Sole Source and Sole Source + (Addition of Skimmed Milk) - MiniMins.com

**CD Counsellor** · 30th March, 2008

You can still just do SS as always however to do this your CDC must write to the GP for information only as SS is below 600 cals these are the new rules.

If you do not want your CDC to notify your GP you must then do the SS+ programmes either 4 shakes and 200ml skimmed milk or 3 shakes and 200 cal meal (similar to the AAM) this equates to 615 cals.

You can however opt to do SS+ anyway as you may wish to have the skimmed milk or extra pack.

You can also have three packs and skimmed milk, however, the GP would still need to be notified as this would fall under 600 cals. This is not a set programme please discuss with your individual CDC.

Please note that carb sensitive people may find the addition of skimmed milk can slow weightloss and break ketosis.

A VLCD (under 800 cals) can only be used for 12 weeks then on week 13 you have to move up to 810 which is a LCD.

SS+ is still a VLCD.

You can also now stay on SS for the 12 weeks continuously then add food in week 13 then continue for another 12 weeks or until BMI 25 is reach which is the point at which 810 has to be introduced.

The foods for the SS+ are as listed in the New Pink and Blue booklet, these are however the same as those listed for AAM in the Old Pink and Blue booklet.

Diva2B · 30th March, 2008

Thanks so much for this Linda.....
Very informative, I had heard that changes were afoot so thanks for the clarification....

Michelle x

mmmwoah · 4th September, 2008

Hi Linda, I have just started on SS although i havent had a doctors certif signed as i have no medical problems. Im having 3 packs a day.

What exactly can i eat/ drink? Can i have chicken breast and green salad and still stay in Katosis. I cant see much on the website in terms of what i can eat or drink and have no info

Thanks

KD · 4th September, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmwoah

Hi Linda, I have just started on SS although i havent had a doctors certif signed as i have no medical problems. Im having 3 packs a day.

What exactly can i eat/ drink? Can i have chicken breast and green salad and still stay in Katosis. I cant see much on the website in terms of what i can eat or drink and have no info

Thanks

Have a look in the Cambridge book. If your CDC didn't give you one, ask for it.

SS doesn't include conventional foods, but the other plans do

**CD Counsellor** · 4th September, 2008

mmmwoah Hiya you need to change the colour of your posts I cannot see them.

swedie · 8th September, 2008

Hi, I have just started add a meal, but have been having 2 shakes and small low carb meal with a vitamin pill after so am keeping it under 800 cals easily and am losing weight is this ok, i feel fine.

swedie · 8th September, 2008

by the way does the new porridge have the same cals? can you have 2 a day?!

**CD Counsellor** · 8th September, 2008

2 packs, a low carb meal and a vitamin pill although still 800 cals does not have the same nutrition as three packs and a small meal from the allowable foods listed in the CD booklet.

It isn't just about calories and carbs it is about balanced safe nutrition.

You can have porridge for any of your meals.

Although you feel okay in the longterm your health could be affected you are not following a CD programme at all at the moment.

Fizzy · 8th September, 2008

Can anyone tell me what is the acceptable dairy free alternative to the skimmed milk

swedie · 8th September, 2008

i can see your point and I know what youre saying to be right, but i only really like the bars dont know about the porridge think am getting some today. will try to up it to 3 and see what happens to my weight, am just incapable of not having milk in my tea and i love tea!!

swedie · 8th September, 2008

How many cals in the bars, can i have 2 a day?

**CD Counsellor** · 8th September, 2008

You can have skimmed milk in your tea if you follow SS+ 4 a day plus 200 ml milk or as said above 3 a day plus a couple of cups of tea with skimmed should be okay, however, this is not a set CD programme and is below 615 cals so GP should be informed under the CD rules.

One bar and 2 porridge would be fine.

**CD Counsellor** · 8th September, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizzy

Can anyone tell me what is the acceptable dairy free alternative to the skimmed milk

Low cal soya milk check the labels first though.

Fizzy · 8th September, 2008

Whats classed as low cal? I usually have sweetened so guessing changing to unsweetened would be better.

