these 'ketostix' things..

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  1. fat boy slim

    fat boy slim gaggin for a beer!

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    the chemist gave me some...for nowt... but no instructions (aye aye i nar ive go to piss on it;)) but what colour will indicate the state of ketosis im in..she said dark is good but im sure i read some where on here that clear/pink is good? which is correct? eh? eh? eh?

    thanks in advance:confused:
     
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  3. lillie

    lillie weighs a lot less

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    it will be darker in the morning mid to light pink is good ,no change means not in ketosis ,if its dark pink mid dayish you need to drink more as you are dehydrated xx
     
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    Burgundy ketostix

    My chemist told me burgundy was good and that I was into strong fat burning ketosis and it showed i hadnt wavered from the lipotrim ? Im confused now, any medical people out there with any more info?
     
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    I'm not sure that's correct, I was always told that too dark meant you weren't drinking enough water. Light pink was best as clear meant you weren't in ketosis.

    Don't hold me too it though as I'm certainly not a chemist or a medical professional :eek:
     
  6. nictastic

    nictastic Says it as it is!!!

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    mid pink in the morning is good, could go neg through out the day as you drink soooo much water; however youare still in keotosis...they are just not showing up as your Water intake dilutes them in your wee!
    If you are dark pink/burgundy you need to drink lots more water xx
    Anything above beige and you are burning fat and are in keotosis xxxx
     
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    My chemist showed me the bottle and told me the darker the better.....her husband is doing LT too and she told me that he is right in the dark purple.........try and google it for a answer

    xxx
     
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    nictastic Says it as it is!!!

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    [​IMG] [FONT=arial, helvetica]A Quick primer on the Ketone Test Strips...[/FONT]

    [FONT=arial, helvetica]Questions about ketones, ketosis, KetoStix, and its implications and misconceptions have always been one of the most common querries at Low Carb Luxury. We'll try and clear up some of those mysteries here.

    [FONT=arial, helvetica]So... what are they?[/FONT]
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    You'll hear them referred to as KetoStix (the original brand name), Urine Test Strips, Reagent Strips, Ketone Testing Strips, and Lipolysis Test Strips.

    Depending on the plan you follow and whether you are new to this way of life, or an old timer from the 70's, you'll be referring to them as one name or another if your plan calls for being in Ketosis.

    Please note, we're not here to debate the merits of Ketogenic vs non-Ketogenic diets here, so don't send me mail of disagreement. For me personally, being in Ketosis is my ideal state and keeps my body's systems at their best. The Ketosis we're talking about here is what Dr. Atkins refers to as "Benign Dietary Ketosis" (or BDK), and should never be confused with Acidosis — a dangerous state for diabetics and those in advanced starvation where acetone builds in the blood and tissues. People will sometimes tell you that producing ketones is dangerous for the body. This is simply misinformation. They're confusing ketosis (the state from a Ketogenic diet) with ketoacidosis (or acidosis) which occurs in uncontrolled diabetes and/or starvation.
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica]Ketones?[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica]
    Ketones are incompletely burned carbon fragments. The very fact that they are less efficient as fuel is what makes them give you that 'metabolic advantage.' Some of the calories burned are not used to their full capacity... hence the person can eat more calories when in ketosis than when not, and still lose the same amount of weight.

    Ketoacids are short (four carbons long.) It's important because in that way they are able to penetrate cells to feed them when there is no glucose present. The fat stores accumulate fat as very long fatty acids. They're ordinarily difficult to break down because they're so long.

    When the body must use its fat stores for energy (our goal to lose weight), these fat cells begin to release the long fatty acids into the blood.

    To be used as fuel, particularly by the brain, the fatty acids go to the liver where they are literally cut into two carbon fragments (ketoacids.)

    They are then utilized (burned) by many tissues, including the brain. The brain operates just as well on a diet of ketoacids as it does on glucose. What's left (the incompletely burned fragments) are called ketones, and they are what spill into the urine to be swept from the body.
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica]So in a nutshell...[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica]
    When the body is in the fat burning state — where it has no carbohydrate to burn and is breaking down body fat for fuel, the body is in a state of ketosis-lipolysis (ketosis for short.) This is the only metabolic pathway for fat breakdown (lipolysis.) Therefore, there is no lipolysis without ketosis, no ketosis without lipolysis. The two terms are biologically linked and, therefore, it is appropriate that they be linguistically linked.

