Thanks,auto is turned off, and Mr always updates. I just wish it accepted where the Apps/ folders are when they've been sorted on phone/pad. Instead I think it only sets them in stone if you've moved them on iTunes. But being as iTunes keeps crashing on my laptop,Mr had to set up another account on his comp,and redo my phone from their. Where his comp is,it's not possible for me to sit for an hour manually moving Apps where I have them ,for it to store them. I could do it on my laptop ,but like I said,it keeps crashing updates,and saying there's not enough space. My Mr is pretty techie,he's been through my laptop countless times and there's no reason there's not enough space for iTunes to perform updates. Last update ended up with nothing on my phone after having no other option than factory settings blah. Took Mr two days get all Apps/ contacts etc back. Thanks x