Is this extreme dieting?

Discussion in 'Slimming World' started by HellieCopter, 13 May 2009 Social URL.

  1. HellieCopter

    HellieCopter Gold Member

    Posts:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    219
    Start Weight:
    13st2.5lb
    Current Weight:
    10st9lb
    Goal Weight:
    9st10lb
    Lost(%):
    2st7.5lb(19.24%)
    Diet:
    Slimming World
    I saw a friend last night and she's lost quite a lot of weight. She's petite (about 5ft) and had about 3 stone to lose - 2 of which have now gone. She definitely looks great, but she's done it by sticking to 800 calories a day. And that's with a dieting club (local to her).

    I was absolutely shocked!

    800 is nothing...like...starvation! I don't know how she does it.

    To me, that seems extremely low. I thought the body needed about 1200-1500 for a steady 1-2lb weight loss? Not that I know a lot about calorie controlled dieting, I've always done WW or SW...but still...

    I just wanted to share and get your thoughts...

    H x
     
  2. Avatar

    MiniMins.com Matched Content

  3. Rachella

    Rachella Silver Member

    Posts:
    931
    Likes Received:
    29
    Start Weight:
    14st13lb
    Current Weight:
    10st13lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st10lb
    Lost(%):
    4st0lb(26.79%)
    Diet:
    Calorie counting and shakes
    erm that's crazy... I bet she can't say she's been that 'happy' doing it has she? Has she basically cut out all alcohol and eating at restaurants as well?
     
  4. LisaC

    LisaC Gold Member

    Posts:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    24
    Start Weight:
    17st0lb
    Current Weight:
    17st0lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st6lb
    Lost(%):
    0st0lb(0%)
    You know the expression 'desperate times call for desperate measures'...well I did the same as your friend 2 years ago except I did it alone & only ate about 500 calories a day at the most. Its extremely difficult to consume such a low number.

    Id always read around 1100-1200 was the abs least you should have so Im pretty shocked a 'diet club' would recommend such a low figure...!
     
  5. jaylou

    jaylou Gold Member

    Posts:
    10,819
    Likes Received:
    380
    Wow, does she have any energy at all? I dont think I could function on that, I'd be such a grumpy mare (well grumpier than usual!).

    She needs to be careful when she's lost it all and goes onto whatever maintenance she's going to do, it'll all pile back on!
     
  6. NN89

    NN89 Sexy Member

    Posts:
    626
    Likes Received:
    17
    Start Weight:
    16st1lb
    Current Weight:
    14st9lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st10lb
    Lost(%):
    1st6lb(8.89%)
    Diet:
    WeightWatchers
    Im not a qualified nurse yet- but i do know that if a patient was just eating 800 calories a day, we'd be very concerned and may get fortisips prescribed (a drink with loads of nutrients)
     
  7. HellieCopter

    HellieCopter Gold Member

    Posts:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    219
    Start Weight:
    13st2.5lb
    Current Weight:
    10st9lb
    Goal Weight:
    9st10lb
    Lost(%):
    2st7.5lb(19.24%)
    Diet:
    Slimming World
    I'm glad it's not just me that thinks this is extreme and not a healthy way to lose weight.

    500 cals Lisa?! What did you eat?!

    I tried to tell her that it was dangerous to be so low and she'd need to be careful when she starts increasing her calories again...but she's just happy to be losing. I can understand that, especially as sw is pretty slow for me. But I tell you what, I'd rather be doing it the way we all are than on 800 calories...
     
    jaylou likes this.
  8. little*red

    little*red Don't worry, be happy :)

    Posts:
    514
    Likes Received:
    24
    Start Weight:
    11st12lb
    Current Weight:
    9st0lb
    Goal Weight:
    7st12lb
    Lost(%):
    2st12lb(24.1%)
    Diet:
    Clean eating
    The thing is at 800 calories a day she may be losing weight howver a lot of that weight will not be pure body fat. I suspect she will lose a lot of muscle aswell eating so little, which unfortunatley means once she starts to maintain that her metabolism will be a lot slower and she will find she will need to eat less than someone who has lost the weight more slowly to maintain her goal weight.
     
    jaylou likes this.
  9. crimson_noir

    crimson_noir Full Member

    Posts:
    273
    Likes Received:
    11
    Start Weight:
    12st6lb
    Current Weight:
    11st12lb
    Goal Weight:
    8st6lb
    Lost(%):
    0st8lb(4.6%)
    Diet:
    Slim and save
    It is deff too low but then people on the shakes like lighter life manage and they are about 500 cals a day.
    What she will find when she starts to eat normally again is that she will gain for a while so she may be enjoying it now but she won't in a few months.

    Does she get any sort of free foods that maybe pushing the calorie count up higher than 800?
     
