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  1. gobubbles

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    If like me you're not there yet and wondering what happens in detail, here's what I've found on this 2007 blog: Inane ramblings (just ignore me): Search results for lighter life BTW, Would you like this post as a sticky?
    First to second week is three packs plus one protein meal for £49.50, third to eighth week is two packs daily plus meal and snack for £33.00; weeks nine to twelve is one pack daily and three meals for £16.50.

    Week 1
    1 meal, 3 foodpacks, 4 litres of water – £49
    Chicken (skinless)
    Cottage cheese (plain) choose the lowest fat option
    Egg whites, hard boiled
    Fish, any, fresh, frozen or tinned in water/brine
    Quorn, plain
    Shellfish, any
    Tofu, plain, any
    Turkey, skinless

    From day three there is a large list of herbs/spices which can be added, plus a selection of condiments, sauces and dressings. Additionally from day three you can also choose from a selection of green raw vegetables.

    Herbs and spices
    Various including Curry powder; Paprika; Garlic; Mustard; Mixed herbs; Chives.

    Condiments, dressings, sauces etc.
    Various including Balsamic vinegar; Lemon and Lime juices; Milk - skimmed; Tabasco sauce; Soy sauce; Tabasco sauce.

    Raw salad
    Cabbage; Celery; Chicory; Cress, Endive; Lettuce; Spinach; watercress and other mixed salad leaves.
    Week 2
    1 meal + snacks, 3 foodpacks, 3 litres of water – £49

    From Wednesday you can add virtually fat free dips, low cal/diet drinks, and sugar free jelly plus more salad and veg (eat raw), and some dairy including fromage frais and yoghurt. You can now add a snack, for example dip with cucumbers and peppers up to 225g.

    Additional condiments, dressings, sauces etc.
    Dips - virtually fat free; Drinks - low calorie/diet; Sugar-free jelly

    Additional salad and vegetables (raw)
    Broccoli; Cauliflower; Courgette; Cucumber, Fennel; Mangetout; Mushroom; Pepper - sweet, any colour; Radish; Spring Onion

    Very low-fat dairy products and dairy-free alternatives
    Dairy: Curd cheese eg. quark; Fromage frais; Skimmed milk; Yoghurt
    Dairy-free alternatives: Rice milk; Soya fromage frais; Soya milk; Soya yoghurt
    Week 3
    1 meal + snacks,
    2 foodpacks, 3 litres of water – £33
    Loads more choices! Red meats (lean, all sorts); lots of fresh fruits; tomatoes (fresh, tinned, passata); cooking sauces (very low fat or fat free), soya mince.

    Additional protein
    Lean Bacon; lean Beef; whole Eggs; Game; lean Ham; Kidney; lean Lamb; Liver; lean Pork; Offal (tongue, heart, sweetbreads, oxtail); Quinoa; Soya mince; Tempeh, Veal, Venison

    Additional condiments, dressings, sauces etc.
    Cooking sauces (shop-bought, fat-free or virtually fat-free)

    Additional salad
    Tomato (fresh, tinned, passata and purée)

    Fruit
    Apple; Blackberries; black, red, whitecurrants; Blueberries; Cherries; Clementine; Damson; Fruit salad; Grapefruit; Grapes; Kiwi; Kumquat; Lemon; Lime; Lychee; Mandarin orange; Nectarine; Orange; Passion fruit; Peach; Pear; Plum; Pomegranate; Raspberries; Rhubarb; Satsuma; Sharon fruit; Strawberries; Tangerine; 100 per cent fruit juice; Fresh fruit smoothie
    Week 4
    1 meal + snacks, 2 foodpacks, 3 litres of water - £33

    From today you can cook my fruit and veg and add onions, spring greens, kale, beansprouts, leek and other stuff.

    Additional salad and vegetables
    Artichoke; Asparagus; Aubergine; Bean Sprouts, Brussels Sprouts, Greens (spring greens); Kale; Kohirabi; Leek, Marrow; Mooli (daikon radish); Okra; Onion; Pak-choi (Chinese leaves); Shallots; Swiss chard

    The best news of all though: you can cook your veg and fruit if you wish!
    Week 5
    2 meals + snacks, 2 foodpacks, 3 litres of water - £33

    Carrots are back on the agenda, as is sweetcorn and beetroot, among others. Alcohol is too! Soup, low fat, even the 'cup-a-soup' variety, and olives. Increase to two protein meals a day, plus more veg and fruit.

