How do you syn fruit and veg?

I'm wondering, if I were to make juice using the juicer at work, how could I syn that? I love one I've invented that has an apple, loads of tomato, a little carrot and a dash of cucumber in it.. Should I do the 20cal rule or is there a better way?

Also, how comes making veg into a soup doesn't add syns where as making them into juice does?
 
Because veg doesn't contain sugar like fruit, you can over eat on veg without getting a massive sugar dose, with fruit you can overeat and get too much sugar if that makes sense

so in that...cucumber and carrot wouldn't count, 100ml apple pureed without sugar 2.5 or juice without sugar is 2. So I;d rough estimate 2.5 for 100ml. I don't think tomato is synned either. So it would just be an apple, I would say 1 apple would make about 100ml, possibly less. I could be wrong but I would say that makes it 2.5
 
I'm not sure how that bit works myself, I checked on SW online, and it says pureed is 2.5, juiced 2, dried 3. But then cooked without sugar is only 1.5. So yeah, doesn't make sense to me that bit either. No doubt someone will come along now with some amazing explanation as to why :)
 
Actually it does sort of make sense, I'm going by one apple being around thirty calories but 100ml could be made of different amounts of whole apple, puréed dead condensed so it'd take more apples, maybe.. :D
 
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