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do you mind if i give you a bit of advice, your stats are similar to mine. in 2008 i did my first VLCD, i was fine to begin with but it was too hard to maintain for the length of time i needed to continue. i learnt a lot then and have done so from this forum. i am now in week 9 and because...

thats the email i was sent when i questioned the pills etc hope it helps if anyone reads this thread and cant make up their minds,

Thanks for your email and pointing out your concerns. I bought slimandsave business around 1 years ago at which time it was 100% pure slimming pills website, we have worked hard to bring a very high standard of VLCD into the business and have invested some £150,000 in manufacturing a fantastic...

again i agree, i wasnt going down this line because i didnt like being forced to choose certain items, i am not keen on shakes, hated the meals and soups eventually. so being able to pict shakes and bars makes it for me. i did tell him that his website wasnt doing him any favours, as i have...

i certainly find it a lot better and a lot cheaper than W8 and feel i can go on with this one to get to goal, which will be in may ish next year.

me and OH

yes sorry the shakes, the spag bol is the same as W8. the bars i am told are the same as another diet, possibly Dukan, which a friend had previously done.

can i just mention that i have been to pick up my shakes from him, as i live nearby and i have spoken to him a few times. he is reaaly nice and helpful, he has a background of nutrition and gyms, etc, he admits the silver packets and pills on the website are old stock which he is trying to get...

thanks Nik, he is such a worry wart, he has said he will drive me there if i want, he is on nights!! what a twit.

ok no prob. Ditzee i invited myself

aston villa home ground, he thinks the trains may be crowded with louts/

sounds good sandy.

Jane, i am thinking of coming on train for ease, and its cheaper, but OH has just asked me to see if there is football on that day, hes like that lol, aston villa are playing west brom kick off at 15oohrs is that likely to be a problem?

Starlight/Sandy - (booked Ramada hotel) Gemma1986/Gemma- (Ramada Hotel) Redpam/Pam - (booked Ramada Hotel) NAJH/Nik - (booked, Mom's house) :giggle: Josaje/Sara booked Ramada Hotel

wheres the nearest train station to this hotel?

likewise lol

i have booked a room at the ramada that jane suggested.

Jimmy Spices World Buffet - Concept does it all

Sweet Shop Chocolate Brownie Chocolate sponge topped with luxurious chocolate mousse, Jaffa Cakes, marshmallows, cookies & dolly mixtures. Served with chocolate sauce & cream or vanilla flavoured ice cream this is a dessert from the one and two halves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not sure yet jane depends on mum and getting time off work, so will prob be a last minute thing.

i take it the 22nd oct isnt half term or anything

Nobody on here is dumb specially you two!!! So be told

so if you come on either of those dates the get together would be the evening of those dates?

i am crying just reading your stories

ta shep will do.

help, just tried to order off DC, I dont do milk at all, I am forced to buy breakfasts, anyone else in the same position and if so what can you do?

i think sometimes you need to have a break to shake your body up, i lost 7 st earlier this year but due to holidays parties etc put a bit back on, but i am not bothered because i know when i start again it will come off well, I HOPE lol

i suppose its also how much you have to lose, if its only 2 or 3 stone its is always harder to shift anyway.

What do you mean starvation mode, you go into a state of ketosis

I know that I should lose slowly as it is the healthier and more long term option but am impatient to see results, I am going to do this diet as a long term commitment which of course the CD LL and W8 stuff cannot be. Cheers for helping me make up my mind.

thanks that does help, my friend ordered last night so that will be interesting. After doing the VLCD and losing loads quickly, which I did worry about but it was great too, do you get peed off with it going relatively slowly.

My friend and I are thinking of doing this after doing W8. I am confused by what I have read here though. Are the meals nutrionally balanced? Do diet chef actually produce them as an overall package or, as I get the impression, they are a hodge podge of different diet foods on the market...

AG your wild imagination will get you into all sorts of trouble!! lol, I dont know what would you suggest? keep it clean lol

where do you do it in York?

how about one that makes you laugh or smile? mine is BORIS THE SPIDER by the who anyone else know it?

if you leave me now, chicago, showing my age a bit

'crying' roy orbison makes me just well you know

I will try that if I do it again, god you were good, only 2 sarnies I had 5 course chinese!!! hope you are feeling better today. it really is one day at a time. Your message was very similar to one i put on the other day, but next day back in right frame of mind. have a good day today xx

at least you can type when you are drunk, when i came on here sozzled I read the messages afterwards and what a load of twaddle I wrote. lol everyone was taking the p out of me. dont be to hard on yourself we are only human and fried egg sarnies mmmmmhmmmm who could resist.

Thanks, I am a bit better today, even when I heard the message on the phone from the vets about her ashes. hurt but didnt cry. Walked over 10 miles today, uphill and down dale, was godd but ache like billyo now. 6 months ago I would have fainted at the first hill. So I proud of myself, and...

Katy, Katy, Katy all this time you have been a strong support to me so here I am now for you. You have been doing brillinatly and life goes on, stop beating yourself up, to be honest what you are eating sounds horrible so it is hardly surprising you are getting a bit excited by the prospect of...

you are all too kind, you ve made me cry again. I know what you mean and I have all the intentions in the world to keep going but the gremlins keep getting me. I just want to say my dog was fantastic, she had cancer and to the end she was brave and beautiful and retained her sense of humour...

