Britains Fattest Man tonight

that picture of it in the bin will haunt me tonight!!

Let's get sarah-jayne to go and knock for him and find out how much he weighs, they're practically neighbours living in the same town!!

I wish people who find themselves in these situations knew about slimming world - if it's quantity they want, then they can have it, just not deep fried!!!
 
the fact that the had to get a structural engineer in to check the load bearing of the floor shocked me.. until they showed them shoring it up with accro props.. it's only a wooden floor..
 
The program has had a deep, deep effect on me. I now know absolutely for sure that I will never regain the weight I have lost with SW by eating the wrong foods again and that I will reach my new target.

To think that he got his poor, late mother to re-mortgage the house when she was ill, just so that he could quite literally feed his addiction and because of it they lost their home, was quite shocking to hear.

I really did not realise that food could do that to you, that it could become as much of an addiction as drugs, alcohol or tobacco.

It is small wonder he was so emotional. He must have felt so isolated. There is so much help for every other type of addiction.

He certainly seemed as if he was on the road to recovery and determined to be as normal as he can be.
 
food is MORE addictive than alcohol or drugs.. you can't ever quit it..
you can quit and do without alcohol and drugs and never have to be tempted again, with food you're tempted every single day..
 
True Coljak, but then on the other hand, food doesn't contain addictive chemicals like drugs or alcohol, so in theory, even though it does happen, we shouldn't become addicted to food.

Unless of course it's really tasty and then it's a different matter.........
 
chocolate gets you high... at least midly high anyway, as do many other foods.. they stimulate the bodies natural feel good chemicals
 
I watched this programe and the more I watched it, the more angry I became with him! How could he let himself get that big and not try to help himself before? What he was eating didn't look that healthy to me - white bread, thick marg, ketchup, fry-ups, crisps etc. His carers should have been cooking him a strict, healthy diet. Look when he went into hospital and they did this, and he said that he wasn't even missing the food. Proves he could've helped himself! And then to moan that his care was being taken away! Think of what that 100K could be used on instead!!

And the fact that by getting his mum to re-mortgage her house, to pay for his "addiction", meant her losing it and his sisters no longer talking to him, sorry, no sympathy from me!

Sorry, I'm still angry about him, the morning after, can you tell? ;)
 
The overiding feeling I got from watching it was shock at the amount of people that were complicit in feeding his food addiction, from the carers that provided his meals to his mum remortaging the home to continue paying for the food :( I dont think he was entirely innocent in all this, I am presuming that he was perhaps very manipulative in getting what he wanted.

I also got the impression that he was quite happy for his status quo, ie the ability to have some degree of independance with his mobility chair but that maybe he didnt really want to walk or be too independant for fear of losing his care team perhaps?

It was still a very sad story though, I particulary felt for him when the only person to see him off to the hospital was a volunteer from the Salvation Army, he must have been so isolated and alone.
 
Claireybella said:
I watched this programe and the more I watched it, the more angry I became with him! How could he let himself get that big and not try to help himself before? What he was eating didn't look that healthy to me - white bread, thick marg, ketchup, fry-ups, crisps etc. His carers should have been cooking him a strict, healthy diet. Look when he went into hospital and they did this, and he said that he wasn't even missing the food. Proves he could've helped himself! And then to moan that his care was being taken away! Think of what that 100K could be used on instead!!

And the fact that by getting his mum to re-mortgage her house, to pay for his "addiction", meant her losing it and his sisters no longer talking to him, sorry, no sympathy from me!

Sorry, I'm still angry about him, the morning after, can you tell? ;)
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Yes it comes over just a tad Claire lol.

You are quite right and I must say that my thoughts were so conflicting. On the one hand I really felt for what HE had made of himself and subsequently his life and on the other sheer disbelieve and amazement that he had allowed himself to get like that.

I was astounded when his first carer said whatever he asks me to cook, I cook for him. The very first step should have been to control what he ate because let's face it he could not get up and get it for himself.

I did have some sympathy for him though.

blue*smartie said:
The overiding feeling I got from watching it was shock at the amount of people that were complicit in feeding his food addiction, from the carers that provided his meals to his mum remortaging the home to continue paying for the food :( I dont think he was entirely innocent in all this, I am presuming that he was perhaps very manipulative in getting what he wanted.

I also got the impression that he was quite happy for his status quo, ie the ability to have some degree of independance with his mobility chair but that maybe he didnt really want to walk or be too independant for fear of losing his care team perhaps?

It was still a very sad story though, I particulary felt for him when the only person to see him off to the hospital was a volunteer from the Salvation Army, he must have been so isolated and alone.
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Once again I am in agreement.

I do hope there is a follow on.
 
