Not that I would, but, do u ever feel like crashing the Ww and SW boards and screaming "it can be so much easier, we've discovered the secret to losing weight!". Silly I know but I have done both diets and lost some weight on them, but both just over complicate the equation really! I mean that if you calorie count you pick an item, you find the calories and you log it. Ww, you find a food, then you search for the points, then you log it, and some foods may be worth say 1 pt, but if you have 2, it doubles and becomes 3 points??!! And you can eat free fruit and veg ( but within reason?!). We take the food at face value and log it, done! Then I looked at Sw forums, and all the hea's, heb's, syns, trying to secretly make 'free' recipes, like pizza made with a cauliflower base, just do it can be classed as free! Now we can have a pizza expess pizza for quite low calories or make our own using wraps etc, just common sense, and no trying to cheat the system so you can eat! I can honestly say I have never been more satisfied food wise than I have CCing, and sometimes you just want to shout from the roof tops that you've discovered the secret and it doesn't need to be difficult, you dont need to pay for it, it's on the packets of food we eat, and alot of it is just common sense, commitment, and a bit of hard work.. Sorry that's my rant for the day!!