Lack Of Will Power - Fair To Say?

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  1. summergurl

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    Ok, another thread about people cheating and eating!

    Would you say if you have cheated you have a lack of will power??

    I mean I dont mean to be rude and i am not aiming this at anyone specifically and if its taken the wrong way by some i appologise but seriously, if you are so determined to lose weight you wouldnt even think about cheating.

    Your health is more important than all that food that made us all big in the first place. Us getting big has resulted in us taking action by starting this extreme diet. It is not an easy task but will power and determination should be enough to see us through a few months of our lives without all the food that got us into the state we are in now.

    Food will always be there. Food will be there once you have finished LT and have a healthy body.

    Just think about this next time you think of giving in - what is more important? Having that bit of food or losing weight?
     
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    I hold my hands up and say i've cheated. But i've lost so much weight,i'm only a little overweight now and like I say in the other thread i'm bored. I wish I had never come off it over xmas then I would definately be at target. But also summergrl I know this isn't that same for everyone thats been cheating, but you may feel the same 60lbs etc down the line. Boredom may set in, I don't know if you're planning on doing Lt for your full weight loss. My tip to everyone is that if you are staying on this long term try not to break it for daft things like a night out etc, it's not worth it....stay on it as long as you possibly can in one go,it's totally not worth a break when you have to start back again.
     
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    great words of inspiration summer you are right in what you say but temptation is so great at times that i think its so verrrry hard to resist for some, i think its just breaking the habit thats so hard at times after all its just not natural to not eat at all isnt it, but i think if you are at that point of desperation to do such a extreme diet as LT you have to be in the mind set of not wanting to fail so i totally agree with what u are saying but it can be really hard at times for some people but i do think it is definately mind over matter, everyone should say to them selves i CAN do this!!and not be negative by saying i cant do this, cos straight away then you think sod it im going to eat!!! keep positive folks think thin!! lol!
     
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    Cherry i am on this untill june and i will not give in for the simple fact of what i explained above. Im so determined to do this, food is what got me to the state i am in and what has resulted in me doing this extreme diet - it just seems totally pointless to even consider eating whilst on tfr. I may get bored, but at the same time, 6months or so of boredom compared to a whole new lease of life being slim and healthy really doesnt compare!!

    Sparkle i do understand that it can be hard at times for others but like you said - Keep positive and think thin!! (i love them words!!! think i'll add it to my signature! lol)
     
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    Hi summer

    I can understand what your saying, it probably is a mind over matter thing but my cheating was because i was not feeling well, some peoples cheating has been due to not being well. I am back on track and i as much as i want to lose the weight i also dont want to be ill with the medical condition i have. the medication has side effects and are similar to LT's side effects so im having a double wammy.
    I am only on this short term compared to some of you and am determined to do it.
    Some of us do have lack of willpower which is why we are here in the first place.

    We can do this guys, do it for yourself. Like Summer said food will there when you get to target. This is all i keep thinking about. My OH was arranging a curry night and i said that i wouldnt go but now he is going to wait till his birthday and then i can have a small portion too as i would have do refeed and starting Slimming world.

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    Totally agree with you summergurl. I'm on this for at least another 4 months and am determined not to break it at all. Nights out can wait, meals out can wait but my health can't! I'm not saying I'm not tempted sometimes but I don't want to cheat and then have to start again, then repeat the pattern and not get anywhere. If I can do this in one go I will be really pleased. So far I have not broke the diet at all. Got to agree that it does get boring but what's 6 months of no food when I can have a healthier, better future.

    Good thread, may motivate some people who are struggling a bit.
     
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    the other saying i like cos i get so bored with water!! is the the more i drink the more i shrink!! lol!! x x
     
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    I have cheated twice, both pre planned meals (Christmas Day, one of my best friends baby shower). Have always been strict with myself and been straight back on the next day. Have still lost those weeks and don't feel in the slightest guilty.

    I don't pick at food and these are the only times I have broken the diet but I made the decision before the event so had already accepted that I would slow my weight loss those two weeks. So no, I don't think for me it was lack of will power, if I had decided I wouldn't eat on those occassions I wouldn't have. All other nights out I have been sipping on sparkling water in the pub or sat in a restaurant without eating.

    I still agree with you Summergurl but I have no regrets and am still as determined as I ever was!
     
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    Sounds good people!!
    It was no dig at anybody but purely motivational, for myself and you lot :D

    I to crave food, it is only a natural thing to do so when on a tfr diet but what i have said above keeps me going and keeps me strong on this. So hopefully it will for you too :D

    And thanks whoever gave me the rep power - much appreciated :D:D
     
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    Summer sorry if it sounded like I was aiming that at you. I understand being healthy is better than beng bored, what I meant was when you start losing the weight its fantastic but some people (not all) find that after 3 months of not eating at all it can get to you. Short term this diet is excellent but long term people can crack...especially when you've lost so much. But good luck if your staying on it till June,I wish you the best of luck.
     
