Nina's journey with CD and Dr. Phil -- I am working on blocking the satsified binger.

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  1. nina

    nina Silver Member

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    OK, I have been on CD since 28/1...and the ride has made me realize many things in which i was in denial about...

    I have and continue to use food to convey/hide/transfer my emotions...wow, never thought about it that way...just thought that i simply loved food (and that she loved me back!!!) and thats how i ballooned up to the massive person staring back in the mirror...

    I would like to attach below in this newly started thread a recent doc I found about emotional eating...hope this can be benificail for two reasons: i can look at this posting often and derive strength from it and that others may also have insight in their own behaviors.

    I am reading Dr. Phil's The Ultimate Weight Solution ...and absolutely love his real-talk and getting down to the nitty gritty of what we tell ourselves...

    so to all who read this thread...cant promise you anything fab, but it will be honest and a way in which i will use as a positive emotional release...looking at other peoples' weightloss journey has inspired me to use the diary...so here goes...:rolleyes:

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    The 12 Types of Emotional Hunger." By Roger Gould, M.D.
    Below are the 12 types of emotional hunger that fuel Emotional Eating. As you read through the list, ask yourself how many of these apply to you and your life.

    Type 1. Dulling The Pain With The Food Trance.
    If you get really hungry when you feel angry, depressed, anxious, bored, or lonely, you suffer from Type 1 emotional hunger, and you use food to dull the pain that these emotions cause.

    Type 2. Sticks And Stones May Break Your Bones, But Cake Won't Heal What Hurts You.
    If you react by getting hungry when others talk down to you, take advantage of you, belittle you or take you for granted, then you suffer from Type 2 emotional hunger. You eat to avoid confrontation.

    Type 3. A Full Heart Fills An Empty Belly.

    If you crave food when you have tension in your close relationships, you suffer from Type 3 emotional hunger. You eat to avoid feeling the pain of rejection or anger.

    Type 4. Hate Yourself, Love Your Munchies.
    If you tend to become hypercritical of yourself, if you label yourself "stupid, "lazy," or "a loser," you have Type 4 emotional hunger. You eat to "stuff down" self-hatred.

    Type 5. Secret Desires Have No Calories.
    If your hunger gets activated because your intimate relationships don't satisfy some basic need like trust or security, you suffer from Type 5 emotional hunger and you use food to try to fill the gap.

    Type 6. Forty Million Big Gulps And The Well Is Still Empty.
    If you eat to make up for the deprivation you experienced as a child, you have Type 6 Emotional Eating.

    Type 7. It's My Pastry, and I'll Eat If I Want To.
    If you eat to assert your independence because you don't want anyone telling you what to do, you have Type 7 emotional hunger.

    Type 8. I Can't Come To Work Today--I'm Eating
    If your appetite kicks in when you're faced with new challenges--if you use food to avoid rising to the test, or to insulate yourself from the fear of failure--you have Type 8 emotional hunger.

    Type 9. Aroused by Aromas, Not by the Chef.
    If you stuff your face in order to avoid your sexuality-either to stay overweight so that nobody desires you or to hide from intimate encounters--you suffer from Type 9 Emotional Eating.

    Type 10. I'll Beat You With this Eclair.
    Emotional eaters often eat to pay back those who have hurt them, often in the distant past. They use their bodies as battlegrounds for working out old resentments.

    Type 11. Peter Pan and the Peanut Butter Cookie.
    If you eat to make yourself feel carefree, like a child, you have Type 11 emotional hunger. You eat to keep yourself from facing the challenges of growing up.

    Type 12. That Stranger In Lycra Wearing Your Face.
    If you overeat because you fear getting thin, either consciously or unconsciously, you have Type 12 emotional hunger.
     
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  3. natayou

    natayou a bit different everyday

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    is it possible to have all of them at the same time:(

    very thought provoking post though nina, and i can see myself in most of those types of emotional eaters, guess i am an emotional eater full stop?:(

    what does it say to do to get over the feelings of wanting to eat then

    thanks
    nat xx
     
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    hey nat,

    looking over my post -- i ALWAYS laugh at #8 (Cant work today- i am eating)...it just cracks me up...ROFL

    um, to answer ur question, i quess its quite possible to have all the above reactions...but from what I have read in Dr. Phil's book (highly reccommended and not yet finished) is that we need to re=program our way of thinking. His motto is: there's a payoff in everything (absolutely everything) we do in life...and there are associated behaviors (sometimes negative ones creep in!) which keep us fixated in a frame of mind...

    so basically, we can only change what we acknowledge...
    then use a plan for change...half the battlle is realizing there is a problem...and as i stated b4 -- i never thought i had a problem...big denial!

    i know u probably r busy with ur children...but if you can squeeze in time to read this book (with great self-reflecting activities)...its worth it...(and i got mine from the library)

    i have family members who have undergone the gastric bypass and lap-band...both say the weight drops off -- but they never face the emotional side of eating....so eventually even surgery doesnt work!

    i started CD cuz i dont wanna get to the level of surgery, and i DO wanna control my food monster!

    thanks again 4 reading!!! (nice to know someone is out there...and reading what i write).:blahblah:
     
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    Hi Nina, great post. The titles of the 12 types of emotional hunger cracked me up!

