# question for you all

#### kirsty2012

##### is gonna shine in 2009
S: 19st2lb C: 13st7lb G: 10st7lb BMI: 31.4 Loss: 5st9lb(29.48%)
you know how, ww bread and kingsmill 50/50 etc are 0.5pts each but have two together and they count as 1.5pts instead of 1pt.......do you count them as 1pt or 1.5. I used to just count as one but since been back on i have been counting as 1.5. So confusing when they do that

#### Starlight

##### Gold Member
I have to admit I count them at 0.5 per slice and if I have 2 I count it as 1. Ive never quite understood why they should be counted as 1.5 for 2 slices when theyre half a point each.

#### kirsty2012

##### is gonna shine in 2009
S: 19st2lb C: 13st7lb G: 10st7lb BMI: 31.4 Loss: 5st9lb(29.48%)
I've been told its cos they are 0.7 points a slice but rounded down to 0.5 so two together would 1.4pts so they round that up to 1.5pts. Soooo confusing. I must admit when i counted them as 1pts i still lost weight etc, i think maybe it evens out because somethings you eat during the day may be 0.3pts but are rounded up to 0.5 am i making sense lol

#### bexie1981

##### Full Member
S: 18st9lb C: 17st12lb G: 12st12lb Loss: 0st11lb(4.21%)
And the official answer from the WW magazine is:
"We give food a points value to the nearest half, so we either round them up or down. A slice of WW low cal bread has a points value of just under 3/4, which rounds down to 1/2. But the nearest points value we can give two slices is 1 and a 1/2. There are other foods this applies to, including ordinary bread. One 35g slice has a points value of 1, whereas two slices rounds up to 2 and a 1/2. But it doesn't always round up-one medium egg has a points value of 1 and a 1/2, but two round down to a points value of 2 and a 1/2. "
Clear as mud really then! Hope this helps. x

#### Starlight

##### Gold Member
So how do we know what theyre rounding up and rounding down?

How far do you take it, if youre having 2 slices of bacon at 1 point per slice do you count it as 2, 2.5 or 3.

Their logic, to me, makes a mockery of their points system

#### bexie1981

##### Full Member
S: 18st9lb C: 17st12lb G: 12st12lb Loss: 0st11lb(4.21%)
Same here. That rather confused me, so I'm going to pretend I never even read it, and shall continue doing what I've been doing so far! It seems to be working and that's all I'm bothered about.
And at the end of the day, is half a point here and there really going to have a huge impact over the course of a week? I doubt it, especially if like me, you like to stockpile a few points to fall back on. And like Kirsty said, it should hopefully even itself out anyway.
*throws Weight Watchers magazine in the bin*

#### Starlight

##### Gold Member
lol I think thats probably a good idea Beckie. I wouldnt usually disregard points but this logic makes no sense at all. Ive always counted it as half a point and thats it - and well its not done me any harm so far

#### kirsty2012

##### is gonna shine in 2009
S: 19st2lb C: 13st7lb G: 10st7lb BMI: 31.4 Loss: 5st9lb(29.48%)
lol opened a right can of worms here lol I'm just gonna ignore and count as they add up i lost 3st doing it that way before. so ner ner WW

#### pandora

##### finding my way again !
G: 11st7lb
just to confuse the issue even more !
i point to my advantage !
ie if 1 of some thing is 1 point but 2 is 2.5 point i'll count it individually. If 1of something is 1 point but 2 is 1.5 points i'll count it for the 2 !
make sence ?
xx

#### Starlight

##### Gold Member
Oh the other thing Ive found - sometimes working out per 100g instead of per item works out better!

For instance Chicken satay sticks are something like 20 cals & 0.1 fat or something mad like that so almost no points. If you point them on the calculator they come up as 0.5 so a box of 16 is 8 points. HOWEVER if you work out the points per 100g then its 3 points per 100g & a box is 200g so the same box is only 6 points :giggle:

#### kirsty2012

##### is gonna shine in 2009
S: 19st2lb C: 13st7lb G: 10st7lb BMI: 31.4 Loss: 5st9lb(29.48%)
oh god my head hurts lol

#### pandora

##### finding my way again !
G: 11st7lb
its all about tweeking it to suit you & make the most of your points, whichever way makes the least points is how i use the calculation !
xx

#### Marie_D

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I just point what I'm having...if I'm having 1 piece of bread and it works out at 0.5 points, then that's what I take it as. If I'm having 2 pieces then I work out the points for 2 pieces and take it at 1.5 points.

For anything I'm eating, I work out the points for what I'm having at that one sitting, so for the chicken Starlight, if I was eating the whole packet and the whole packet worked out at 6 points, then that's what I'm take it to be. If I was only having a couple of skewers, I would work out on my calculator exactly what those couple of skewers comes to and take it as that.

#### Starlight

##### Gold Member
See thats the bit I dont get about the bread lol If I was having 2 Id be counting it as 0.5 x 2 so 1 point

#### Marie_D

##### Gold Member
See thats the bit I dont get about the bread lol If I was having 2 Id be counting it as 0.5 x 2 so 1 point
Yes, but if you were adding up the cals and sat fat for both and putting them together, then it would work out at 1.5.

Someone above (sorry, I only read it a while ago and I've already forgotten who it was ) said that one piece of bread is 0.7 points. Well 0.7 points is nearer to 0.5 points than 1 point, hence it being half a point. BUT, 2 x 0.7 = 1.4, and 1.4 is nearer to 1.5 points than to 1 point. See?

#### pandora

##### finding my way again !
G: 11st7lb
whatever yo're doing Sandy its obviously working !!

#### Starlight

##### Gold Member
I do see it but then what Im getting at is how are you meant to know what things are 0.7 points and what are 0.5 or what are 0.4 where do you draw the line? If you use your calculator a slice of bread comes out at 0.5.

Youre right Cheryl lol I think Ill carry on as I have been :giggle:

#### Marie_D

##### Gold Member
If you use a calculator and work out 2 slices, it comes out at 1.5, so if I'm having 2 slices, that's what I work out. I personally always work out my points by the portions I'm actually having as opposed to 'per item'. If I'm having 1, I use my calculator and work out the points for 1, if I'm having 2 then I use my calculator to work out the points for 2.