Davinababe · 8th September, 2008

Hi, yes, it must be unsweetened soya milk. You will find different brands vary quite a lot in calories and carbs so check labels.

Davina

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CD Counsellor Super Moderator CD Counsellor's Profile Albums CD Counsellor's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th July, 2006 Location: Hornchurch, Essex Posts: 4,170 My Mood: Rep Power: 79	Sole Source and Sole Source + (Addition of Skimmed Milk) You can still just do SS as always however to do this your CDC must write to the GP for information only as SS is below 600 cals these are the new rules. If you do not want your CDC to notify your GP you must then do the SS+ programmes either 4 shakes and 200ml skimmed milk or 3 shakes and 200 cal meal (similar to the AAM) this equates to 615 cals. You can however opt to do SS+ anyway as you may wish to have the skimmed milk or extra pack. You can also have three packs and skimmed milk, however, the GP would still need to be notified as this would fall under 600 cals. This is not a set programme please discuss with your individual CDC. *Please note that carb sensitive people may find the addition of skimmed milk can slow weightloss and break ketosis.* A VLCD (under 800 cals) can only be used for 12 weeks then on week 13 you have to move up to 810 which is a LCD. SS+ is still a VLCD. You can also now stay on SS for the 12 weeks continuously then add food in week 13 then continue for another 12 weeks or until BMI 25 is reach which is the point at which 810 has to be introduced. The foods for the SS+ are as listed in the New Pink and Blue booklet, these are however the same as those listed for AAM in the Old Pink and Blue booklet. __________________ Linda CD Counsellor Cambridge Diet Sponsor of the Year 2007 Cambridge Counsellor Co-ordinator Committee 20 Years' Service Award Special Merit Award Winner 2005 Last edited by CD Counsellor : 31st March, 2008 at 09:46 AM. Reason: Clarification

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Diva2B Striving to be good..... Diva2B's Profile Albums Diva2B's Photo Gallery Join Date: 23rd February, 2008 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 310 My Mood: Rep Power: 13 Diet: Cambridge [allegedly :o)]	Thanks so much for this Linda..... Very informative, I had heard that changes were afoot so thanks for the clarification.... Michelle x __________________ I have slipped up and put on 21 lbs. I shall leave up my 48 lb loss until I GET BACK TO IT......... Mikki x I lost it at PhenForum! TARGET TO ACHIEVE: I can't wait to have collarbones!!!

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mmmwoah Regular Member mmmwoah's Profile Albums mmmwoah's Photo Gallery Join Date: 2nd September, 2008 Posts: 22 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 0 Diet: Cambridge	Hi Linda, I have just started on SS although i havent had a doctors certif signed as i have no medical problems. Im having 3 packs a day. What exactly can i eat/ drink? Can i have chicken breast and green salad and still stay in Katosis. I cant see much on the website in terms of what i can eat or drink and have no info Thanks __________________ XxX Mmmwoah XxX

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CD Counsellor Super Moderator CD Counsellor's Profile Albums CD Counsellor's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th July, 2006 Location: Hornchurch, Essex Posts: 4,170 My Mood: Rep Power: 79	mmmwoah Hiya you need to change the colour of your posts I cannot see them. __________________ Linda CD Counsellor Cambridge Diet Sponsor of the Year 2007 Cambridge Counsellor Co-ordinator Committee 20 Years' Service Award Special Merit Award Winner 2005

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swedie Regular Member swedie's Profile Albums swedie's Photo Gallery Join Date: 6th July, 2008 Location: Shoreham by sea Posts: 34 My Mood: Rep Power: 0 Diet: weightwatchers	Hi, I have just started add a meal, but have been having 2 shakes and small low carb meal with a vitamin pill after so am keeping it under 800 cals easily and am losing weight is this ok, i feel fine. __________________ Started CD sunday 3rd Aug: 15st 12 Week 1: 8 pounds 15st 4 Week 2: 4 pounds 15st 0 Week 3: 1 pound 14st 13 week 4 : 4 pounds!! 14st 9 Thats 1 stone 3 pounds in 1st month!!