Thanks Katy, one of the problems is i have just lost my dog, after 12 and half years. big gap!

You've all made me cry now.

dont want anything but to let off steam. I was doing so well, completely lost the fecking plot, peed off fed up and angry cant get that oomph back dont know what to do, tried to read other entries to get back into right state of mind and all i want to do is gorge on anything that comes my way...

lol ditto!!

thats all i did, started off with 6 am up to around 48 now. small steps and its amazing how quickly it will come back. keep going

When Istarted I was going to keep it quiet, but the results were so dramatic in the first few months that I couldnt. My colleagues are fascinated by it. I am getting used to it now and dont go on about it as much but they are always asking me. Yesterday I told one that I had crossed the next...

Just want to say hello and good luck. You can do this. dont know if you have done one of these diets before, I hadnt I had no idea but I have lost 107lbs now since sept so you will be losing like mad before you know it.

Dont forget dog owners, they are scum most foul, more persecuted than smokers, drinkers and druggies in that order.

foxtrot just watch the water intake, too much is dangerous, the water as I understand it helps flush out toxins and as water is retained in our muscles if we dont get enough then it clings onto it if we dont keep drinking it, if you get my drift.

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Did they explain why it might be ketosis, diabetics are in permanent ketosis and I have not heard of their livers being damaged by it, the disease affects so many other things I know.

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Chin p petal we all have days like this, mine are most days when I speak to my parents, both going ga ga, its hard work and I dont ave great deal of patience and you have got porly child and hubby to think of, forget your mum and bro for the mo!! enjoy hubby tnight and have a cuddle. As for...

thanks Jim made me feel really good cos I thought it all looked disgusting and I would prefer a good salad, never thought I would say that!!!

billy elliot every time

Hi as you say everyone is different, It has taken me since 18th Sept 2008 to lose 82lb, not all easy going but bearable.

My local paper had suggestions in this week on how to beat the credit crunch and suggested a come dine with me competition of your own, anyone up for it!!! As for Dawn if it was alcohol and I suspect it was then she shouldnt have been allowed on the programme, I thought it was rather sad and...

Loved this weeks thought they were getting a bit tame, can you imagine them turning up at your door saying they were coming for dinner. I would sue channel 4!!lol

I saw this in the Makro flyer, told OH about it and he made some rather rude suggestions about it! I thought it looked brill but expensive.

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I too never accepted that HELP was available and thought I knew what was

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cant wait until I can say the same!

Kinda worrying as the red bhaired lady is MD of a well known WLS company too - not a very good advert! Grom you are kidding!!!! Terrible advert.

Ive re read Shells post and I dont think she meant to say WLS was the easy option, I was ignorant of it as I said until now and that programme really helped me see what it means to make that decision. It worries me a lot that soooo many people are having this surgery and what that means for...

I watched your link to You tube, dont you think that the way CELEBS talk about WLS make sit sound like someone waves a magic wand and everything is ok? I didnt know anything about these ops until I came on this site and watched that programme last night and you really have to be desperate to...

Comments about looking in the mirror. I havent done so for years blanking all out but hair etc like you others but have you gone shopping and seen yourself in a shop window and nearly cried at how awful you look.

glad someone else started this, poor boy he deserves better, all that I Love You stuff and her acceptance that it was the death of her other son that was an excuse she knew what she was doing she should have been prosecuted. Does anyone know what happened to him did he lose the weight?

i was just talking to my sister who has done liter life and she dosnt want to do it again as her hair fell out, I made a comment and she said hadnt she told me about that as a side effect well she hadnt but as I am doing W8 which is similar but allows real food my hair is actually in better...

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GOOD LUCK ALL

WOW! I would answer 'I hate myself with a passion' even when thin I felt huge and unlovable. I feel rejected by everyone and the resultant catch 22 is one minute I can feel happy and relaxed but it takes the simplist of things to make me go into self defeating, mind numbing self hatred and...

Very interesting, like others I am most of those, didnt realise that was going to be such a battle!

why put yourself through it though? why the heck should you have to cry into your pillow, this marriage does not sound like it will do anything to support your own poor self image but will just reinforce it every day. it should be you and H2B against the world and if it is not then you will...

I have tried counselling, and EMDR. I have dealt with some of the really clinging stuff from when I was 9years old and other stuff but one issue which I cant put on an open forum will not be dealt with and stays like a never healing knife wound to my soul. Sorry to be depressive, I am not most...

You just have to start loving yourself for you who are. Stop the negative self talk and flatter yourself with positive affirmations. “I am lovable and capable”, “I accept all the different parts of myself,” “I fully accept and believe in myself just the way I am”, “My feelings and needs are...

rudolf

Hi, seen your post and know the doubts and fears you are having, i am ten years older than my husband, he was 21 when we started. I married him in August after nearly 14 years together and I am sure his family still expect him to leave me!. I was at my heaviest when we did the dirty deed and...

I can only go on what happened with my mum when her mum died a few years ago. She had spent all her life 62 years trying to be the daughter she wanted her to be and failed miserably, I was shocked at the effect this womans death had on my very stong minded mum, it took her years to get over it...

I know what you mean about ending it all, I had got to the point where I thought it would be easier just to die, save everyone worrying about me. It was easy to ignore the problem than do something about it and if I never woke up again then who really cared. THEN!!! via my sister I discovered...