    Same as Nat, I think that I have them all too (well most of them anyway!). I'm about to start a course of counselling through my GP surgery to hopefully tackle the demons. It's gotta be worth a try. Dr Phils book sounds good but I am so good at avoidance that I buy every self help book possible and they stay on the shelf gathering dust!

    I look forward to reading your posts and following your journey.
     
  6. natayou

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    thanks for that nina, i will read that book it sounds like i need too, i get alot of time in the eves actually as i put them all to bed at 7 [yes even nearly 10] they are allowed tv till 8.30 then its night night,
    my family has alot of food issues as well, my dad is on the waiting list for bypass surgery, and my grandma [dads side ] died of thrombosis weighing 34 stones funny enough in all my years i never saw her eat a thing, i guess she was a secret eater?[much as i am/was]
    it goes deep and does need addressing, canu tell me the title of the book, sorry if you already did :)
     
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    Hiya

    I just wanted to say what a great post. I love the 12 types of emotional hunger! :)

    Dr Phils show is great (i know thats maybe sad but i really love it lol) so i imagine his book(s) will be too, the man tends to talk so much sense and really gets to the point.

    Im looking forward to reading your posts, will be interesting to see what you make of the book as you read more :)

    Good luck xx
     
  8. natayou

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    fi is it on sky one or living, i know i have seen it on tv guide but never watched it, but i will now, did u see when he was on the osbournes giving them family therapy.........priceless!!
     
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    Well, this is my official second start of SS...ever since last month's TOTM and falling off the wagon...I just havent got myself back on...but I have been talking to myself these few days and gearing up for Monday's arrival...no more sabotage/feeling sorry for myself or making excuses for my emotional hunger...

    I will succeed-->thats what I keep telling myself...as I look at all the other threads at minimins and the b4/after pics...I too will be there one day.

    Didnt get to Dr. Phil (The Ultimate Weight Solution) this weekend as I was reading a novel by Mary Higgens Clark...finished it...so will get back to my therapist b4 hitting the pillow tonight...

    Nat, I think that most overweight/morbidly obese (boy did I deny this medical label for years), come from similar backgrounds and environments where food has been an issue...I remember my best friend years ago asking me a question when I asked her why are ppl fat...she asked me to tell her about my impression of meal/eating time as a child...now that shocked me, what did that have to do with me being an adult?

    well, my answer: upon closing my eyes and visualizing myself as a very youg child, I remember being fed in anger -- almost like the food was shoved into my mouth to get feeding time over with...her anaylses -- could I now be using food to hide my anger/emotions? quite often, according to behavioral psycology, activities are paired with emotional responses...well Dr. Phil explains it so much better!

    yes... westiegirl and Fiona, I will keep the update of the book...rather I could post bits about each chapter...that way it may help me to recall the important info he has me assimilating into my new behavior...

    finally, I would encourage you gals to see his show...i dont have cable but used to watch him when i lived in New York...
     
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    :whistle: Its a quarter to 3 in the afternoon of my first day back on SSing...had my first pack of vanilla cappacino with a dash of cinnamon and thought myself in Starbucks...

    Drank my first liter of water...and mosied around this site reading other ppl's stories...so far so good...not pulling my hair out or anything...just a bit impatient about reaching my goal...although rationally I know that this is a quick weightloss but not a quick fix...

    :whistle: bored...bored...but not hungry...or emotionally hungry that is...
     
  11. flirty40greeneyes

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    Can recognise myself in a lot of those 12 titles too ........... suppose that's why most of us are here??!!

    Back on CD SS myself today (again) and desperately having to remind myself why i want to do it v why I want that packet of choccy biscuits in the cupboard ...........
     
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    Ooh I didn't know you could have cinammon!

