# Newbie Error!!!

#### slimmeragain

##### Member
Sigh...

This was my very first week at WW and I think I have gained a massive 5lbs! I haven't used my electric scales since way before I was pregnant and there is a chance the batteries are a bit worse for wear. I thought I would way myself only because I realised that I may have bee adding pp incorrectly.

I didn't realise that for some items 1pp+1pp may actually equal 3pp. I have made this mistake all week and for larger valued items too!!

I am gutted! After reading your many posts this was only made aware to me and I wander, how am I meant to know that some items add up in this way? I have taken a lot of your advice and won't by any of the books as they can be inaccurate.

I am loving WW and don't want to go back to SW. What to do? x

#### slimmeragain

##### Member
Hey there!

I have a calulator but that only tells me the pp value for one of each item not if I decide to have more of that item.

For example bread could be 1pp for one slice but not 2pp for 2.

Thank you! x

#### smirnoff

##### Overweight or undertall?!
are you on monthly pass or paying weekly?

if you are on monthly pass then use the tracker on their website which tells you the points if you have more than one item. i used it this morning for my breakfast, one crumpet is 3 pp, 2 are 5pp.

if you are paying weekly then it really is worth changing to monthly pass because you save money and get the added benefit of free esource.

i could not manage without the tracker online! hope the damage isn't as bad as you are fearing x

#### Last_Attempt

##### Banned
Hey there!

I have a calulator but that only tells me the pp value for one of each item not if I decide to have more of that item.

For example bread could be 1pp for one slice but not 2pp for 2.

Thank you! x
Calculate the quantity for the day by weight. Its what I do and I'm losing weight. I meal plan ahead.

Today for breakfast I had a banana sandwich on WW 1pp bread = 2pp and a cup of green tea 0pp

Lunch will be a Morrisons eat smart steak and onions with mash and curly kale = 8pp. Pud will be a WW 1pp yoghurt

Evening will be 12 slices of eat smart french toast with eat smart cheese spread. I graze on this all evening = 7pp

0pp fruit throughout day 2 apples and 2 plums + green tea and 2 ltr water

WW Hot choc before bed = 2pp

Total pp today will be 20pp

#### slimmeragain

##### Member
Last Attempt, sorry I don't understand.

Smirnoff, I know I am saving in the long run but short term I cannot afford a monthly pass. I only joined last week because I had voucher for free membership and free class.

#### Brightonrosie

##### I want to be fitter again
The monthly pass is only £2.99 for the first 4 weeks and you can cancel after that so it cheaper than class. If you really unsure and you are having two portions of something, add up the calories and divide the total by 40 it will give you the propoints. e.g rice cakes are 30 calories each therefore will equal 1 point (nearer to 40 calories than 0 calories) 3 rice cakes are 90 calories = 2 propoints as it is nearer 80 calories than 120 which would be 3. hope that makes sense

#### Lighterlisa

##### Full Member
I've also made this mistake once or twice the main one being fishfingers which I was convinced were 1 pp each when actually they're 2 pp each or 3 for 5pp oh dear! Well get the hang of it 'in' the end! X

#### Last_Attempt

##### Banned
The monthly pass is only £2.99 for the first 4 weeks and you can cancel after that so it cheaper than class. If you really unsure and you are having two portions of something, add up the calories and divide the total by 40 it will give you the propoints. e.g rice cakes are 30 calories each therefore will equal 1 point (nearer to 40 calories than 0 calories) 3 rice cakes are 90 calories = 2 propoints as it is nearer 80 calories than 120 which would be 3. hope that makes sense
So if you eat a slice of WW 1pp bread its 1pp, but if you make a sandwich and need two slices it becomes 3pp for the bread? I'm getting confused now WW should put that on their products or they're actually lying to the customers.

#### Tonic

##### Full Member
So if you eat a slice of WW 1pp bread its 1pp, but if you make a sandwich and need two slices it becomes 3pp for the bread? I'm getting confused now WW should put that on their products or they're actually lying to the customers.
Its because 1 slice of ww bread is something like 1.3 points and as there are no half points it gets rounded down. However, if you have 2 slices, it becomes 2.6 points and as thats over the halfway mark it gets rounded up.

