January 2009 - Starters

[westiegirl]

TI, WG & FT - you know you're doing the right thing, and for teh right reasons. As have said before, don't focus on weekly losses (or gains) but look back and celebrate your TOTAL LOSSES to date, and remember how you felt in january before starting. That should give you all the inspiration you need.

So close for so many of us, one final push, what's a couple more weeks compared to the rest of your lives??

Trouble is that I can't afford to spend £50 per week (and then buy food on top of that, which costs more than the £16 extra to be fully abstinent) to lose no weight for weeks on end.

I've handed my notice in at work and finish next Monday and so every penny I have is precious at the moment.

Unfortunately for me the decision for me is a bit more complicated

 

[westiegirl]

Sean, you can go off people you know.

Westie, my scales are not looking good either especially after putting on 2 last week but I have this holiday to get through at the end of the month first. Mind you by the time I'm back I'll have 2 stone to loose rather than 1 at this rate!!! It really does make the full abstinence rather tempting again doesn't it.

I am very tempted by abstinence again. My decision to do Lite wasn't because I was at risk of falling off the wagon - not been tempted to binge at all, even during 2 of the most stressful weeks of my life - it was mostly based around a job that I have just given up.

Do you know what you're going to do when you get back from your hols?

 

[Foxtrot]

It was going to be LLL but I think it will be the full abstinence now. Short, sharp, shock, get it done and over with. We've nothing else planned major until September apart from the charity event and I'm happy being 3 stone lighter for that at least!

 

[daisydoll]

ft and westie
we all seem to be going through similar sorts of questioning times now we are 4 months down the line.

after my moaning yesterday ive decided to stick with it til i reach my goal, (but i still am wondering if i shouldn't be looking at LLL or RTM...)

we have done really well and i think it must be the 4 month wobbles we are going through

with a bit of luck we will have sorted ourselves out in a few days lol!
daisy x

 

[Foxtrot]

My thoughts.

Normally you would come from a full and normal diet into the Lighter Life Life whether you choose the full abstinence or LLL. Either way you are greatly reducing what was before.

You either totally cut your food intake totally and go on packs or you cut down your food intake to a limited and monitored amount with packs as supplements.

You have sat at the top of the food/weight slide and have slid down it.

From both of these you slowly reintroduce food at different rates depending which way you went to bring up your glycogen, metabolism and general acceptance of food again.

To jump from full abstinence to LLL, to my mind the more I think on it, is almost as detrimental as just stuffing your face. The amount of food allowed for LLL in the little book they give you is not a lot on the way down but coming back up from the full abstinence, it's an awful lot!!!!! Just because the book has Lighter Life on the cover does not mean I'm going to lose weight.

I have stepped off the slide and I am over at the swings now not sure what my weight is doing as I've had all the food allowed on LLL in under a week and a half when it should have taken me at the very least 4 weeks to slowly reintroduce them.

I am accepting of the fact that the damage is done. I am trying to limit it by staying where I am, or within an area I call acceptable at this stage, and I will then go back over to the top of the slide and start again.

 

[slendablenda]

Come on you lot

You need to re- focus.
Consider the reasons you wanted to do LL in the first place. Did you plan to finish before you reached your target?
As far as I can see the idea is to reach yor goal and then go on to RTM at the end of which you should be about the same weight you were when you started RTM.
Regarding the cost - abstinence has got to be cheaper than LLL then it reduces to zeroby the time you've re-introduced food.
SURELY to be healthy and slim and feel good about yourself is priceless.
You deserve it after doing so well so far.
:copon:
And another thing - we've all had weeks when the weight loss has slowed down. If BL:copon:had a wobble every time she stayed the same she wouldn't be where she is today:copon:.
You don't want to become serial returners do you?

 

[westiegirl]

I know what you're saying SB, but I'm concerned that if the weight losses continue to be this slow I won't be able to afford to continue at all. I have no job as of Monday and literally can't afford to pay £50 a week to STS. My commitment to LL is not in question at all and I've not lost focus - my focus is just as strong, it's just my body, not my mind that is letting me down.

I've stuck to Lite (except the 2 transgressions which I estimate is an extra 100 calories the week before last!) and the weight has stuck - and this programme is too expensive for me to STS!

That's the reason I'm questioning going back to Developers - because what you say is right - you get to goal and then go onto RTM. My promise to myself was to follow this journey to the end, but it is the financial side that is concerning me most at the moment!