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swedie Regular Member swedie's Profile Albums swedie's Photo Gallery Join Date: 6th July, 2008 Location: Shoreham by sea Posts: 34 My Mood: Rep Power: 0 Diet: weightwatchers	by the way does the new porridge have the same cals? can you have 2 a day?! __________________ Started CD sunday 3rd Aug: 15st 12 Week 1: 8 pounds 15st 4 Week 2: 4 pounds 15st 0 Week 3: 1 pound 14st 13 week 4 : 4 pounds!! 14st 9 Thats 1 stone 3 pounds in 1st month!!

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CD Counsellor Super Moderator CD Counsellor's Profile Albums CD Counsellor's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th July, 2006 Location: Hornchurch, Essex Posts: 4,170 My Mood: Rep Power: 79	2 packs, a low carb meal and a vitamin pill although still 800 cals does not have the same nutrition as three packs and a small meal from the allowable foods listed in the CD booklet. It isn't just about calories and carbs it is about balanced safe nutrition. You can have porridge for any of your meals. Although you feel okay in the longterm your health could be affected you are not following a CD programme at all at the moment. __________________ Linda CD Counsellor Cambridge Diet Sponsor of the Year 2007 Cambridge Counsellor Co-ordinator Committee 20 Years' Service Award Special Merit Award Winner 2005

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Fizzy Likes to post Fizzy's Profile Albums Fizzy's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th June, 2008 Posts: 720 My Mood: Rep Power: 13	Can anyone tell me what is the acceptable dairy free alternative to the skimmed milk __________________ Christmas Target

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swedie Regular Member swedie's Profile Albums swedie's Photo Gallery Join Date: 6th July, 2008 Location: Shoreham by sea Posts: 34 My Mood: Rep Power: 0 Diet: weightwatchers	i can see your point and I know what youre saying to be right, but i only really like the bars dont know about the porridge think am getting some today. will try to up it to 3 and see what happens to my weight, am just incapable of not having milk in my tea and i love tea!! __________________ Started CD sunday 3rd Aug: 15st 12 Week 1: 8 pounds 15st 4 Week 2: 4 pounds 15st 0 Week 3: 1 pound 14st 13 week 4 : 4 pounds!! 14st 9 Thats 1 stone 3 pounds in 1st month!!

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swedie Regular Member swedie's Profile Albums swedie's Photo Gallery Join Date: 6th July, 2008 Location: Shoreham by sea Posts: 34 My Mood: Rep Power: 0 Diet: weightwatchers	How many cals in the bars, can i have 2 a day? __________________ Started CD sunday 3rd Aug: 15st 12 Week 1: 8 pounds 15st 4 Week 2: 4 pounds 15st 0 Week 3: 1 pound 14st 13 week 4 : 4 pounds!! 14st 9 Thats 1 stone 3 pounds in 1st month!!

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CD Counsellor Super Moderator CD Counsellor's Profile Albums CD Counsellor's Photo Gallery Join Date: 20th July, 2006 Location: Hornchurch, Essex Posts: 4,170 My Mood: Rep Power: 79	You can have skimmed milk in your tea if you follow SS+ 4 a day plus 200 ml milk or as said above 3 a day plus a couple of cups of tea with skimmed should be okay, however, this is not a set CD programme and is below 615 cals so GP should be informed under the CD rules. One bar and 2 porridge would be fine. __________________ Linda CD Counsellor Cambridge Diet Sponsor of the Year 2007 Cambridge Counsellor Co-ordinator Committee 20 Years' Service Award Special Merit Award Winner 2005

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Fizzy Likes to post Fizzy's Profile Albums Fizzy's Photo Gallery Join Date: 28th June, 2008 Posts: 720 My Mood: Rep Power: 13	Whats classed as low cal? I usually have sweetened so guessing changing to unsweetened would be better. __________________ Christmas Target

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Davinababe Cambridge Diet Counsellor Davinababe's Profile Albums Davinababe's Photo Gallery Join Date: 12th January, 2007 Location: Elstree, Hertfordshire Posts: 49 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Hi, yes, it must be unsweetened soya milk. You will find different brands vary quite a lot in calories and carbs so check labels. Davina __________________ Davina Buechler Cambridge Diet Counsellor

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