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i've found, in my own case, that as long as i have a small portion and nothing too carby (chips etc) that i'm ok and stay in ketosis. everyone is different though. If i have a meal i can't avoid, i have a shake in the morn, bar or shake at lunch, then at the meal - the protein, any veg and try...

After 8weeks on lighterlife i went back to the gym and did bodypump, dancefit and aqua classes and ran (3times a week) and i was fine (smaller losses though) but i did make sure i had a bar before i went and my evening shake soon after. I felt i did tone up alot and i've noticed that on exante...

i only have the banana and vanilla shakes and the exante bars or tesco slim bars. I dislike all the others. LL shakes are sweeter than exante ones! and i rather miss the fudge one. I've tried them hot, banana = lush. Vanilla turned out weird and curdled. Have you thought about taking the...

lol that is quite interesting! I'l have to measure my wrists when i get home. Not sure how it will look at my desk at work :)

i'm looking on ebay for size 14 roxy jeans! Inspiration!

Ha ha woman streaking! Everything shrinks but the beer belly! On ll it took a good 16 weeks for that to go, i hope it doesn't take that long this time around. I'm less than i was when i started that! i feel that when i'm at target weight - on food, i may use exante once in a while to keep me at...

i was thinking it was a bit quiet but i guess everyone is thinking of xmas and the social meals so not many bother. Better time to do VLCD in my opinion, think of all that temptation and weight gain just from looking at puff pastry!

Hello ello - some on here would say watch out for those bars, they contain more carbs than the shakes etc and having too many can push you out of ketosis. You'l find your balance though, with the snacking and the water, don't worry!

Hi Katt. I'm sure working solution is ok for those entering that bmi as opposed to people already at that weight. After all, you have to enter back into food gradually and thats the best way it seems. Thats what i was planning to do. I thought the guidelines were more to stop perfectly normal...

Keep with it Katts, as you said, its for you. Only you know what it means to you and how you feel about it. Everyone has their reasons for the actions they take, we shouldn't blame them for that, its human nature. If we aren't 100% one day, it doesn't matter, its having the will power to pick...

wicked, thanks for the share. I'l put it on my xmas wish list!

thanks katt :) i know, right! i would be asking how? how come we didn't do it together? Its my fault for not telling her i was doing it. I assumed she would disapprove and didn't give the chance to have her own opinion on it. As far as i know, she still doesn't know i did it. My other friends...

I feel you on this Katt. I got constant remarks and it really gets to you. No one seems to want to comment on the size 6 girl who doesn't eat and looks pale! It really hurts and feels like people are jealous but its more discomfort that you aren't what they know, what they expect to see. Does...

Hi GSQ - i think i meant in terms of whats required. Losing weight you need to not only burn the calories you need in day but then some to try and lose weight. Being slim means you need to burn the calories excess to what you need. Essentially anyway lol! I found when i came off lighterlife, i...

i agree chiefdave! we all must have gone wrong somewhere otherwise we wouldn't been where we are / were. Portion control is a big one for me. I come from a family where my dad used to use the big oval serving platter as his plate at christmas! i'm not kidding myself that i will be a reformed...

hi trueblueangel, thanks for your reply. yeah i wonder if i need something to keep me on the straight and narrow!

thanks dawndesperatetoloose! hmm i think its because i've been here before... when i came off lighterlife. i avoided those dastardly carbs for a year but slowly, bit by bit, they seem to creep in. Treat myself to dough balls, a bit of pasta, a few potatoes. I'm a vege and love all kinds of...

atomic1960 - is the rose elliot cook book any good? i too am a vege and i've looked at this book in the past but the reviews for it are terrible on amazon.

Hi Starlight Hmm interesting, i wonder - am i normal? struggling wth food choices in the past. having a weakness for carbs: i know we're supposed to learn new ones along this journey, but normal people don't need to learn that arguably! lol. Will i always be plagued by carbs tempting me in! lol...

i've got to say i do recommend it if you can get your hands on a used copy. She is quite annoying at some bits but overall she has some lovely words of wisdom and insights along the way. Its interesting how she felt about food when she was watching what she ate and how sometimes it feels like...

Hello! I was wondering what everyone intends on doing when reaching their goal in terms of diet? Does anyone hope to just stick low carb or another diet like atkins, weight watchers, slimming world etc? Thanks!! :553:

Ooo france - all that cheese and bread - my weakness! Me too - once i lost the weight i ran 4 times a week, dance class and bodypump, i loved it, couldn't get enough! We brought a house and started renovating it and it took up so much of my evenings and weekends that i didn't have time or...

