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nicci79

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Hi There,

I am on week 4 of vlcd, i did CD for the first 2 weeks, i am currently doing Exant and still have 2 weeks worth left, and thought maybe i would mix it up again and try slim and save!

So my questions are these::confused:

1) If i was to do slim and save will it mess up what i am doing at the moment??

2) On slim and save do we still need to do the food break as there is a meal involved?

3) are the products as nice as every one says??

I know these are probably obvious questions, but i would like to ask rather than guess

Thanks peeps x x :D
 
Anybody??
 
1) If i was to do slim and save will it mess up what i am doing at the moment??

No, it won't mess up what you're doing at the moment however S&S is a 4 pack per day diet (or 3 plus protein) so don't mix and match with Exante packs. If you want to do both then do a whole day of Exante and a whole day of S&S and then you should be fine.

2) On slim and save do we still need to do the food break as there is a meal involved?
The S&S advice is to take a break after 12 weeks whatever one of their plans you are following but this is because the NICE guidelines say that a VLCD should not be followed for longer than 12 weeks. This is because there haven't been any studies for longer than this I believe more than it's proven that longer than 12 weeks is an issue. Many people do follow the diet for longer than 12 weeks. Personally I have scheduled my breaks around times when I have wanted a break such as a holiday or Xmas etc. however I know that I can get back on track quite easily. I know that some people really struggle to get back on track after a break so you may wish to just carry on without a break.

3) are the products as nice as every one says??
Oh yes, they're lovely :). You may not like them all (cottage pie is the food of the devil in my opinion ;)) but there should be a good variety that you will enjoy. Best thing to do is buy the sample pack to find out what you like and what you don't.
 
S&S is a fully ketogenic VLCD its identical in that respect to CD.

In what way do you mean 'mess up'


i ment with having the food, will it mess it up. sorry i didn't make it very clear did i! x
 
Sorry again, i ment have 1 month exante 1 month s and s x x
 
Doesn't mess it up if you stick to what is allowed on the plan.
 
Its not having 'real' food that would impact on your losses its all down to calorie intake. Even incorporating the protein S&S is, if done correctly, well within the VLCD rules. The big difference between S&S and other VLCDs is S&S are the first to do something about the fact people get sick of bland shakes and horrible soup and have come up with an alternative plan.

You only need to look at the losses around the forum to see that it works every bit as well as any other plan does.
 
Alizonne also has real food sachets - ommlettes, potato pie (Good savoury taste), chicken nuggets, feta cheese, pizza and more with salad at lunchtime and veggies (some free and a list of restricted veggies - 200grammes max total a day) and rhubarb. IT makes c 800 calories - and our losses seem the same as 100% shakes. We learn as we shed the weight some healthy eating habits. Who knew you can have a great salad with just half a tomato?

3/4 of the way through, we add in a protein meal - meat/fish/eggs/dairy products etc to our evening sachets - and then close to target phase through introducing a real breakfast, real snacks fruit etc. I'll be there in a stone - lovely thought. I think S&S is a great programme as it, like Alizonne, supports real life when you need it to.

You are doing great, NIcci> Well done. I was a similar starting weight. I've shed nearly 6 stone in under 5 months. I had no idea I could do this. I just decide to do it each day and it works.

Have fun having an Exante day and an S&S day.

Ali
 
Hi guys, thank you for your replies i really appreciate it!

I have never heard of Alizonne, i will be looking into that too now! so 1 month Exante, 1 month S&S and the other month Alizonne then. i was just wondering if the different diets will keep this journey interesting for me! not that i am bored or anything as i am having great loses, but it is just to have a bit of variety with it!

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Alizonne also has real food sachets - ommlettes, potato pie (Good savoury taste), chicken nuggets, feta cheese, pizza and more with salad at lunchtime and veggies (some free and a list of restricted veggies - 200grammes max total a day) and rhubarb. IT makes c 800 calories - and our losses seem the same as 100% shakes. We learn as we shed the weight some healthy eating habits. Who knew you can have a great salad with just half a tomato?

3/4 of the way through, we add in a protein meal - meat/fish/eggs/dairy products etc to our evening sachets - and then close to target phase through introducing a real breakfast, real snacks fruit etc. I'll be there in a stone - lovely thought. I think S&S is a great programme as it, like Alizonne, supports real life when you need it to.

You are doing great, NIcci> Well done. I was a similar starting weight. I've shed nearly 6 stone in under 5 months. I had no idea I could do this. I just decide to do it each day and it works.

Have fun having an Exante day and an S&S day.

Ali

Hi, Can you explain clearly what alizonne is and how much it cost? No much info on website.
 
Of course, Starsy.

Alizonne was developed by a Dutch GP and is also supervised by specialist Alizonne trained GPs. There are various tests before you start - including blood tests and BMR. They write a plan based on your history and metabolism - so slow losers know from the start that it will take them longer. Blood tests are repeated every 4-6 weeks unless you've an issue that means they need them more often.

There are weekly visits to the clinic for weigh in, ultrasound and endermologie treatments and to buy the next week's food. Alizonne includes 5 high protein sachets a day, with a salad from free list at lunchtime and veggies from free and a 200 grammes list at supper time. Sachets include omlettes and some other foods as well as soups and drinks. So you eat daily and get trained to eat healthier foods. They adapt the diet and the supplements if you have special needs or medical issues.

With the sachets, supplements, treatments, GP reviews and travel to the clinic, it's also a financial commitment - over £200 a week. The GP sees you monthly and after you get to target, there are monthly monitoring visit - so you get helped if you aren't managing to maintain. Weight losses are usually a stone a month for women, more for men. I've lost an average 18lbs per month - and my skin has retracted really well. I'm down more than 10 inches on waist and hips. I'm post menopausal so am pleased with that.

The veggies take the calories up to c800 a day - and mean that you can have some lovely food. I just requested my meal for my daughter in law's wedding - and will get something like this: Pecks Restaurant | Alizonne

When I've lost 70% of the weight, I'll move onto Phase 2 - with lean meat/fish/scallops etc for the evening meal, and at 90% of weight lost then phase through adding in other food groups. At target, the GP signs you off, with a detailed plan based on your BMR at that new weight.

I chose Alizonne as I had repeatedly failed with other ways of weight loss and my DH was worried about medical probs on vlcds. So when I met two people last autumn, who had 7st and 5st respectively and looked like they had always been slim, I decided to do Alizonne. You can read more about it on Dawn's blog: Disappearing Dawn

Yes it's expensive - but I haven't been hungry, have had good care (so have a happy husband) and I don't expect to need surgery to remove excess skin when I'm at goal, so for me, it's worth it.
 
Just googled it ...... Looks like it costs about £220 per month. Think I'll stick to S&S..............unless I can loose three stone in one month of course ha ha. ...
 
The price is ridiculous has to be said !!
 
hobekat said:
Just googled it ...... Looks like it costs about £220 per month. Think I'll stick to S&S..............unless I can loose three stone in one month of course ha ha. ...

I've lost nearly 2stone in a month on s&s, and it's cost me less than 1week on that one! So I know which I'll be recommending ;)
 
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