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    Its ok sweetie i didnt get that angle at all - i can understand that people do crack and can see why they'd get bored but its like i have already said - its a matter of determination :)

    Mind over matter :)
     
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    I think that some of the problem is.. well, its the same as smoking in some ways.. you may well have smoked for years and years.. give it up for years and then find yourself smoking again.. I think alot of people who were or are obese eat for emotional reasons.. and emotions can change, over eating is an addiction also, a bad habit and learned behaviour... and like anything we may do compulsively, once you stop you can relapse due to other things going on in your life.. no matter how determined you may be on the outset.. I am not meaning to be totally negative, some people are determined to climb mount everest and fair play to them, some people may fail, and not through lack of determination, but because of other factors.. the same with 'cheating' on any diet... for instance, I 'cheated' last night, and thinking about it, as it was the first time in 6 weeks, i had some very upsetting news the day before.. it didnt affect me straight away, i stuck to it... but then i think my emotions took over my rational mind... without this upsetting news, i think my determination and 'will power' would have been as strong as anyones, to complete this diet and climb my own mount everest...
    and it was determination, in some ways, that has allowed many of us to become so over weight... how all of a sudden is it that we can control everything now through determination, yet for years and years have the determination to eat until uncomfortable, unhealthy and unhappy/
    It is not an over night process i dont think, and the hard part isnt staying on tfr, from what i have read, but going back to the real world of eating, and making the choices everyday.. not having the choice taken from us by three sachets of shakes... My determination has been very strong from the outset, yet i know that from time to time it may not be there for me, not because i wanted to cheat but because life has its ups and downs, people can fall of mount everest, hopefully to brush themselves off and start hiking again... x
     
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    I refuse to give in to my cravings because I've done it so many time's before and where did it get me? Sat on the sofa munching chocolate, crisps and all things fattening lying to myself with promises of trying harder the next day not to do it again, only to go and buy a kebab. MY way of thinking was completely foolish. Foolish because I was trying to kid myself that I wasn't pumping endless loads of calories and fat into my body. I was lying to myself when I thought I looked good. I couldn't give a monkey's uncle what people think of me aesthetically, they can come and go as they please, but I have to live with myself each day and I wan't to be happy.
    I tried LT 3 or 4 time's in the past and I'd give up each time, but I don't know, there was something inside me this time which completely snapped and part of it was when I went into the Chemist's to get the food and the staff in there looked at me as though to say "Back again?...hmmm not for long though." I developed some willpower then to stay on it because I wan't to prove to them and more over to myself that I can do this. It's for 5 months. I'm fed up of moaning about my weight, fed up of wishing I could be thin when the only person who can do anything about it, is me! So I've made a decision that cheating is not an option, that doing this for the next few months is my life. And I'm almost 2 weeks in and I've already lasted longer than previous time's put together and I'm already chuffed with that and I do feel that already I've come too far to back out now and I actually enjoy waiting for Thursdays to come because it's a wonderful journey watching my body change...once I see the change's, but it's great to know that by continuously doing this, my weight will go down and as I go down my chart the next few months, I'm going to take great delight in seeing how far I've come and knowing I worked hard for it, which will make August by far my best month of the year, for it'll be my birthday but I'll feel completely reborn because I'm starting to already. :D:D:D:D:D:D

    Ahem...sorry for the long speech lol! I get carried away sometimes. :D:D
     
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    I didnt cheat until week 4 when I got snowed in, and the Pharmacist told me to eat fish or chicken with vegetables as it wouldnt take me out of ketosis, and I really didnt want to eat (normal food) again, but I had no option.
    The 2 weeks following I ate chicken or fish and vegetables once a week and I now look on it as my treat. I am still losing average of 4lbs a week, so I am happy to continue doing this until I am off TFR.
    What works for some doesnt work for others, but I believe in the motto, dont fix it if it aint broke.
    I am not recommending this to anyone, but it works for me.
     
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    I agree with you on some of what you have said, but in my opinion honey, if you get through the first week of this diet then that shows how much will power that you have. There are so many people out there who could not and have not gotten through the first day, that its more about habit than will power.

    Take a woman who has her period, I dont know about any of you on here, but the cravings for chocolate and junk would be that bad that I would have it, I suffer very badly with mine, and the bad stuff help, its habit to grab the chocolate when it arrives, or if you usually have a takeaway at the weekend, its not just about the food, but I think most people use the takeway as a treat and it helps relax them with a few drinks.

    Staying on this for weeks on end shows that if we can do that then we can do almost anything.

    One thing I remind people who have never even tried this and think its a walk in the park is that, from the moment you are born you are taught to eat to help you grow to keep you healthy, and then bamb nothing. Its all about the mind.

    If we can do this then we can do almost anything ! !:D;)
     
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    Ok, i agree with some of what you's are saying. This diet is like climbing a mountain - if you fall off or fail, pick yourself up and try again. And well done to those who have managed this but the point of emotional eating is a huge factor as to why many of us are overweight/obese.

