25 stone to 19 stone in 8 months.

Good to see you back. I too have taken Prozep (the liquid version of prozac cos I can't swallow tablets) and found it just took the edge off. I was only on it for about 18 months. I hope you manage to get to aqua fit soon - i know from personal experience that sometime the hardest bit with exercise is actually getting out of the door - but once I go, I start to feel alot better. Endorphins are magical little things. Have you spoken to the nice new lodger about some motivation and help? You never know until you ask.
Hope to see you posting more again soon xx
P.s don't apologise for eating carrot cake - you're only human x
 
Hi Helena,

I've just had a catch up, after being off the forum for most of the past 2 months. I'm sorry to hear you're struggling. I hope you find a solution that works for you, weather that's natural remedy, anti-depressants or an alternative. I like your point about what kind of response works well for you, I know sometimes tough love works for me, but you are absolutely 100% right that if it doesn't work for you then it is of no help whatsoever, and there is a difference between tough love and bullying. It might seem frustrating sometimes when your advise is not taken (I do not mean this in anyway as a criticism, just a general comment in any situation, weight loss, relationships etc) but if your advice doesn't work for that person then however well meaning it was intended it is not the RIGHT advice.

I hope that if we ever had a difference of opinion (we do, it seems on certain women's issues) that we'd be able to discuss it with mutual respect without any form of "kick in the teeth" which are unnecessary and I feel brings a persons argument down a whole lot of pegs! If the only argument people have is to resort to insults and personal attacks then their argument wasn't very good to begin with, was it?

I am always here for support should you need it, I think we've all been guilty of a stray cake occasionally and know that dealing with the fallout afterwards if difficult.

Llama
XxX
 
Hershey:



"I'm on citalopram...After 10 days on it now I am a new me.


That's the ones I've got in the unopened box. You say they only tae 10 days to work? Well it's still an option.


"thought possibly you had a corner bath of something. I wish i did."


Oh me too! I used to absolutely adore luxuriating in my bath. I'd be in it for hours, with a pillow, pot of tea, magazines, audio books. Haha used to let some water out and top up with hot. Never came out till my fingers were wrinkly! Four years ago I had a shower installed in my bedroom. Never had a bath since. Boo hoo. Big time waster, but soooo relaxing!


"I hope your friend can help you relax!"


He gave me a really thorough, all-over back-scratching. It made all the tension just fall away. Also did some work on the knotted muscles. We watched 4 episodes of Mock the Week and laughed like drains!


Ladyfelsham
- How gracious of your Ladyship to allow us to call you Susie!


"I often come home with something that another mischievous shopper has put in there!"


Well, whoever follows you must have followed me. I ate the whole damned cake. My boyfriend didn't want any of the 8 slices. Bugger! Worse, my six-stone Russian lady lodger, having caught me sobbing at my desk yesterday morning (dammit- I thought she was out!) bought me a humungous amount of Maltesers to "cheer me up". This is after I have told her ten times never to bring me chocolate! It goes like this:

"Please don't bring me chocolate."
"Vy I must no bring choclit?"
"Because I am on a diet."
"You no need diet! You bootiful lady, no diet!"
"But I want to get fitter."
"No, you luffley lady, no diet!"

Then she skips her 6 stone way out of the door and walks into town without a care in the world. Grr.

Jojo:


"sometime the hardest bit with exercise is actually getting out of the door"


OMG YES! You have hit the nail right on the head. Once I am in the water I am genuinely really happy (once my poor nipples have got used to the cool water!)


"Have you spoken to the nice new lodger about some motivation and help?"


Nope. TBH he makes me feel really ashamed of myself. The whole time he is not at work he is on 10 mile runs or 50 mile (yes 50 that is not a typo!) cycle rides. He has a fabulous, slim, muscular physique and is incredibly handsome, too (down, girl!) I honestly don't know what he can do for me. I am so "far gone" in the super morbid obesity continuum. And it's not fair to ask him to spend his leisure time doing for free what he does all day for money, especially as he works 12 hour shifts many days. Lastly, he's moving out on 1st March as his job ends, and if I am to have a personal trainer it needs to be someone ongoing. I did have one, but he dropped dead whilst jogging to work one morning (I kid you not!)


Mourners pay tribute at funeral of sportsman Tyrone Wildman - Hastings and St. Leonards Observer


I still miss him :-( Being Jamaican he found big, curvy women attractive (long story) so I didn't feel bad about myself around him. It's really embarrassing for a super morbidly obese woman to discuss weight and fitness issues with superfit young men who you know find you physically repulsive.


