To be fair to Naughty Puppy I've just googled the packet details for Slimfast & they compare relatively to CS... the devil might be in the detail... basically the shakes are more or less the same at a cursory level... both are cal & carb low... both of which bring on ketosis... providing (& it's a big BUT) that the balanced meal & snacks ensure low cal & low carb intake....
Caroline... I think the answer is you, not CSSame for me... the reason I got fat was because I ate too much of the wrong things for too long.... the reason I got thin(ner) was also me... albeit I followed a no-brainer lipotrim diet
The diet isn't a miracle... it's a means to an end.... addressing the root causes/habits & changing them is the real answer![]()


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this might be the answer, ive tried everything so hopefully this is it 





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i have to cop on and do something, hopefully i can do it, if i was the way i feel now (great willpower) if that lasted throughout my life id be down to the size i wanted by now, CS u can have a nice meal in the evenings. My main problem is morning and 1pm cause im rushing so the shakes will be good, so fingers crossed 


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