    Additional salad and vegetables
    Beetroot; Carrot; Celeriac; Green banana; Parsnip; Plantain; Pumpkin; Squash, Swede, Sweetcorn, Sweet potato; Taro; Turnip; Yam

    Additional condiments, dressings, sauces etc.
    Fat-free or virtually fat-free soup

    Additional fruit
    Olives

    NEW! Alcohol
    Dry champagne; Liqueurs for cooking only; Dry sherry for cooking only; Any spirits, Red wine; Dry white wine
    Week 6
    2 meals + snacks, 2 foodpacks, 2 and a half litres of water - £33

    Bananas, pineapple and peaches are back!

    Additional fruit, including any dried
    Apricot; Avocado; Banana; dried Cranberries; Currants; Date; Fig; Mango; Melon; dried Mixed fruit; Papaya; Pineapple; Prunes; Raisins; Sultanas

    NEW! Nuts and seeds for cooking only
    Almond; Brazil; Cashew; Hazlenut; Hempseeds; Linseeds; Macadamia; Peanut; Pecan; Pine nuts; Pistachio; Pumpkin seeds; Sesame seeds; Sunflower seeds; Walnut

    Additional condiments; dressings; sauces etc.
    Marmite

    Nothing too exciting there, but you could have parma ham and melon now. Raisins are cool too.
    Week 7
    2 meals + snacks, 2 foodpacks, 2 and a half litres of water - £33

    Beans, pulses, peas, lentils.

    Pulses

    Aduki beans; Baked beans; Black/turtle beans; Black-eyed peas or beans; Borlotti beans; Broad beans; Butter beans; Cannellini beans; Chickpeas; Garden peas; Fine beans; Flageolet beans; Flat beans; French beans; Green beans; Haricot beans, Kidney, Lentils, Mangetout; Mung beans; Pigeon peas; Pinto bans; Romano beans; Runner beans; Split peas; Stick beans; String beans; Soya beans; Sugar-snap peas; Yellow wax beans
    Week 8 - staples trigger week
    2 meals + snacks, 2 foodpacks, 2 litres of water - £33

    Rice (all kinds), potatoes, couscous, pasta, and noodles.

    Day 1-6: Staples - pasta, noodles, couscous, potatoes, casava, rice (NB. trigger foods can only be added to one of your two meals per day).

    Day 7: No trigger foods - choose only from baselines foods

    Rice
    Basmatic rice; Black rice; Brown rice; Camargue red rice; Easy-cool white rice; Jasmine white Thai rice; Long-grain rice; Risotto rice; Short-grain rice; White rice; Wild rice

    Starchy veg
    Cassava; Potato

    Other
    Couscous; Pasta; Noodles
    Week nine £16.50
    Barley, oats, breakfast cereals for six days. Three meals a day plus snacks, and down to one foodpack a day (£16.50 a week) and two litres of water.
    Week ten £16.50
    Cheese.
    Week eleven £16.50
    Bread.
    Week 12 £16.50
    Snacks e.g. sweets, chocolate, crisps, jam, nuts.
     
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    this is so so helpful. thanks a million for posting this! x
     
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    This is great - have been searching for ages what I can have on what weeks on RtM. Only 12 days away from RtM now and was getting nervous to what I can eat and when.
     
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    Ooooooooooooooooooooh Its So Exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    THANK YOU gobubbles! This is sooooooo helpful! DebG and Alibongo haev been providing me with all the information as well! I am on RTM and support myself, my LLC doesn't do anything, (will be finishing with her soon, hopefully as she will be quitting LLC soon). I have recently got in touch with a new LLC and am waiting for her to get back to me!

    However i don't know if i am losing weight or what, i feel like my tummy as gone out a bit, but then i think i have only lost a little bit of weight). I am on week 3 in RTM (will be starting week 4 this wednesday).

    I was told to have 3 foodpacks, 1 protein meal, 1 yogurt, 3-4 pieces of fruit and 3 litres of water, but u have mentioned 2 foodpacks, just wanted to check that!
     
