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GI instead of rtm?

#1
Hi everyone, as some of you may know. I'm really strting to struggle. I've been abstinent since jan and it's now making me miserable.
I 've weighed up the pros and cons of finishing properly and continuing onto rtm and finishing early and starting something else.
The low GI diet really appeals to me, I don't feek that I get much out of the cbt that comes with ll so i will not miss the meetings.
I suppose the main question is, if I started a low GI diet tomorrow, would I rebound and out weight on? I know I'm asking a lot but it's just too much now, I'm crying a lot and missing out on social occassions because i can't handle them.
All advice is greatly appreciated.:cry:
 
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#2
Chin up ...

Hi Snanna

I do sympathise as like you I couldn't really do the social thing either, some can and that's great but some of us just cant.

I removed myself from many social situations and whilst I didn't feel too bad about it at the time, when I "re-emerged" I had alot of comments that I wasn't myself and lots of conerned people worried that I was ok. I then realised that I had been quite down and it has taken me a few weeks to get back to my usual bubbly self.

Having said all that I don't regret anything and would do it all the same again as I think I may have lapsed and blown it if I had continued to socialise normally.

Hopefully this is just a temporary blip for you but you are doing the right thing by not ignoring how you are feeling. My advise would be not to make a snap decision as you have done so well and to do the "wrong thing" now after you have worked so hard would be a terrible shame.

My honest opinion is that if you just went straight onto low GI then yes you will gain weight .... RTM introduces different food in a particular order slowly so that your body can get used to everything and slowly increase your metabolism .... so if you are really set on low GI then you need to get hold of some RTM books along with all your low GI info and tailor it based on RTM .... however RTM is based on low GI so if you link it to RTM then really it's going to be RTM (does that make sense lol!). Some foods are very low GI so clearly its best to stick to them initially as if you went for the higher low GI foods then first off then I think you could have a problem.

Once you are a couple of weeks into RTM then a whole new world of being able to eat out again will open up to you ... yes you have to be a little picky but I and many have managed just fine.

Sending hugs hun ... you clearly need a bit of tlc at the moment but don't loose sight of how far you've come and what you have acheived.

x
 
#3
Hello,

I'm back on LL. I did not do the RTM because I thought I could just go on another diet, ATKINS. It didn't work the way I thought it would. I struggled because I was on my own and honestly I didn't know what to eat really even though I was seeing my GP and going to the gym a lot. Slowly and surely the weight came back on. Now I'm right where I have started. I know it's hard to be abstinent for so long but if you think about it it's only a small fraction of time compared to all the time you'll have being thin and happy...
Hope it helps.
 
#4
hi
i have bought a couple of gl cookbooks and intend to try and stick to this way of eating eventually- but only after RTM as i need to feel i have done the programme fully - and i want the security of still attending weigh ins which will be free if i do.

i think by jumping straight to Gl i would not be learning about portion control and also the mix of food too soon might mess up my metabolism and my glycogen might go back on too quickly?

i might be wrong, but after 20+ weeks of abstinence i'm not willing to risk anything as i don't want to put my body through it again

daisy x
 

sukie sue

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#5
hi there , ask yourself how you will feel 3 , 6 or 12 months from now if you give up ?
you can either carry on for a very short time now , as soon as youre in week 1 rtm you can eat out although youre choices are limited, you do have that option ,or you can give up on ll now and you dont know how it will turn out , will you do ok ? will you , like most fail ?
so question yourself how you will feel if you fail ? to have to go again when you are almost there now would be heartbreaking for you. try to hold out hunnie , it really is the best way , you wont need to wonder or guess what will happen , just like the last few months , you know it will work.
i know youve thought about doing rtm early and that is a better option than deviating off plan altogether , but most who did rtm sooner than planned end up having to go back again and regret the decision . so i know im probably no help at all but i did ask myself this around the same time on abstinence a few years ago and im sooooo glad i chose to continue .
hope you sort it hunnie , top to bottom of it is that you simply have to do what is best for you , its just up to you whether you do it for the you of right now or the future you that will be living with youre decision right or wrong xxxxxxx
 

mikey

Silver Member
#6
If you are going to do it - GL is a better bet than GI - GI has a flaw in that it does not take into account the amount of carbohydrate that there is in a particular food. This means that GI allows some foods that are not good - but prohibits others that are good.

GL (Glycemic Load) works by taking into account the amount of carbohydrates in a food portions we eat, whereas GI is different as it uses a laboratory test reference that can't be related to portion sizes, Using GI, 50g of rice has the same low GI score as 750g of rice!
 
#7
If you are going to do it - GL is a better bet than GI - GI has a flaw in that it does not take into account the amount of carbohydrate that there is in a particular food. This means that GI allows some foods that are not good - but prohibits others that are good.

GL (Glycemic Load) works by taking into account the amount of carbohydrates in a food portions we eat, whereas GI is different as it uses a laboratory test reference that can't be related to portion sizes, Using GI, 50g of rice has the same low GI score as 750g of rice!

i meant to add this on - def GL rather than GI
daisy x
 

mikey

Silver Member
#8
A couple of examples that show that GI is wrong are as follows:

GI lists Melon as very bad - a GI of 65 - however Melon is only 6% carbohydrate so the net effect on blood sugar is very low and it is therefore a good food to eat. You can eat a lot of it without raising blood sugar much.

GI also lists Fructose (Fruit sugar) as good! with a GI of 20, but as it is 100% carbohydrate it is actually bad! You can only eat a tiny amount without raising your blood sugar a lot.
 

mikey

Silver Member
#10
I have attached a spreadsheet I put together a couple of years ago to hilight the differences between GI and GL!


The colours have disappeared in the conversion to csv so I have created it as a pdf too (XLS is not a valid format for upload to this forum!)
 

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mikey

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#11
Having said that it is best to do RTM I think and you are able to start eating some foods on RTM.
 
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