  10. judimac

    judimac Mad old Bat with Attitude

    Posts:
    5,247
    Likes Received:
    182
    Start Weight:
    14st5lb
    Diet:
    WW
    Plus that when you start to lose muscle, you lose it from ALL muscle, and that includes the heart! This is why they stopped having people in hospital on ultra low cal diets,in the 70's because the heart attack rate was so high.
     
  11. HellieCopter

    HellieCopter Gold Member

    Posts:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    219
    Start Weight:
    13st2.5lb
    Current Weight:
    10st9lb
    Goal Weight:
    9st10lb
    Lost(%):
    2st7.5lb(19.24%)
    Diet:
    Slimming World
    No free foods, well not that I can tell. I didn't have time to go into the details with her, but I think she set her own cal limit and is sticking to that. She has wine occasionally on nights out and doesn't count it in her cals...but still!
     
  12. cocktailprincess

    cocktailprincess Still rockin' it

    Posts:
    2,542
    Likes Received:
    309
    Start Weight:
    18st13lb
    Current Weight:
    10st12lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st13lb
    Lost(%):
    8st1lb(42.64%)
    Badges:
    Maintainer
    Diet:
    Slimming World - On-line member
    I think you can only be there for her and be a supportive friend. Even if you believe this choice of hers to be wrong (and I agree with you), she is an adult and it is still her choice.

    She is doing this her way and I guess that has to be respected. If this is an organised programme, then I guess you have to trust that concerns regarding nutrition are being addressed.

    It shows you are a lovely friend to be concerned, but I think if you try to pressurise her in any way about something she is very positive about, it may harm your friendship

    xxx
     
    jaylou likes this.
  13. StaceyUK

    StaceyUK Gold Member

    Posts:
    2,373
    Likes Received:
    118
    Start Weight:
    18st1.6lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st10lb
    Diet:
    Slimming World
    Yikes! My trainer a few years back told me to never go below 1300....
     
  14. jaylou

    jaylou Gold Member

    Posts:
    10,819
    Likes Received:
    380
    Stacey - your new avatar pic is lovely! x
     
  15. HellieCopter

    HellieCopter Gold Member

    Posts:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    219
    Start Weight:
    13st2.5lb
    Current Weight:
    10st9lb
    Goal Weight:
    9st10lb
    Lost(%):
    2st7.5lb(19.24%)
    Diet:
    Slimming World

    Absolutely agree with you - she's chosen to do it and I won't stop her. Definitely wouldn't pressure her to change to SW! To be honest, I only see her once a week at band rehearsals, so we're not mega close buddies.

    I've let her know if she wants any advice from a seasoned dieter then I'll help in whatever way I can, but as you say, she's chosen this way and it's working for her, which I'm pleased about...but it was so hard to hide my shock when she told me how she was doing it!
     
  16. HellieCopter

    HellieCopter Gold Member

    Posts:
    3,770
    Likes Received:
    219
    Start Weight:
    13st2.5lb
    Current Weight:
    10st9lb
    Goal Weight:
    9st10lb
    Lost(%):
    2st7.5lb(19.24%)
    Diet:
    Slimming World
    Agreed! Lovely!!!
     
  17. StaceyUK

    StaceyUK Gold Member

    Posts:
    2,373
    Likes Received:
    118
    Start Weight:
    18st1.6lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st10lb
    Diet:
    Slimming World


    Awww...thanks you two! Had it taken at my work conference at the weekend. Wore a dress for the first time in a LONG time!
     
  18. Avatar

    MiniMins.com Advert

  19. Frontier-Phil

    Frontier-Phil Silver Member

    Posts:
    1,136
    Likes Received:
    89
    Diet:
    SW-Red
    Hi

    The low calorie in take will of course result in quick loss. Hospitals do get patients pre op who need to lose to have very low intake. The but is that once the calories are increased on goes the weight very quickly. Also as mentioned muscle will be most of the loss, which is not good for the obvious reasons.

    Phil x
     
    Last edited: 14 May 2009
  20. LisaC

    LisaC Gold Member

    Posts:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    24
    Start Weight:
    17st0lb
    Current Weight:
    17st0lb
    Goal Weight:
    10st6lb
    Lost(%):
    0st0lb(0%)
    Helliecopter -

    On 500 cals I really dont know what I ate, not much I remember! It was horrible not to mention a bad route to take!

    When I started SW I couldn't understand how you can eat so much & still lose weight but shows how brilliant it is compared to cutting back/not eating. I hope your friend manages to sort things out, would be horrible if she ended up so unhealthy.
     
Popular Forums
  1. MiniMins.com is a weight loss support community helping each other on their weight loss journey. We have a multitude of forums, from Slimming World and Exante, to Success Stories. Click the logo at the top right to return to the forum home page at any time.
Loading...