Amazing loss! I think you're right, most of the first couple of weeks you feel less bloated. On lighterlife i didn't exercise at all til about 6weeks later as i felt too dizzy but then i got restless so started running for the first time. I noticed a difference in how far i couldt run before i...

chubbers - forgot to add! i'm getting on ok thanks. 13lbs off so far and week4 weighin is this monday. its my birthday this weekend and I'm taking sunday lunch off for dinner. I stayed 100% when i was on lighterlife but i don't mind this time having a few special events interrupt it. I'm...

hi chubbers, i always seem to be a size 16-18 (more the 18) even at my lowest weight which was 167lb. I'm quite broad on my hips and shoulders. Maybe i just thought i was that size because i have been most of my life. I never want to wear anything to fitted. I think i'l have to shed that little...

trueblue i have to ask - what is aerobiking? sounds intriguing!

hmm no nothing like that, are you drinking plenty of water with it? I find it sticks in my throat but i just glug it down with coffee! or nuke it for 20sec and have it gooey!

at 5ft 4in - a "healthy" BMI is 66kg (145lbs) - not that i believe in BMIs. I'm happy not being obese - one more lb and i'm out of that category!!

me? 5ft 4in. 178lbs at present.

fantastic results moonbeam! you must be really chuffed! my first 4 have been a lot slower, 14lbs so far and week4 weigh in is on monday. i'm still happy though, any loss is always something to be happy with :)

fantastic advice valentine!

hi chubbers - random question completely unrelated - you are my height and goal weight, what dress size are you? it sounds bizarre and i started a forum topic on it but my goal weight is based on my lightest weight ever and i think i'l want to continue past it when i get (hopefully) get there...

i don't think the exante ones are lovely either but you just get used to it don't you. lol. i miss the LL fudge ones! its like porridge, i'm not sure anyone loves it but we know its good for us!

sounds about right! They say a 1litre per 50lbs of body weight but most drink about 3 litres really. Its not good for you to drink too much or alot quickly so try to really space it out. Ketosis is a weird thing. I found my breath was a bit stinky, again metallic taste and smell. Its hard to...

hmm thats not positive! i'l test mine out tomorrow!

Hola, a bit late on replying but i thought i would comment. All the above are correct, it isn't for everyone and socially it can be tough but after a while you get used to it and you actually feel empowered saying no thank you. Its incredible to actually see your body change in front of your own...

i was so relieved to find coke 0 on the list but i think if i drink to much it makes me hungry, gives me a pot belly (if you can tell!) and i swear to god brings me out of ketosis but there you go - horses for courses!

thanks guys - i went out and brought a biggest loser and a couple of boxes of tesco ones (look like alpen bars!). have juts had the biggest loser choc crunch one and yeah - tasty - very similar to LL ones. Rock on! Biggest are a bit pricey though so hopefully the tesco ones are just as tasty!

Hi Papillion, thanks for replying! Have you just started on exante? I think vlcd's are fantastic, they show you how much you snacked without realising and the weight loss just encourages you to continue. I don't think its about the great losses, more understanding how you got that way in the...

Hi Little Miss Helpful -Welcome to the site! How are you finding it? Sounds like you've had some tough times in your life. Think of this as a new step in your life where things get better for you. Atleast you're here and thats the hardest part. I'm on exante at the moment. I think you need to...

thanks lordlulu! i used to do the same thing with the LL bars. cut them up in thin pieces, make them last longer. i felt a bit like a borrower but it was something that stayed with me. maybe thats why i stopped maintaining, because i stopped treating food that way. hmmm

Well done! Fantastic milestone - i bet you feel on top the world! They do say its not the destination but the journey along the way!

they do say your body retains water don't they but i don't think your body works on a weekly weigh-in basis so it never appears and disappears when you expect it to! lol. I hopped on this monday (totm) and it said 2lb loss, a day later i may have sneaked a peak at the scales and i had lost a...

I was eating my choc / orange bar for lunch and got it all over my fingers and mouse. Doh! They are sticky little suckers aren't they! Any ideas peeps when exante might make another bar that doesn't taste the same? I love these things but the 2 taste very similar. happy friday!

hi myalphabetgirls, welcome to the forum. You are such a brave person to share that with us and i wish you every success in your goals. Stay strong, be positive, don't ignore your emotions with food- just understand why you have them and try to enjoy the journey x

hmmm i'm about halfway in. someone of it is actually quite nice to read i.e how could anyone feel the same as me, phew! i'm not crazy! but some of it kinda feels a bit condescending. some of it relates to weighwatchers aswell. i was just curious if anyone else felt the same?

secrets of a former fat girl by lisa delaney. i'm reading it now and were curious if anyone else had read it?

this monday was 2weeks for me too, lost 9lb so far. i was lower on the 2nd week on LL too, then i averaged 4lbs a week so hopefully that will be the same with exante. Must be my metabolism making sense of it all! great losses lord lulu, well done on staying 100%! i used to get down about...