ColJack said:
chocolate gets you high... at least midly high anyway, as do many other foods.. they stimulate the bodies natural feel good chemicals
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I agree!
Because body attack gets me high now...
If I miss a class I genuinely feel sad! :cry:
 
I watched it last night and just felt very sad. I can totally understand how he could let himself get that big, I might not be as big as him but it's all the same problem, just different degrees of it.

A person at 8 stone might ask of an 18 stone person how they could let themselves get that big. I'm 29st, 10 years ago I was 18 stone. I'm really determined NOW because I've reached my bottom, I've had enough. Everyone has a different "bottom", a different point when they say "enough is enough". For me it took pains in my knees and difficulty walking long distances, for him he had to be that size and bedridden before he got help.

Yes he "should" have helped himself BUT some people just don't get there, ever. Many, many alcoholics, drug users and obese people die every year. They don't want to die but they are unable to stop, unable to gain control. I find that very sad.

Addiction effects the chemicals in the brain and alters the way the brain works. What causes the chemical alteration is kinda by the by, it could be heroin or cake. They all work the same way and effect the same part of the brain, the "reward brain circuitries". The neurobiological mechanisms that can drive people to drug and alcohol addiction work the same way with food, I've studied addiction as part of my counselling course and read numerous books on the subject and they say basically the same thing.
The body naturally rewards itself with dopamine but when someone has an addiction they get a bigger dopamine kick from their addiction than the body can naturally give out itself. It's really an addiction to the bigger and bigger dopamine hits that causes increase in use, needing more and more to have the same effect on the body, hence the increase in drug use, alcohol intake, food intake, spending more, watching harder pornography etc...Different starting point but same reaction.

Him asking his Mum to remortgage the house was awful, probably very manipulative and selfish. It's called enabling. His mother was his enabler and probably very codependant to a point that she couldn't say no or didn't want to say no.

With regards to the thousands of pounds being spent on his care...I'm in two minds. Yes he SHOULD be able to help himself but it's got to the stage where he can't. So what are the local authority supposed to do with him, let him sit in his own pee? That might be a good way of actually bringing him to his bottom, make him do something about it, but it's also pretty inhumane. He needed the help and he took it. You can't tell me a smoker with lung cancer would refuse a life saving operation or that these rehab and inpatient treatment centres for addicts should be closed?!

Anyway, I found it really interesting and it's definitely spurred me on to do something about my weight. I could quite easily be that man if I don't stick to this.
 
I felt a great amount of sympathy for this guy, just shows that there is always someone worse than us.

100% agree with Coljack, it's been proven that food is more addictive than alcohol hasn't it? I think it's something to do with sugar, and as Coljack said, the fact that we can't just abstain from it.

I hope he can truly enjoy life and be happy one day.
 
I am amazed at the control food can have over my own life. I have never been one to binge. Unlike some of the stories in the SW magazines where people eat whole packets of biscuits and the over-used cliché "all washed down with a sugary drink", I put on my weight simply by eating a little bit too much on a much too regular basis.

The control I refer to is the chemical effect that I have found food must have on me.

When I am on-plan, I am so focussed. I crave fruit and veg and all things healthy. I'll have a glass of wine and really enjoy it. But sometimes I'll have some chocolate and think afterwards that I didn't really enjoy it, so it will be days, even weeks before I have any more.

But a couple of days off-plan (say at Christmas, or for a family do) when I'll have someone else's possibly high fat cooking with a couple of glasses of wine, cheese, and dessert, then that seems to set a trend for the type of food I crave and I find it really difficult to opt for the satsuma over the chocs! And if I'm not careful that can settle in and become the norm rather than the exception.

That's why I gave the chocs and leftover Christmas cake to other members of the family last Sunday and got back on plan first thing Monday morning. And I feel so much better for it.

But why do our bodies do this? Is it really how we have historically been programmed - to eat whilst things are in abundance so as not to starve in lean (pardon the pun) times? And are some people simply more sensitive to this genetic programming than others?

There's definitely more to it than simple greed. I'm just so glad that I can control it - but then I, like all of you on here, have made that active decision knowing I CAN control it. From what I have read (as I don't have a TV) this poor man seems to be have been trapped in a downward spiral and I hope he can now find a way out of it.
 
I loved the surgeon last night, he said that lions don't snack on chipmunks in between antelope and that we humans think it's not ok to experience hunger, where as really it is, it won't hurt us. I never looked at it like that before, hunger doesn't feel too nice so we automatically do something to stop it, but I doubt any of us have ever experienced real hunger.

Of course if it was as simple as eating when hungry then there wouldn't be much of a problem. What's hard is when you find it difficult to distinguish emotional hunger from physical hunger.
 
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