there soon. Must admit, I am on day 5 and my stomach is rumbling right now. Its not even lunch time. Off to get a coke zero. :-)...

Lol Good one! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Phoenix you are doing great. I do know what you mean, I dont think I have ever stuck to any plan for over two weeks without cheating a little. Hoping to succeed this time though. We can do it! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

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Good luck Jackie x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done Laura. Thats really good. x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Sorry tsweety, I am using an app on phone and it doesnt show the weights of people. So I didnt see until I logged on on my laptop. Maka is right, put the scales away .just weigh weekly for now. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hi tsweety. Yes if you keep sticking you will lose weight. Some people just lose weight a bit slower, but all of a sudden you may start to lose a good amount. Have you got much to lose? Good luck, keep going, you will get there x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks I did wonder. They dont seem the best quality. X Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

How dark should the stick actually be to be in Ketosis? Is too far too dangerous?Confused. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Good Luck. If you struggle just post on here for support. We have all felt the same. The weight loss is so worth it though. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Phoenix that is sooo funny! 13lbs wow!!! You would be a whole stone lighter if you were flat chested. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

You did it? Brill, I have no scales. Will have to try the other half method. Ok done, 7lbs. OH thinks I have lost the plot. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Lol! If he takes the weight of them , may give a rough guide . Probs not very accurate though. Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I know, I found it in sainsburys. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Without coke and cups of tea. I would really struggle. Tried the Doc pepper zero today to. Similar to the real thing. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Ahh awesome. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes do know what you mean. I stare at my OH food like a begging dog sometimes. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Stand on scales and get OH to hold them , and see what new weight is!! ROFL Guess its not exactly science fact though. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I did have an urge just to shove some in my mouth. However I sometimes find making nice food for someone else , helps a tiny bit with cravings. Weird! Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

When I was alot bigger, my weight loss went down over the course of the day. It was awesome. Now it rises though. :-0 Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I do know what you mean. Maybe try and come up with a few excuses. Such as your checking for food intolerances. So not eating certain foods, or dont admit its a VLCD, say you get a huge meal on an eve. Like slimfast. They would never know. I do understand what you mean though. Sent from my...

Elemental, I think everyone needs a break now and then, the challenge is what you do after. I have done most of my eating damage days after an event. If you can get straight back on the horse, then I think that is the road to success. I know what you mean about telling people, my family...

Thats good, considering what you ate. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Brilliant Kelstar, well done. Two stone in six weeks! Wowsers. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks. I think its only because I can watch tv and zone out. I also do a bit of fast intervals for a minute every so Often, then coast a bit. So it seems to go quicker. Today though, I was moving like a sloth. Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

That much? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oh! Sounds yum.

What are these tetras?? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

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Yes 250 for the shakes and the meals , I put the lowest value it recommends , diff for each meal, so its thicker and more meal like. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Betty, I found the same with the shakes and the meals. I made them too watery. I have made them again, and I found its defo better to go with the lower amount. The Hazelnut shake was soo nice with 250 ml. Wasnt keen on the Vanilla either. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes Exactly! :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I know the feeling, but think of a hot summers day and how much better it will feel to be wearing nice clothes, feeling cool and not being uncomfy. It is very hard though. I am on Day 4, and not half as hungry as day 1 and 2. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Keep positive, ride the wave and it will pass. Brush your teeth and paint your nails.. Jump up and down anytging to take yoyr mind off it. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well today, I decided to try the gym. I have spent the last six months, going 5 times a week and doing 1h 20 on the x trainer and then weights. I still put on weight with binging, so I must have ate loads. Well, I know I did. I hadnt been in a week, and I felt soo weak, it was so hard. I...

Lol so true, its like a caffeine addiction, is weighing lol The euphoric side effect is so true.lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

miniMoosh, exactly! Food is everywhere , and every VLCD will take will power. We cant wrap ourselves in cotton wool and hibernate for the duration. As tempting as that sounds. Lol Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Lol my daughter likes the scotch ones to, as they are similar to the American style her dad makes. Less tempting for me, but my mam made her the crepe style this morning. Looked yum. Am glad we are allowed to talk about food on hear. I remember a few years ago on the lighter life forum, people...

Good luck and yes start today, these sort of challenges are always going to be there. Must admit, I really wanted my daughters pancake this morning. :-( Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I agree it could help me keep on track, if I havent stuck and it goes up, I can reign it in. Its when I avoid completely I go into binge mode. I dont get upset if it stays the same on a VLCD as I know in a day or two it will go down again. Maybe it is a bit obsessive though , but again its...

Oh I am the same. I was going to ask how often everybody weighs? I cant stop weighing myself every morning and sometimes at night. It actually spurs me on to see the scales go down even 0.1 pound. I know I should weigh once a week, but its too exciting to weigh everyday and I am impatient...

Good Luck Nicola , I am on Day 3 and living it already. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

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I just turned on Sky 1 , is he the hottie off 'a year to save my life'? Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

miniMoosh, glad you asked, thought I was missing something. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks Borders Girl, a much better answer. :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I am not sure, maybe its to give your body a rest , and not too dependant on la liquid diet, and sometimes eating more, kick starts the metabolism. I dont know the real answer though. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Yes when we did lite, there is no need for a doctors note, as there is still a protein meal you are eating each day. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well maybe just try and make the best of it. Eat more of the proteins and veg and try to limit the amount of carbs. Someone said to me thin people push food around there plate and dont actually eat much, I am not sure if this us true , but maybe try and eat smaller portions and exercise. If...