    Some days this diet is a killer but the weigh ins after a 100% week soon make up for it ;)
     
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    "By changing the way u feel, then u change ur actions-no longer medicating with food"

    hey beverly -- hope your day went well...mine did, thankfully kept myselfbusy...and no ill side effects...whew...and i made sure that all y cabinets were cleared out b4 starting today -- hehe, that is over the past few days, i helped clear out the snacks...:rolleyes:

    kath - i was told that cinnamon as a spice is ok cuz theres no sugar...infact, i just had my veggie soup with some cumin spice and tabasco suace --- so i think i am having real food...hehehe

    drank all my water today...whew i forgot how all the water just runs right thru 'ya...

    wondering about sonkie/sonya -- she too had started yesterday...i will go and try to find her...
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    so day one under my belt...and i added a new countdown under my name...i need all the inspiration i can get...cuz sometimes it feels quite comfortable being fat...then i remmebr how i have to squeeze into the transportation seats or how i cant get into normal sized clothes or even how unhealthy i became a few months ago when i was pregnant...

    thats why i started this diet -- my last resort...the icing on the cake??? i delivered at 28 weeks with severe preclampsia (HELLP syndrome) and my body was rapidly shutting down major organs...my baby boy (Anees) was delivered prematurely and stayed with us in ICU for just about 4 weeks...he was a fighter...the fight eventually overtook his little body, and he returned back into the loving hands of our Creator...

    No I dont blame myself for this...its just one of life's quirks...but it did wake me up -- giving me a big smack of reality that I was in fact MORBIDLY OBESE and in danger of dying at a young age...not even yet 30...but came close to losing everyything...I NEVER REALIZED BEING FAT WAS DANGEROUS!

    so although i dont know when my number is up in this life, i can DO something about my health(and i am)...and in turn, being healthy will help me to become more active in worshipping our Creator...and then try to get pregnant again...eventually(IA)...

    onto day 2...chug chug chug...the little train that could...:nightf: (top title quote by Dr. Phil)
     
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    Oh Nina I'm so sorry to hear about your baby boy, that is so sad :(

    Just wanted to send you a big hug love :hug99:

    Keep drinking that water, it really makes a difference to your weight loss :)
     
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    Hi Nina, sorry for your loss. I will continue reading your posts and hope that your journey goes well.

    Waiting for the next instalment.

    Much love x
     
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    thanks westie and kath -- i too am glad that i have some new 'friends' here...i do look forward to posting ad reading others' posts...

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    another day...did well, slight headache - but thats the consequence for having to get back into ketosis...is it normal for my tummy to be rummbling (not from hunger, but rather like its going to erupt like a volcano!)?

    kath (anyone else is free to answer as well!)
    why is it that weightloss is better when the minimum amt of water is consumed? is there any scientifc relevance or is that just the motto here? did anyone see a remarkable difference in a week when water was not consumed at minimal levels?
     
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    Hi Nina :)

    I personally find that if I just stick to the LL minimum of 4 litres my weight loss is slower, if I drink 6 litres it could make me lose a pound more. I definitely notice the difference when I don't drink water properly.

    I don't know any of the science behind it but I'd imagine it's something to do with flushing your body out maybe :confused:

    I think I had some of the stomach rumbling stuff going on last time I went into ketosis after eating...must be all the food getting ready to flush out :D

    Well done for getting through another day, ketosis can't be far away from you now :)
     
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    oh thanks kath 4 such a quick reply...

    its funny how CD recommends 2 liters but most of us drink 4...and LL says 4 and u drink 6!

    i feel so thirsty if i only drink 2 but can only seem to squeeze in 4 liters per day! what is the best way to increase water consumption?
     
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    I buy litre bottles from Asda, they do them with a sports cap and I seem to be always holding a bottle. I drink it then fill it back up and take it to whichever room I'm in, soon drink it when I look at it and I can drink lots more out of those sports bottles for some reason.

    If I'm going out anywhere in the car I make sure I take a bottle with me.

    When I first started I was on the loo all the time but now I'm fine, can hold it longer :D

    Edit to add: I used to put 6 x 1 litre bottles on the side in the morning (I'm at home) then I knew how much I was drinking, used to make sure all 6 bottles were empty
     
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    good tip kath...ad i am still chugging my water like a fish...

    day 3...doing fine...didnt post yesterday as i was out walking around all day...cae home exhausted...but felt the worth this morning when i woke up...

    feeling positive about the diet again...guess those are the addictive endorphins as a result of getting into ketosis...

    tonight will be a struggle not to pick while cooking...offered to make rice and beans for DH with little fried crispy spring rolls...mememememememe. i will resist, i will resist...i will keep myself occupied...i rememebr reading in your diary Kath of all you days of resisting and i admire your determination...so i have called you detrmination fairy and she is delivering the package now to me...!

    will post later.
     
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    Hello :)

    Hope the determination fairy delivered you a big chunk of it for the weekend :D
     
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