New SW rules

Perhaps EE doesn't work for everyone - but then red/green days don't work for me, since I feel deprived on them. I have dropped from 15.7 to 11.10 since the end of January this year, almost exclusively on EE.

But nobody's asking for EE to be dropped either - just that there seems no logical reason to push EE over Red/Green and certainly not to DROP red/Green as they DO work for many people.

There just seems no rational reason to drop them - so why do it? :confused:
 
But nobody's asking for EE to be dropped either - just that there seems no logical reason to push EE over Red/Green and certainly not to DROP red/Green as they DO work for many people.

There just seems no rational reason to drop them - so why do it? :confused:

I wasn't commenting on dropping red/green - I agree with you! No need to fix something that ain't broke, and green certainly makes sense for vegetarians. I just posted to say I think it makes no sense for that previous poster to say that EE goes against everything SW stands for, lol! :D
 
Sadly, something like 98% of dieters regain their weight ( I am one of them!)
No matter how many times I have said this is the last time, food always gets the better of me, I hate to think of what I have spent over the years!
Dieting is, and probably always will be, big business!!!

That's why WW and SW can offer free membership for life to people who stay within their target. Imagine if everybody who did SW managed to stay at target for life - SW would soon be out of business as nobody would be paying for classes.
 
The fact that some consultants are still coming out with deep fried potatoes at wetherspoons and chickens injected with oil as well as a whole load of other myths i am highly dubious that any of this is true. I will eat my words if it ever becomes official, being able to flexi syn on a regular basis will never work in my opinion. For any weight loss plan to work, there needs to be some restrictions.

I am in no way saying your consultant is wrong, but i always take new rules and changes to the plan that i read on here and anywhere els with a pinch of salt unless i see it on the sw website or their official documentation
 
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The fact that some consultants are still coming out with deep fried potatoes at wetherspoons and chickens injected with oil as well as a whole load of other myths i am highly dubious that any of this is true. I will eat my words if it ever becomes official, being able to flexi syn on a regular basis will never work in my opinion. For any weight loss plan to work, there needs to be some restrictions.

I am in no way saying your consultant is wrong, but i always take new rules and changes to the plan that i read on here and anywhere els with a pinch of salt unless i see it on the sw website or their official documentation


Oh I absolutely agree!
If I read this on here, I probably wouldn't believe it either, not at least until I was told officially, which is why I didn't mention it earlier, ie 5 weeks ago!
And as I said......I'm still doing things the old way.
 
The fact that some consultants are still coming out with deep fried potatoes at wetherspoons and chickens injected with oil as well as a whole load of other myths i am highly dubious that any of this is true. I will eat my words if it ever becomes official, being able to flexi syn on a regular basis will never work in my opinion. For any weight loss plan to work, there needs to be some restrictions.

I am in no way saying your consultant is wrong, but i always take new rules and changes to the plan that i read on here and anywhere els with a pinch of salt unless i see it on the sw website or their official documentation

Consultants coming out with rubbish is so true, only a few weeks ago mine was saying don't eat weatherspoons jacket potatoes as they are deep fried and the fried chips would be better! LOL:rolleyes:
 
Sorry about the long post. I'm not known for being brief with my words !!!

It's not unlimited syns.
It's about using flexi syns to your advantage, so not to make you fail.

As with any changes...it's all about choice. You don't have to follow it....more so because it's obviously not official!

sw has evolved over the years, it's so very different from when I first encountered it 20 years ago.....and it will continue to do so.

Agree. Whether this turns out to be true or not, it's not about saying you can just have whatever you want - flexi syns have always been open about saying that you won't necessarily lose weight but at least you will stay in control. For me, anything that keeps me sticking to the plan will eventually be the best thing for me. I need that flexibility at times and what you have described above is essentially what I do. I stick to the plan the vast majority of the time but on the occasions that I am going to feel really deprived, I have a little bit of whatever it is. I find it difficult to significantly reduce my syns to compensate so if I can manage it, I do but if not, it just goes as an extra.

I always thought the EE plan was a 'strategy' to slow down members losses, to get more money out of them - and now, i think this sounds highly suspicious too.

If you still lose weight, but at a slow pace, but can eat what you like (to a point obv!) then you would keep going on SW. Paying more cos it takes you longer to reach target.

I know this is a business and I accept that there will be a part of that but although EE may slow some people's losses down, for others it will keep them on the plan having the flexibility to have spag bol etc and therefore ultimately be more successful. However I agree with many of the posters that I like the flexibility that green and red bring too and also think it's a shame that SW don't present all 3 to new members (and feature the other plans in the magazines) routinely (some consultants do) and push everyone into EE. Especially for vegetarians it's ridiculous.

I know there will be exceptions, but I don't think I've ever met anyone in person who has lost better on EE than on Red/Green, if they've tried all three. For me, it was a balancing act between what I can eat and what I could potentially lose. I found EE less restricted, but had to balance that off against smaller losses. I'd chose to be slightly more restricted with Red and Green days, and take the bigger losses. I personally don't think it's fair that some SW consultants (most likely from direction from higher up) remove that choice from members by pushing EE and not telling members about the other plans.

I'm not sure. If I'd started with only red or green, I don't think I'd have stuck to the plan as well which for me would almost certainly have meant slower losses. So in it's purest form I agree with you but I think in real life I probably have lost better on EE. Now I do quite a lot of green days so it's good to have a choice.

As far as the commercialism goes, the plan has worked for me. I don't regret a single penny of my spending and am very grateful to SW for helping to teach me a way of eating (hopefully for life) that allows me to 'be normal' and stay in control - whether that's green, red or EE.

Anyway, apologies for repeating myself I think (it's late, I've had a long week....:eek:). Whatever people choose to do, I hope you are all successful :)

Gail x
 
Hmmmm this is interesting !! Ill have to re-read this again in the morning to check I fully understand it but its something to think about !

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I stick to the plan the vast majority of the time but on the occasions that I am going to feel really deprived, I have a little bit of whatever it is. I find it difficult to significantly reduce my syns to compensate so if I can manage it, I do but if not, it just goes as an extra.

So what you do is flexi synning under its current definition. Doing it on the odd occasion in full acceptance that you may not lose that week. That's very different to SW saying you can now do it on a regular basis. Even doing that once a week, say for a saturday night out, could really make your losses grind to a halt.
 
Maybe, because the OP's consultant is such a good one the group is being trialled for this. Though i am a bit confused because for the last 8 months on SW it has always been the case that you didn't have to eat all your healthy extras (according to the SW site) so i don't know whats new about that!

Flex synning more regularly could go both ways - highly dependent on your personality i reckon. A fair fee have a flexi syn day weekly anyway so not much difference there!

For those of your sceptical of SW's motives - remember their job is to help you lose & keep excess weight off - it would be commercial suicide to put in place rules which stopped this happening & they would have no way of knowing what % of their members would have slower losses as a result of either this or the extra easy plan (i am one of those who has better losses on extra easy just to be arkward!) Such a suspicious lot you are :)
 
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