Brill loss , well done :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Ahhh cool, my OH was working near there to. At BUPA I think. Small world. Yes I will, I will have to convince him first . Me and my daughter had a great time on the beach there. We loved it. Yes I want to defo be thin by August. I can face another uncomfortable summer. Sent from my iPhone...

Six courses yum! The sick full feeling isnt nice though. I never realised it was made here, OH worked in Brighton for six months last year to, staying in Jurys Inn,near the station. If only he had known. We are now up North, I will have to suggest a summer visit when I am thin. Lol :-) Sent...

Thanks Donjon, yes your probably right. I dont want to faint. I have just had a shake and feel loads better. I was probably dehydrated from sleeping. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Day 3 I woke up feeling a bit dizzy today , used the keto stick it is definitely pink. I had a cup of coffee and felt alot better and some water. I am craving the Hazelnut shake, so I am off to make it now. I usually go to the gym when I drop my daughter at nursery , but feeling a bit weak ...

Good luck BrightonBetty I think the protein route will be best. I cant believe you make sour dough bread , my OH is from the USA and he has been looking for this since he moved here ten years ago. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Awesome Thanks Maka x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I would start to. Get into focus, you will reach your target a few days earlier. The pain may take your mind off the hunger. :-0 Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks miniMoosh and Borders girl. Your right , compared to what I can eat when off track then 60 cals isnt much. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks starlight. Its just me and my daft head. If I think I can have 800 cals then I can plan meals and snacks in my head which may not be as healthy, or think why cant I eat qourn and veg four times a day. I just seem to be able to stay focused if its lower and just use 135 cals on a shake...

Thanks again guys. Yes your right its probably possible to tweak the diet in many ways and it still work. Guess we all have to find what works for us individually. The BL bars do sound tasty though. I may give one a try as I think the SnS ones are tiny. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks miniMoosh. I posted before I read your replies. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I just did a similar thing. 65 seems alot of extra calories to me and is verging on the same as Exante and celeb slim. 200 cals sees alot rather than a shake if 135, or is that too obsessive. I then start to think, if I can have another 60 cals , could I eat egg whites and laughing cow light...

I know. I love the slop! Lol Very tasty. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I love them both. Though my OH looked at me in disbelief like I was eating slop. They do taste better than they look. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Great losses at week 7 , is awesome. Well done, this diet is great x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks. I just tried it and it wasn't spicy, phew! Actually writing this , I can feel a bit of after burn on my tongue but nothing to put me off. It was actually really nice. :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks pinklady that does sound very yummy. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Well done, I just read through all your weight losses. Your inspiring me. You have done brilliant. x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thank you. I will give it a try for lunch and check it out. Balloon lips, yes I know the feeling , the burn! Gosh brave to add flakes. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I ordered the spag bog after reading the SnS website and there is no mention that it is spicy. However on receiving the packs it says on them spicy spag bog. Is it spicy? I hate anything spicy at all, I cant even put pepper in scrambled eggs. Thanks x Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Hello. I have just woken up for the first time in months without the dreaded food hangover. I actually wanted to get out of bed and not get dragged out by my 3 year old. I know I shouldnt have, but it was too tempting. I jumped on the scales. I had lost 6lbs from yesterday morning. It just...

I had it for the first time today and wanted more. It was quite nice. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thanks Everyone and yes nothing looks like it does on the tin in life. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

I just had the cottage pie and quite enjoyed it, but how thick should it be? I found it like a gruel type , thick soup with chunks. It didn't look much like the picture on the website. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

However I am on day 1 now and absolutely starving! A coke zero is stopping me from cracking. Well at least tomorrow I wont wake up with a food hangover for the first time in months. :-) Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Oooo yes I remember some of those from When I did lighter-life. Tasty. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

Thats good then, as its good to drink if ever out with family or friends. Pity coke zero isnt available in pubs. Sent from my iPhone using MiniMins

It is yes , but I agree it stops me wanting other things and stops me raiding the fridge. Fills me up, even if falsely. When I did lighter life lite, i drank Diet coke constantly and lost four stone. So I guess it depends really. I will try sticking with the tea and water for now but will have...

Thanks , yes I will keep my own portion of milk in the fridge. I also love the fact that you can have coke zero to. Tea and coke zero make it so much more bearable and will help me focus.

Thank you , I am loving the Hazelnut shake so far.

Thank you. I think that will make a great difference to me as it tea and coffee taste so much better and fill me up.

Thank you.

I read that we can have milk with the crispy shakes. Can we have skimmed milk with coffee and tea instead of the shakes or doesn't it work like that? Thanks.

Ok thanks I will try that. I have ordered a frother thing off eBay but its not here yet.

Thanks. Crushed ice, thats a good idea.

Hello everyone, Thanks for your replies in such a short space of time. These forums seem so supportive. I just had my first Hazelnut shake for breakfast. It was delicious. I was really surprised.

Hello everyone. I am about to start slim and save today. I am sooo excited. I am sick of feeling like a fat sloth. Part psychological , maybe,but its how I feel. I lost four stone on lighter life lite after having my daughter. A stone crept on then I rejoined last year and lost a stone that I...