thanks everyone, im on to the water now with a vengance lol im drinking as i type im just waiting for next week when i can try out the bars and water flavours (hoping the water will go down quicker when it has a taste), so far ive been surving on the shakes which arent bad but i needed a change so i got a few different things today, tried the porridge which im not really a fan of took awhile to get that down, just hoping the soups are better. but thanks everyone for saying all the right things it really helps just gives me the extra determination and push to keep going, its the same as saying if everyone else can do it so can i(plus im looking forward to being slimmer lol, i need clothes but refuse to buy them as i want to lose weight and lets be honest we cant afford to keep updating our wardrobes, so im just waiting for the big blow out).