    This is the habit we HAVE to break. This is the habit that has driven us to get to the state we are in now and drove us to resort to such an extreme diet. I dont know if any of yous have heard of the programme 'the biggest loser' ... well anyways, i watch the australian version and one of the trainers motto's is 'NO MORE EXCUSES'

    Its such a good motto, wether you are feeling down in the dumps, have had bad news, had a crappy day at work or having a totm whatever it maybe - no more excuses! - its the excuses of having a bad day and resorting to food that have landed us all in the same pot.

    Every single one of us that have dappled with this diet - whether it be for a day or a few months - deserves a pat on the back. For some this is the diet for them and for others it may not be. But as with anything in life, if you want something so bad - you don't give up untill you get it!
     
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    I think we have to be careful about the words that used in association with this diet. In my opinion I think cheat is too strong of a word to be used when someone who is struggling has a slip up or makes a choice to eat something. I just think it would add to any guilt felt about having the food. As someone who was once bulimic and had a year of therapy i learnt that you have to think of words surrounding food in a positive way as words like "cheat'' or ''being bad'' can lead to guilt. Having a strong will is excellent but we are human and we do make mistakes no matter how convinced we are we wont. I have not strayed from the diet yet but if i do it wont because i cheated, it might be because i lack will power but i dont want to feel bad about it. I think that what Summergurl has said will be really motivating to some but i worry now that someone who has eaten some food and wants to talk about it may be afraid to say. This diet is really really tough and i think we are all doing fantastically well even the ones who have had a few bumps along the way.

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    When I did LT before I stuck to it religiously.....I didn't see a point in doing it any other way. I just didn't socialise. It didn't bother me. I just focused on losing the weight. But that was for 9 weeks!

    When I see people on here 5 months, 7 months and 9 months on LT!!!! Well I think factoring in the odd family occassion and trying to stay in keytosis or damage limitation.....well that is fair enough.

    When I see newbies breaking it on day 1 or 3 I think we are sorting the men from the boys! Who will stick this diet and who won't . Some restart 2 or 3 times before they can actually stick it (Good for them and their determination). Others try it briefly, feel hungry or dizzy and realise the diet is not for them.

    But others are doing LT for a reasonable length of time sucessfully and then suddenly do something really stupid! A moment of weakness. Stuff their faces and are crying after. I feel for them! There but for the grace of God go I! Food is an addiction and many an addict stumbles before they get clean!

    As for those that break the diet regularly and kinda do TFR about 80-90% of the time and still seem to lose.....well that I find hard to swallow. But that is only cause I am jealous! Cos if I did that I would lose nothing or put up weight!

    So each to their own. Everyone is trying to lose weight and here for support.

    But the idea of this diet is "DON'T EAT!"
     
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    Interesting

    Hi Summer
    Have been reading and finding it all so familiar. With regard to cheating I suppose I must admit that I have and that was on thursday. There is no point in saying I had only cheated a little by having aa taste of chicken and spat it out, which is what I di. I dont know how to describe how I felt emotionally, lonely ? sad? upset? angry? upset? as it was none of those. After nearly 6 weeks of not tasting food I had an urge to just taste something which I did. Can't say I felt any better or worse for it, but it may account for the 2lb loss this week. I don't know, perhaps that little slip put me out of ketosis.
    This is a very strange place to be for us. Everything needs to eat to live.
    So putting ourselves through this plan is a very difficult process. In the beginning we are buoyed up with the weight loss, but after a time this weight loss can become less significant when we have a desire to put food in or mouths.
    In an effort to change anything in our lives there is a process to go through, the thinking about it, the doing, the relapsing and then the descision - or not- to start at the beginning again. If at first you don't succeed try try and try again. So the moral of my story is!
    Bugger it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the benefits are better than the bits of chicken, so I will be trying my best not to repeat it again.:)
     
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    I am in full agreement of this post.. I think it is great that summergirl is so motivated, but it may well turn out to be a 'look how well we are doing we havent CHEATED' thing...
    There have been many posts I have read over the past 2 months whereby people have slipped off the wagon and then got on it again... people you wouldnt have thought fromt he outset, because no matter what we think at any given time, it is hard to say where any of us will be in a few weeks.. there have been alot of posts and threads on this issue recently and I tihnk also it is hard for someone who hasnt re started or refed then restarted to know exactly how hard it can be.. these are people who have tfr d for months.. with the determination of a mule.. only to find that yes, it is bloo&y hard.. and because someone is saying 'ah come on guys pull your socks up' kindof thing doesnt change that fact.. however as I have said well done summergirl on your determination and I hope you reach your goal... others may not be able for a day, never mind a week, nor months, even restarts and years.. but we are all here for the same thing.. and that is we have eaten ourselves to the point of obesety and we are all trying hard to do something about it... it isnt how hard you are trying to keep up with other peoples determination, but our own that counts.. and focusing on our own weight issues with a good support base here, and a place to come wether things are going great, or wether things are pants x
     
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