Llama:


Thank you for your super-kind message!


"I hope that if we ever had a difference of opinion (we do, it seems on certain women's issues) that we'd be able to discuss it with mutual respect without any form of "kick in the teeth"


My boyfriend is a staunch Tory whilst I am a Socialist but we have never argued about it. My closest female friend had been entrenched for decades in her defence of men's right to "porn and prost" and women's right to supply it. We debated it several times without once resorting to unpleasantness or falling out, so yes, you are absolutely right. One day she started reading serious reports about prost, and actually looked at some online porn for the first time. Within days she had completely changed her mind about both issues and at her behest we co-founded an abolition group this week. I am stunned at how quickly she changed her mind. All it took was for her to see the facts. Once reality replaced her fantasy version of the two trades - poof! - she was converted.



"I think we've all been guilty of a stray cake occasionally"


Yes, but why do I keep taking in all these strays? I should send them to the rescue centre where they can be sent out to good homes!




"I am always here for support should you need it"


Aww honey! That is a very nice thing to say. Thank you! Mwah! xxx


A police officer visited this morning and took a statement re: my thug neighbour. I told her that this time I want him prosecuted. She said I have no witness. I said his wife was in the car. She said it's not likely that his wife will testify against him. This was the same PC who arrested my former lodger for rape last year. It makes me cringe, that the police have been to my home so many times lately. She is going to make out a report to social services because the torrent of filthy abuse was spat out within earshot of his 3-yr-old daughter. She is also going to ask the Hate Crimes Team to contact me to give "victim support", because nowadays abusing someone for their weight is taken as seriously as abusing them for disability, religion or race. I was glad to hear that!

I just noticed that GrumpySpacePrincess has lost over 5 stone. Amazing! Oooh I'd love that. But I don't want to give up my cake and chocolate and stuffing myself stupid to get it. What a paradox!

Helena xxx
 
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Ladyfelsham - How gracious of your Ladyship to allow us to call you Susie!

LOL why thank you kindly - although there's actually nothing in the least ladylike about me :D And also LOL on the Russian lady lodger, she means well I guess, and I love the accent! :)

And thanks for posting in the article.
 
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I have gained 16 pounds (1st 2) in just 8 weeks.

Lowest weight was 329 (23st 4) in November. Today 342 (24st 6).

Which means I have now only lost 10 lb since the restart on 9th August (at 25st 2). That is 5 months. Just 10 lb in 5 months.

Which means there is no hope at all that I can reach my stated goal of "25 stone to 19 stone in 8 months", because I have only 3 months left of that 8 months, and nobody can lose 5 stone in 3 months. Not even with a bypass. So the very name of this thread signifies failure.

It takes 8 weeks of hard work to lose 16lb. And 8 weeks to put it back on.
 
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I know it's frustrating but you have proved you can lose weight. You have the ability. In 3 months you could lose 3 stone and that plus 10lb is 52lb or nearly 4 stone! That would make a huge difference in how you feel. Are you still going on the holiday? Try taking one meal at a time. Sit down and write each day's breakfast lunch and tea and buy what you need and stick to it. With each meal followed reward yourself with a big tick or a smiley face, just something visual to keep you going. Each successful meal adds up to a successful day and each day = a great week and each week you'll have a great loss. Just try it, it will work. You can do this xx
 
Hi Lou ... many thanks to you, my sister in slimming!

Right, we are back together on an even footing, you lost 14lb and me only 10lb now :-(

Thanks for the ideas.

I'm feeling terribly shocked by the weight gain and strangely subdued today. All I have eaten so far is a bowl of live yoghurt with grapes, bananas and plums chopped up in it.

I am very hungry, but I want to get used to feeling hungry and being OK with it.

Have to somehow break the addiction to overeating again. It's a very powerful impulse, and I don't know how to control it other than, as you say, decide in advance what I am going to eat, and stick to it. And if I am still hungry, somehow stave off the craving ... with liquids, I suppose ... water, tea, cup a soup.

Also, I should spend more time in bed (that seems to have worked before). Lately I have been staying up till crazy times like 1am, 2am! This has two knock on effects. Firstly I end up eating about 10 or 11pm, whereas if I had gone to bed, I would not be eating anything at that time of night) and secondly when I feel dozy all day I seem to be driven to eat to sort of "perk myself up". So, in bed by 10pm at the latest, and lie in in the mornings, too.