It is confusing at first but you soon get your head round it. As one of the previous posters said, the monthly pass is only 12.99 for the first month and you will get access to esource which calculates the values for you. After a month you can cancel it by which time you would have got your head round the values

#### Last_Attempt

##### Banned
Its because 1 slice of ww bread is something like 1.3 points and as there are no half points it gets rounded down. However, if you have 2 slices, it becomes 2.6 points and as thats over the halfway mark it gets rounded up.

It is confusing at first but you soon get your head round it. As one of the previous posters said, the monthly pass is only 12.99 for the first month and you will get access to esource which calculates the values for you. After a month you can cancel it by which time you would have got your head round the values
Thanks, but some have already calculated that esource can be wrong by as much as two points on some products. WW should print the exact point value instead of conning people in the supermarket. Their bread should read 1.3pp not 1pp. That .3pp is the difference between buying their brand and buying someone elses. Naughty naughty WW.

#### babybloo

##### Extra Easy Apparently...!
I wouldn't worry too much about the rounding as just as many products decrease in points when you have two of them i.e ww tortilla wraps are 3pp for 1 wrap or 5pp for 2. Chances are if you were having two you would count it as 6pp so it evens up the bread.

#### kagome75

##### WWer
Thanks, but some have already calculated that esource can be wrong by as much as two points on some products. WW should print the exact point value instead of conning people in the supermarket. Their bread should read 1.3pp not 1pp. That .3pp is the difference between buying their brand and buying someone elses. Naughty naughty WW.
they write it on the material they give you at meetings when you join. In the booklet it shows you clearly that some things can be 1 pp for 1 and 3 pp for 2 and so on.

Your best bet is to check the points value of the items for 1, 2 or 3 by making the calculation on the values multiplied by 2 or 3. For example if you have 1 slice of ww bread you will have 1.3 proteins, 4.3 carbs, 0.1 fat and 0.7 fibre = 1pp. However, if you have 2 slices you'll have 2.6 proteins, 8.6 carbs, 0.2 fat and 1.4 fibre and for 3 you'll have 3.9 proteins, 12.9 carbs, 0.3 fat and 2.1 fibre. Input these values in the calculator and you'll know the points for 1, 2 and 3 of them. Repeat for everything that you use in multiple numbers and you will know. I know it's a pain, but at least you would know and stop worrying about it.

Another option is to buy the WW scales: it's great because you can see exactly how many grams of something you can get away with before you actually need to add a point. For example, you can get 35g of chocolate porridge by readybreak for 3 pp, 36g would become 4pp, and so on.

#### Brightonrosie

##### I want to be fitter again
they write it on the material they give you at meetings when you join. In the booklet it shows you clearly that some things can be 1 pp for 1 and 3 pp for 2 and so on.

Your best bet is to check the points value of the items for 1, 2 or 3 by making the calculation on the values multiplied by 2 or 3. For example if you have 1 slice of ww bread you will have 1.3 proteins, 4.3 carbs, 0.1 fat and 0.7 fibre = 1pp. However, if you have 2 slices you'll have 2.6 proteins, 8.6 carbs, 0.2 fat and 1.4 fibre and for 3 you'll have 3.9 proteins, 12.9 carbs, 0.3 fat and 2.1 fibre. Input these values in the calculator and you'll know the points for 1, 2 and 3 of them. Repeat for everything that you use in multiple numbers and you will know. I know it's a pain, but at least you would know and stop worrying about it.

Another option is to buy the WW scales: it's great because you can see exactly how many grams of something you can get away with before you actually need to add a point. For example, you can get 35g of chocolate porridge by readybreak for 3 pp, 36g would become 4pp, and so on.
The calculator does this for you. At the end of the calculation you just put in x 2 or 3 for example. It holds all the info until you put in new foods

#### kagome75

##### WWer
The calculator does this for you. At the end of the calculation you just put in x 2 or 3 for example. It holds all the info until you put in new foods
really? I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the tip!

#### pudnpie

##### Silver Member
Another option is to buy the WW scales: it's great because you can see exactly how many grams of something you can get away with before you actually need to add a point. For example, you can get 35g of chocolate porridge by readybreak for 3 pp, 36g would become 4pp, and so on.
I do this on the online tracker and then measure it out on my normal scales (useful if you have access).

#### kagome75

##### WWer
I do this on the online tracker and then measure it out on my normal scales (useful if you have access).
yes it is useful if you have access to the online calculator without having to turn on your computer all the time. I suppose that it's really handy for iPhone users