    So being in ketosis simply means that you're burning your fat stores and using them as the source of fuel they were meant to be.
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica]This is where the test strips come in...[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial, helvetica][​IMG] While they are in no way necessary to the diet, most of us feel more secure with a way to test to know if we are in ketosis at any given time and at what level. The test strips provide a quick and private way to determine that. Simply dip the reagent end of the strip into a urine specimen (collected in a clean cup) and remove immediately. Or alternatively, (the method most of us prefer)
    — wet reagent area of the strip by passing through the urine stream. Tap edge of strip to remove excess liquid and check color within 10-15 seconds against the color chart provided on all test strip brands' bottles.

    A beige or cream color indicates NO KETOSIS detected. Any shade of pink/purple indicates some level of ketones in the urine. Some people get very hung up on the fact that their friend's/husband's/daughter's etc strip shows a darker color all the time, etc. We are all different. Some of us lose better (and feel better) at lighter or darker levels. You'll soon learn what feels right for you.
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica]What if your sticks don't "turn"?[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial, helvetica]A negative result does not always mean you're not in ketosis. If you're keeping your carbs below a certain level (different for different people, but the 20 to 40 carbs per day range is a safe bet), you're probably in ketosis. Some people use their ketones more efficiently, and indeed make fewer of them, hence their lack of "spill" into the urine.

    Keep in mind, though, that it's possible to keep your actual carb count low (say at around 30 grams), and still side-step ketosis. The culprits? Most often it's from eating foods that contain even a small amount of "High Fructose Corn Syrup" (HFCS), which can cause a strong insulin spike and halt fat burning. HFCS is far more destructive to your health and your weight loss than regular sugar.

    You might also be a person who reacts to aspartame intake with an insulin release. The Atkins Center reports up to 25% of people have such a reaction to aspartame (NutraSweet.)

    An appreciable amount of trans fats in the diet can also halt weight loss and fat breakdown. Why? Because trans fats are artificial fats that the body fails to recognize as "real", and attempts simply to store them, taking an "I'll deal with it some other time" approach.
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica]Are they right for me?[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica]
    In my personal opinion, if you become obsessive about your levels at every hour of the day and in comparison with others' or where you think you should be, then don't bother with the sticks. If you can use them sensibly — once a day or when you want to detect your level because of dietary changes etc, then they can be great tools. I probably use them 3 to 4 times per week.
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica]Which ones and where?[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica]
    There are a number of brands to chose from. The original — Ketostix by Bayer — is the most common and the easiest to find in most pharmacies. If you don't see them, ask. Also, it can't hurt to price-shop. I've seen them anywhere from $9.99 to $24.99 in different stores. Many of the online low-carb and health/drug stores carry test strips as well. Some of these are "off-brands" and private label. There's Uriscan and Atkins label. It doesn't matter which you use, but I've found it's best to pick a brand and stick with it because they color slightly different and it can get confusing if you're brand-switching. Also remember, these are marketed ostensibly for diabetics to check for ketones where there should be none, so please ignore the paper inserts in the box if you're using the sticks for detecting ketosis from within a low carbohydrate (ketogenic) diet.
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    Just found that site, and was gonna post but you beat me to it :giggle:
     
  10. MoCabaDaFutureJarHEAD

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    I do not get ketostixs....Should I buy them????
     
  11. bex!

    bex! im on my way to slimdom!

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    up 2 u hun. if u stickin 100% u will get to ketosis. ive not bothered, but each to there own. ask ur chemist they might av em. :)
     
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    LipoLisa Looking a bit bloated!

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    I used ketostix to check levels, but oddly enough they were more useful to me to check that I was out of ketosis so I could drink alcohol safely! he he
     
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    My dad gets them from his GP as he is diabetic but I buy them from the chemist. I asked his GP about the colours. She explained it really simply - like being pregnant you are either in ketosis or aren't. the shades are mostly meaningless for dieters.
     
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