thanks hayles and smirky, i never noticed i was on calorie counting and thanks for pointing it out to me, i did that too lol im really pleased with my wl but like you say its hard at times, thanks for your suport and im looking forward to gaining some really good advice and tips. and good luck to you both aswell and lets hope we get to our target weights. Even on bad days i just say past is past and tomorrows another day , start again lol have to think positive and think of that lovely new dress etc, plus it makes you feel more confidant and great inside. Again thank you both for makeing me welcome :O)xx