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    Hi Slimeseaa,

    Happy it helps, although I can't say if you should be having 2 or 3 foodpacks in week 4. Ali, Deb (and anybody else on RTM) what do you say?

    I read about your LLC - really appalling!!! It really does you credit that you've got as far as you've got all alone - you should have dumped her ages ago! Hope the new LLC is better. And if you're still struggling getting hold of the books, they are for sale on ebay. But you should really get them from your LLC cosidering you've been paying for the full service without getting it...

    Good luck! x
     
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    I could live on the week 1 food!
     
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    Me too, Mikey! :D
     
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    Hi Slim
    It is 2 foodpacks from week 3, it then goes down to 1 in week 9.
     
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    Thanks for letting me know, I have been having 3! :( I knew i wasn't losing any weight, will hopefully be getting weighed tonight, so will let you know!

    Guys can i just check that i am not eating too much!

    I am in week 3 (will be starting week 4 tomorrow)- this is what i have been eating:

    2 soups & 1 cereal bar (obviously now will do 2 Foodpacks as of today)

    1 tub 150g Total 0% Greek Yogurt

    1 Apple,

    1-2 Clementines,

    1 Plum

    10-15 strawberries

    1 protein salad dinner- Leaf salad, half of green pepper, half of yellow pepper, half of red pepper (all sliced), approx 5-6 cauliflower florets, 3-4 spring onions, 2 celerey sticks (sliced), basalmic vinegar and french dressing.

    3 litres of water

    Is this too much? Sorry to keep checking, but i don't think im losing much weight and wanted to check, as my LLC isn't good at all and am waiting for another LLC to get back to me whether i can join with her!

    I have started exercising again, so on Sunday lost 16o cals on cross trainer, will be doing it again today and built the levels up so i can aim for 250 cals loss!

    Pls advise me if this is too much what i am eating as i don't know.

    I haven't even made any sugar free jelly as i am scared that will be even more!

    Also how much yogurt is everyone eating? Say for Total %, 150g, do you all stickl to the 1 tub?
     
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    Hi Slim
    Don't worry about having the extra food pack, I am sure it won't have effected you too much.

    protein/salad meal looks fine.
    I probably only have 1-2 yogs a day now, but was having 2-3 back in week 4.
    The fruit is just about right. I would try to stick to 3 servings per day. That is maybe 3.5 you have there, I wouldn't sweat it too much, you are only talking a few cals, but I wouldn't go over every day.

    What I was eating week 3 was
    breakfast = fruit and yog
    lunch = small salad (you can have your veg snack at any time so I liked having mine for lunch)
    afternoon = tea and LL muffin
    dinner = protein and salad
    supper = jelly and yog

    Jelly is about 8 cals per 100g so don't put off having it, it is a real life saver and lovely with the greek yoghurt.

    You can start cooking your fruit and veg from week 4, so that opens things up a lot.

    Don't forget you are only eating very low cal just now and you do need to up the cals each week gradually building it up from the 500 to around 2000. You need to do it gradually to allow your metabolism to stabilise.
    This is roughly what I worked it out as
    Week 1 add 100 = 600 per day
    Week 2 add 100 = 700 per day
    Week 3 add 100 = 800 per day
    Week 4 add 100 = 900 per day
    Week 5 add 100 = 1000 per day
    Week 6 add 100 = 1100 per day
    Week 7 add 100 = 1200 per day
    Week 8 add 150 = 1350 per day
    Week 9 add 150 = 1500 per day
    Week 10 add 150 = 1650 per day
    Week 11 add 150 = 1800 per day
    Week 12 add 200 = 2000 per day
     
  14. Slimseaa

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    Thanks Alex,

    That has really helped a lot! So can i just check, are you eating 2 tubs of the Total 0% Greek Yogurt 150g daily! So 300g in total?

    Also for the veg snack what do you eat? Is that just the 1 snack, as i don't have that, i just have my veggy/salad/protein for dinner! Just wanted to know what my options would be. So I know i could have my soup with a veg snack!

    With the jelly and yogurt is that 1 sachet of jelly with 1 tub of yogurt?

    Thanks for your help, really appreciate it, looking forward to hearing from you!
     
