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Discussion in 'Slimming World' started by Jaffaqueen, 1 July 2010 Social URL.

  1. Jaffaqueen

    Jaffaqueen Full Member

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    I know that tinned fruit is synned, and I've gathered the reason it's synned is because it's too easy to eat alot of it (more than 1 normal piece of fruit).

    What I don't get though, is, if you get for example peach segments tinned in juice, and you only eat say 4-5 segments (where the segments are 1/8 of a peach), surely you're not eating more than 1 piece of fruit?

    The reason i'm asking is, I LOVE fruits like nectarines, peaches, apricots etc but they're only available in season for about a month, the rest of the year you can't get them fresh, and I like one chopped up for breakfast with FF yog, because i'm not using any of my HEXs in doing so and it's quick and easy at work. Now, come a few weeks time, my supplies of peaches and nectarines are going to dwindle, and you can't get frozen ones, so I was thinking about tinned.... Surely if you don't eat LOADS you should be ok? If not, I really REALLY don't get it.
     
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  3. louisedan

    louisedan Gold Member

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    same here but either we accept it or break the rules.
     
  4. Jaffaqueen

    Jaffaqueen Full Member

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    I also don't get why tinned fruit is synned but tinned veg is free..... but that's a WHOLE other story!
     
  5. Jaffaqueen

    Jaffaqueen Full Member

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    tinned tomatoes are sat in tomato juice. If you drain the tinned fruit, what's the difference? I don't understand your point, sorry.
     
  6. Caramelle

    Caramelle Full Member

    Actually, I'd really like to know this too! I know that some fruit you get tinned is in "light syrup", but like you say if you drain it off? I even rinced some sweetcorn the other day, as the tin contained sugar. How sad is that lol!!

    Lots of love, Caramelle X X X
     
  7. Claireloulou

    Claireloulou Full Member

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    I think its more to do with it absorbing juice, and fruit juice is synned, not sure how that would work with tinned toms though.
     
  8. Lovely_Laura

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    I have a feeling that the fruit absorbs some of the syrup so even washing it wouldn't help. I don't know the full reasons behind the rule but I trust they know what they're doing.

    If certain fresh fruit isn't available why not change to something that is? It's very easy to get hold of almost anything from supermarkets these days so unless it's a moral reason behind not buying out of season stuff ie. importing it thousands of miles then keep enjoying what you want and still follow the plan.:)
     
  9. Jaffaqueen

    Jaffaqueen Full Member

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    I wouldn't buy fruit in syrup, i'd always buy it in juice or, on the rare occasion, water.

    Its not really a moral thing, most of the fresh produce in supermarkets is from far off countries even when they're in season in this one!

    My problem is, I don't like apples (they do something funny to my teeth) and I'm allergic to berries, and i've tried using pineapple but it turns the yogurt, so I'm kinda stuck with the peaches/nectarines/apricots. Buying out of season leaves them lacking in flavour and extortionately priced!

    The thing I don't get is that (on any website i've read re: tinned vs fresh) tinned fruit doesn't lack any nutrients other than the fibre from the skin that fresh fruit has, and in a lot of cases is "fresher" than fresh fruit because it's picked and canned quicker than fresh fruit takes to be packed, shipped, stored then put out on the shelf.

    Weird. I guess it'll always be one of those SW mysteries!
     
  10. Lovely_Laura

    Lovely_Laura Moooooo

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    Well the other way to do it use it as a HeB. I know it's doesn't seem to make sense and if you're one of those people who would only eat the equivalent of 1 from the tin then it's even more frustrating but I really do think there must be a reason for it. We just don't know what it is!
     
  11. Honeyoc

    Honeyoc Is a crunchy mama!

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    I think tinned fruits are synned because they're processed. They're canned and then boiled at a high temperature so obviously this changes the structure, glycemic index of the fruit and how it is digested and absorbed. Same thing goes for cooked and mashed fruit. It takes less energy to break it down so it turns to fat a lot quicker (as all glucose does when not burned off) but when your body has to work hard to digest food/fruits, not only are you fuller for longer but your body burns more calories to break it down.

    Jaffaqueen SW is not meant to be torturous, we all have and make choices. If you want tinned fruit you could always have it as a HEX or syn it. No need to feel deprived! And if you really resent accounting for tinned fruit in that way, then count it as free and monitor any changes to your weight. I do like structure and boundaries but a little flexibility goes a long way!
     
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  12. lentil2

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    That is exactly the reason why tinned fruit is not free.......it's is cooked and processed.
    As suggested, you can have tinned fruit as a HE b or use your syns. for it...?
     
  13. jaylou

    jaylou Gold Member

    As the others have said, it's up to you what you do. Question it with SW as to the reason why, have them and take them as free, don't have them, or have them and syn/HEX them.

    Some things have to be restricted, I just go with it and don't question to be honest but it's up to you.
     
  14. Jaffaqueen

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    I've not got a problem with SW, I don't think it's "torturous", but the reason I have fruit and yog in the morning is so I don't need to use my HEXs for my breakfast as I like a sandwich for lunch.

    Thank you for your replies, especially to Honeyoc who actually explained the reasons behind the synning rather than "just because". I'll take all your comments on board and decide what i'll do about the tinned fruit debacle.
     
  15. jaylou

    jaylou Gold Member

    I have emailed SW to see what there official answer is as to why. With regards to cooked/pureed/blended/mashed fruit - here's why:

    While fruit in its natural form is bulky, filling and often time-consuming to eat, in cooked or liquidised form it is a very effective way of adding a lot of extra energy (calories) in a non-bulky and non-filling way. Consider eating an orange. Peeling, breaking up the segments and eating just one orange can be a lengthy process. Now think about the juice that orange would produce – it contains a similar number of calories, yet it’s gone in a gulp – in fact it takes 8 oranges to make a small glass of orange juice and it’s not filling in the slightest! It’s all about getting the most (optimum) satisfaction from your foods with Food Optimising. We count juiced and cooked fruit as Syns to protect your weight losses.
     
  16. evilpenguin

    evilpenguin Not evil at all

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    Bit late in joining the thread sorry, but wanted to say I hope we get some more info on why we syn tinned fruit. I understand the syrup would have syns, and if the fruit is cooked in some way before it's canned then sure, but it does seem strange that tinned veg is fine, I would assume they would be canned using the same process?
     
  17. jaylou

    jaylou Gold Member

    What annoys me is the tinned fruit for a B choice includes the juice. I would have it without the juice! I love tinned prunes but don't want the juice :-(
     
  18. Circes

    Circes Strutting her stuff

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    Yes but surely the fruit is higher in natural sugar than the vegetables
     
  19. Jaffaqueen

    Jaffaqueen Full Member

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    Thanks for emailling.

    I understand the reasoning behind the cooked/mashed fruit, however although, for example, tinned peaches are "cooked" - by which i'm sure they're just heat treated in hot water for a very short period of time - they aren't broken down. You're still eating a peach.

    I also don't understand why tinned fruit includes the syrup/juice in syns/nutritional info. It's weird!

    yes they do, but you can have syn free cooked veg, but have to syn cooked fruit.

    yes, and fresh fruit is higher in natural sugar than veg too. Ripe bananas, for example, are full of natural sugar!
     
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