...or right hand click and "save image as..." - thats what i did. Save them as the weights they are. Someone above added them to photobucket and it grouped them together for you.

Was it kate moss who said that being slim felt better than any food could taste. I remember there being so much controversy over that statement but all i could think was - that is true! and whats wrong with that. When i tried on a pair of size 14 trousers and they fitted - the first time...

Just had a good old look for it, about to give up and found it again! http://apps.facebook.com/virtualfittingroom/

Thanks guys for your responses. Really shows the differences people are looking for, i guess as you say soon2b that its what feels right for you. I've been overweight all my life and i got down to 167b last year before having to quit the gym to start doing a house renovation. Its the lowest...

Hi Maybabe Is there any particular reason you want to or just get it out the way?

aha i googled it with virtual fitting room on facebook and i made it there! wicked. i'm guna get me some!

hi lord lulu, its difficult to know how i would feel i guess. i briefly remember 12 stone from last year and it felt good. but when i'm that again, will i think its not enough? hmm. right now overweight is much more appealing than obese! i guess the grass is always greener ;)

This is reposted from exante off topic becuase i have no idea where it goes!! I know this is vague and probably not just an exante thing but i thought i would ask. I'm 9days in TS and previously an LLer. I'm curious what anyone my height is looking to achieve as a goal weight? I appreciate...

oooo lord lulu i love your graphics of people - where did you get them from? re soup: i really disliked LL ones and couldn't bring myself to get the exante ones - just shakes and bars for me. Whats with that vanilla shake though? I make hot choc with the choc one, tried it with the vanilla, it...

ooo thanks dustqueen - i couldn't decide where i should ask! do i just start a new question in there?

Hi Sarette. Thanks for replying! Great losses! i feel the same. i've never been slim all my life and that weight feels comfortable to me. My dad always joked i was big boned hee hee. i meet so many people who want to slim down to be size 8 etc but thats not realistic for me!

*tumbleweed* - feeling a bit empty in here :(

hi unicornchaser sounds like you're really settling in. good on you! i love the hot choc for evening meal. You can nuke the bars too if you want warm stuff. I cut into small slices and nuke for about 30 secs (keep checking as they do burn!) Lush! Try not to drink too much water though, it can...

I know this is vague and probably not just an exante thing but i thought i would ask. I'm 9days in TS and previously an LLer. I'm curious what anyone my height is looking to achieve as a goal weight? I appreciate we are all different and we all hold our weight differently etc etc but i thought...

I may be totally out of date on this tread but i'm only just joined! In the real world, weightlifters follow ketogenic diets to lose weight/ fat without losing muscle density and they follow high fat/high cal/low carb diets and these work for them. Things like bread, pasta etc are out the...

Hola, i use a 500ml shaker from maxitone website. I've found mixing the powder with some cold water in the shaker then pour into cup and add hot water. Took a couple to figure out the hot choc needs a good shake, those lumps are gross!

Hello! On LL i stayed 100% over my birthday, xmas and new year ('09). It was so hard and i don't think i could of without my OH but i told myself that if i use it as an excuse to eat then what else would i use? Tbh it was interesting to watch how much everyone else ate. I think i learnt from...

hi noble8065, i think food week (ie. one proper meal a day) on exante are recommended because you aren't monitored by a GP, like on other VLCD like LL. When i was on that, you had to have blood pressure checks every so often. Also introducing food one little bit at a time means your body...

omg i remember the struggle to get doctors to sign my LL form and then check my blood pressure. They did not like it at all - two refused outright - surely they should support anyone wishing to lose weight. they never supported me when i asked them for help!

oooo is the chocolate shake nice as a hot chocolate?

or indeed 1st couple of days if i'd read the post dates correctly! doh! lol

hi moonbeams i used to be on LL (nov09-mar10) and started exante this monday. I'm finding it a little tougher not having 4 a day but the big bars do make up for it don't they! They taste like the peanut LL ones! I kind of miss the choc toffee ones though lol. Hows everyones 2nd week going?