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    I actually buy the 500g tubs, but probably get through about 200/250g per day. A serving is classed as 1 small pot, which is usually around 120g I believe, so 250 to 300 per day would probably be ok.
    I would just make sure you don't push everything to the limit. If you are having 3-4 fruit then limit the yog to 1-2 at this stage.

    I probably get through about 1 sachet of jelly in 2 days, maybe slightly more, but there is nothing to it, you can have as much as you like. I usually have 100g jelly with about 75g yoghurt. If I have the yoghurt with fruit, say for breakfast, then I would probably have 150g of yog.

    You can have your veg with your dinner and then a veg snack as well, I always had mine as a salad at lunchtime rather than a snack, LLC was totally fine with that. It doesn't matter when you have your snack. I like having 3 meals a day, so having fruit and yog for breakfast, salad for lunch with a soup, then a protein meal for dinner worked well for me. I would have a bar for supper or a latte with a vanilla pack.
    This is my last week with packs, thank goodness, can't say I will miss them. Adios :wavey:
     
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    Awesome, thankls Alex, which fruit do u recommend eating personally?

    Also what veggy snack do you have at lunch time and how many?

    So cool, i may have 2 pots of Total Greek fat yogurt (they are 150g each), may have 2 a day!
     
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    Always so helpful - cheers Ali! :hug99:
     
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    I would try everything on the list for that week and eat what you like best, i love berries, plums (these are really nice stewed in orange juice and eaten hot with yoghurt), apples, I often get tinned fruit cocktail in juice and other tinned fruit too.

    For lunch I have whatever I fancy really from the veg list, just stick to the weight limit of 250g this week, it goes up to 500g limit in week 5, and you can start making it into soup.

    I think from week 4 it starts to get a bit more exciting with being able to cook your fruit and veg. Instead of salad for lunch you could have a veggie stir fry.

    Did you manage to get an RTM book yet? If not I could lend you mine as I finish this week.
     
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    Hi Alex, thank you hun! Your gr8 you are, a true star! :)

    Will let you know about the book, may need to take you up on that offer! Did speak to the other LLC yesterday and she said that she isn't taking anyone on now and has no on on RTM at all (they just finished). I asked her if I can get hold of the books and she said that she will let me know by Friday and if so, then i can collect by Friday (so will let you know).

    Right now, your my only BOOK, lol!

    Yesterday i ate:

    2 oranges,
    1 apple,
    1 plum
    15 strawberries
    2 Total yogurts
    2 Foodpacks
    Protein/Salad

    I increased my total yogurt to 2 tubs, so 300g a day, however i think its around 150cals? Is that right.

    I will only try to stick to 3-4 fruit from today! But cos i have been constipated, i am trying to have that little bit extra, so it will help me!

    Don't think i have lost any weight, will be getting weighed tomorrow night, will let you know!

    Last night i worked out on my Crosstrainer and burnt off 201 Cals in 22 mins. Will be doing the same again today, am trying to build up my exercise regime as i still have under 2 stones to lose and want to just lose that gradually now through healthy eating and exercise.

    Cos i don't have that RTM book, what veggy snacks can we munch on for lunch and how many?
     
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    The total 0% is 52 cals per 100g, so yes 300g would be 150 cals.
    I had a constipation problem in the first few weeks, I found a glass of OJ or plums are very good for that.


    What week are you on? Are you still on 3 or have you started 4 yet?
     
  21. Slimseaa

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    Hi Ali, i have started week 4 today, but there is nothing really that i would probably want from week 4, so i will just stick to my week 1-3 food only.

    Would it be ok to have a small tin of Tuna with a dessert spoon of Cottage cheese?

    So Ali in your opinion shall i just stick to the 1 x Total 150g only, rather than 2 per day (as i only had 2 1st time ever yesterday)?

    Also i still haven't drank anything else apart from water, (as i don't think tea, coffee, etc).

    Which orange juice do you recommend, my Hubby has been buying these juices from Tescos lately i think they are 100% pressed juice i don't know, what juice can we drink? which is the best one Calorie wise and would you recommend just the 1 glass per day?

    Are we allowed to drink diluted sugar free juice, that you can mix with water?

    Until i get that RTM book, i should be more better at this- Sorry all :(
     
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