 

[slendablenda]

I do understand

I know what it's like to have money worries and it affects everything.
However, knowing what I do now about the difference losing this weight has made to my life I would s ee it as a life time investment and borrow the money or
take out a loan or SOMETHING to be able to see it through to the end this time.
I remember you saying last time that you
couldn't do RTM for personal reasons and you moved. Were you at a similar stage then?
I suspect you wouldn't be making these changes if you hadn't lost this weight so far?
As for STS, it's tough, but it has to come off eventually. (science - and I don't go there!).
Do you remember Anna? She did so well, thought she could finish it off on her own.Her life became so interesting and exciting as her confidence increased.
She lost it food and drink wise, tried all sorts of other "diets",probably spent more
than she would have done if she'd stuck to LL.
She came back on here to warn everyone else not to do the same and said sell your home, your car,whatever if necessary to see it through.
We borrow money for those things but not for an investment in ourselves??????
Good luck Westie, whatever you decide.xx

 

[westiegirl]

There is no way to borrow money for me unfortunately (don't want to go into all my personal finances of a public forum, but it's not an option ).

I think you've misunderstood me, I am not questioning giving up LL at all and going it alone (I even expressed concern to Anna when she said was going to) - it didn't work first time and I have no illusions it will this time.

I am contemplating going back onto abstinence because I know I can get to goal in a few weeks at £66 per week instead of taking what could be a few months based on my losses on Lite at £50 per week plus food costs. Financially that makes more sense to me because I can get the money together as long as it's not this amount indefinately

Job circumstances meant I had to go onto Lite and I also saw Lite as a good learning opportunity to reintoduce food when my financial situation was completely different, and I have learnt a lot, but now I am making decisions based on different circumstances - life happens and you have to adapt.

Don't worry though I will not be stopping my LL journey until I'm done

 

[daisydoll]

good on you westie!
sb as always you have a way of making sense of things - i would do anything to finish this journey - as you say investing in ourselves at the end of the day should take priority over things such as new cars etc.

its a time to be selfish for a change!

daisy x

 

[westiegirl]

Thanks Daisy, although I never considered for even a minute NOT doing LL - it was just the which way the journey was going to go.

 

[slendablenda]

Sorry Westie

You are right. I got the wrong end of the stick. I know you'll dowhat's right for you.
Wow Daisy - look at you. I bet 6 months ago yoiu never thought you'd be wearing that outfit- let alone posting your photo on a forum.
Playboy magazine here you come.
You look fabulous. xxx

 

[westiegirl]

No probs SB, and I agree wholeheartedly about the comment on Daisy's photo - WOW!!!

 

[Sean(JSF)]

WOW Daisy - look @ you!!!!

WG, glad you're sorted in your own mind about the best route for you to take, LLL never seemed like an easy option, in fact the more I learn in RTM the more convinced I am that moving from LL to Lite would be a mistake for many people, there's just too great a jump.

 

[westiegirl]

Thanks Sean, you're dead right it was a HUGE jump. You go in at a level which is at least week 3 on RTM. However I am on the programme 100% and still not losing weight for some reason - so my priority has to be getting to goal asap.

About 90% decided that I'm going back to Developers this week.

 

[sukie sue]

good for you wg !!!
this is a time to focus solely on you !!!! do what you need to do to get where you want to go . its so right what youve all said about rtm versus lll i did rtm after 5 months of abstinence 2 years or more ago and the types and volume of food re-introduce (cant spell) was so slow , but obviously it was the right way as during that time i totally re educated my palate and still had a graduall loss until i was done . after all this time i maintatined until a personal upheaval last year when i lost the plot for a while (which im now paying for :0)) so im on lll which seems great but like you said its quite allot of food compared to rtm, but its all going well but im fully prepared to go to full abstinence to get my head and body back in line if thats what it takes :0)what i do know is that either way ill be around here , this place saved me last time around xx
anyway sorry for the ramble , roundabout way of introducing myself too i guessxxx
goodluck w.g !!!

 

[Foxtrot]

Woooo!! I've stayed the same!!!!

Well actually I've gone down .1 kg so even better going downwards but not worth changing the stats for.

Happy Bunny!! Hopefully I've plateaued and can keep at this.

 

[thin_inside]

Hello Sukisue! Good to hear your story. I'm sure you will get back to where you should be.

FT - well done on sts. Good prep for your hols.

 

[slendablenda]

Welcome back Sukiesue

I'm sure you'll get back to where you want to be.
Thanks for your kind comments.

 

[slendablenda]

Well done Foxtrot

Plateau will be good. xxx