More long, hot showers, more personal grooming like shaving my legs and stuff. I dunno why, but getting into "taking care of myself" mode seems to help with the dieting as well.

Take my vitamins and supplements religiously. When I stop looking after myself, I forget to take them.

Go to the pool. But not today. Have sat in swimsuit all day, but cannot force myself out of the house.

This is my statement of intent, Lou.

I have started!
 
glad your in a better frame off mind helena and trying hard to get back in to the healthy eating mode x x
 
Great positive post Helena :)

Have a very good day today, if you get hungry have some fruit or something, drink your 2 litres of water and then weigh tomorrow. Give it til about 11 to make sure you wee out all you drank today and I bet you will have a loss. And that will spur you on.

Let me know how you get on xx
 
You definitely have to be in the right mood. You CAN do it and you WILL do it. You've done it before and you will do it again.
 
I dunno why, but getting into "taking care of myself" mode seems to help with the dieting as well.

Hi Helena, great positive post - really good to hear!

I know exactly what you mean - i cut and dyed my hair, been doing facial treatments and body moisturisers, and even been looking at dresses online and dreaming of the day I will wear them :).

We're here for you, love.
 
Thanks to all my ladies, titled and otherwise.

Discovered that Baby Steps are needed, as getting straight in 100% feels too much of a shock.

Baby Steps Phase 1

~ log food intake, so I can SEE the calories, which makes me come face-to-face with what I am doing to myself. I think not logging is actually an avoidance technique, as though if you don't log it, somehow it ain't gonna end up on your hips! Duh!

~ I must drink a pint of fruit tea in the morning, THEN I can have my reward of a pint of superstrong "proper" tea.

~ Have a huge portion of food at one sitting, since this is what my body is craving at the moment. I can work on splitting it into two equal portions later.

~ Take supplements (starting today)

~ Sleep more by going to bed by 1030. (starting today)

~ no more trips to the newsagent for ad-hoc chocolate

So that's me, sliding back gently into 100% mode.
 
Thanks to all my ladies, titled and otherwise. Discovered that Baby Steps are needed, as getting straight in 100% feels too much of a shock. Baby Steps Phase 1 ~ log food intake, so I can SEE the calories, which makes me come face-to-face with what I am doing to myself. I think not logging is actually an avoidance technique, as though if you don't log it, somehow it ain't gonna end up on your hips! Duh! ~ I must drink a pint of fruit tea in the morning, THEN I can have my reward of a pint of superstrong "proper" tea. ~ Have a huge portion of food at one sitting, since this is what my body is craving at the moment. I can work on splitting it into two equal portions later. ~ Take supplements (starting today) ~ Sleep more by going to bed by 1030. (starting today) ~ no more trips to the newsagent for ad-hoc chocolate So that's me, sliding back gently into 100% mode.

That's a great plan Helena, well done xx

Add me on MFP if you like, I think the icon shows up by name on the desktop site of minimins. You can do this. Baby steps will soon turn into a weeks work of good days and you'll definitely be glad you started.

A good motto: Imagine yourself in 6 months!

Keep aiming for that and when you get there you can look back and be proud xx
 
Dear Helena,
so good to see you back here and making plans.
have you watched any of the horizon diet programmes? I just too the test - just Internet search bbc diet quiz and it'll come up.

I am a feaster!!! Which makes sense because I just DO NOT know when to stop. !!! Would be really interesting to know which category to align to, and then to think about what approach to take to your diet. It's hot some really good tips on there.

Baby steps and good acheivable goals are a great way to keep going, and I really hope you'll get into the swing of it and enjoy achieving your goals. Here's to a losing 2015 for both of us xxxx
 
Hi Helena, just dropping in to say well done for getting back on track. Your motivation is inspiring me to get off my backside and get back on plan with you! You can do it lovely!
 
Oh I meant to ask H, can I add you as a friend on MFP? I'll send you a friend request on there...
 
well done
you have took your fist baby steps good on you x x x
 
I think logging everything is a great idea - it's really helping me keep to the plan on SW :)

Great to read about your motivation, it's sounding great!
 
Hi Helena :)
Here to sub to your diary. I've been reading it for the past 2 days, well done on your weight loss so far.
Mini goals are definitely the way forward, it makes everything seem less daunting xx
 
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