I think Ryvitas are a complete luxury once you've tried to eat scan bran in their raw form. They're actually ok if you microwave them witha little water until they're pliable to make into a mash & mix in yoghurt and fruit, or make one of the recipes on the other thread, but on their own... wow. That's a step braver than I can manage, and I've been drinking lemon this week. They're just evil, and you can chew for a week and make no progress, but that's just me. You might even like them.... but I'm yet to find someone who does!! My advice would be to add as much to it and change it from its original form as much as possible to get all the same fibre without any of the initial eating quality, and it might then be worth it.