The really slow loss team!

[Flabulous]

Gobolino, thanks - I have one of the SAD lamps you wake up to. Maybe it's because when you are at work, you can't get out into what little sun there may be? Then dark when you leave work blah blah....on top of that the blasted news is so depressing...difficult to avoid completely.

Lou, I so understand. Maybe you should just take a week out, don't go crazy, but it is no different than going out and having a day off and having a big meal out.

We need to be extra kind to ourselves at this time of year....there is a lot of pressure.

Anyway, do try and have a good week all of you torties.

 

[barbs1965]

It is so nice reading how everyone supports each other on here. I hope you feel happier in yourself Lou soon, I must admit I am feeling down I think it must be the time of year, anyway I am self medicating, I am going to start taking st johns wort to see if that will cheer me up and give me more get up and go because mine seems to have gone. I am trying to stop being so obsessed with my weight as well. I weighed myself today and i have stayed the same:sigh: I thought I had been good this week but obviously not. I really wanted to lose this week cos next week I have a christening to go to, the week after I am away for the weekend and then 2 weeks later I am on holiday and then it is Christmas, if I don't start to lose I will be even heavier come the new year, this is getting me down. Sorry to be moaning I know I am lucky that I haven't got much to lose but I am at thepoint where my clothes won't be fitting me and I don't want to buy bigger ones, here I go again -sorry guys. You have all done so well. I will stop rambling now lol, I wish you all good luck for another week

 

[Flabulous]

Barbara you have a little less to lose than me but it is so hard to get that fat to melt.

Makes you wonder if we aren't all meant to be carrying a bit extra, expecially as you get older?

I read somewhere that the menopause automatically brings 10 lbs with it which is to cushion our bones and protect them from becoming brittle. If this is true, then why oh why can't it be openly allowed for.


I blame those damn celebs with their skinny obsessions. Ruined it for us plumper types.

PS I shall join you with the St Johns Wort - I keep forgetting to take my vitamins as well. B12 is very important I think.

 

[Woodland girl]

Tracy's top tips for staying sane in winter:
Eat well- be in control of myself and have lots of soup ready!
Go outside: whatever the weather, dress up and go out in the daylight
Stare at trees, birds, the sea whatever you can. I find watching a little group of birds hopping about or leaves flapping and spinning so peaceful.
Go outside! I know I said that one but daylight is our friend
Switch off the tv, read a book, play a game, go to the pub, watch the fire... Life is not like the tv people , adverts are not reality. We need to get away!
( just my thoughts and works for me!) have a great grey windy and wet day!!)

 

[barbs1965]

Barbara you have a little less to lose than me but it is so hard to get that fat to melt.

Makes you wonder if we aren't all meant to be carrying a bit extra, expecially as you get older?

I read somewhere that the menopause automatically brings 10 lbs with it which is to cushion our bones and protect them from becoming brittle. If this is true, then why oh why can't it be openly allowed for.

I reckon the NHS make up all this bmi stuff and going on about obesity, cholesterol etc. so they can turn round in the future and say we are not entitled to treatment because we are obese, even though ten years ago we would not have been thought so!

I blame those damn celebs with their skinny obsessions. Ruined it for us plumper types.

OK rant over.

PS I shall join you with the St Johns Wort - I keep forgetting to take my vitamins as well. B12 is very important I think.

Thanks Flabulous, I never thought of the menopause but I do feel even when I weigh less I am rounder in the middle than I used to be and I have a muffin top which had never been an issue before. Thinking about it I probably have one or two other symptons ie feeling down, well the st johns wort should sort that and I will just have to accept that it is going to be slowly slowly to lose the weight. I will try what you said woodland girl and try and spend more time outside maybe go for a walk on a day like today which looks nice and crisp and cold

 

[Flabulous]

I call the roundness, the weeble effect.

I think I noticed my body changing shape around 36. There were these pads of fat forming at my back and I mentioned them to a friend who told me they are "love handles"!!

I had not changed weight wise, but the fat was kind of shifting to other places.

It is utterly depressing. Also I think we can trap ourselves in trying to get back to how we were and this is probably not even possible.

Somehow we have to get to be the best of where we are now if you see what I mean?

It's a shiny new week (even if it is grey, dull and drizzly) and the possibilities for improvement are always there!!

PS I removed my rant about the NHS as it's probably just me being silly, but I do think the goal posts have been moved.

 

[Pommette]

It's classic middle aged spread. It really is a known medical effect of getting older. The waistline thickens and you get a little roll just below your belly button.

As you say Flabulous, it is probably not possible to get back to the shape we were in our 20's. I've given up trying and have accepted that 1 stone over my "ideal" weight is where I shall stop.

And so to me - it's been cold here and I've been having lots of EE or green days to have some carbs and that's fatal for me.

With the result that I have a gain this week - okay it's only a ¼ lb GAIN which is okay considering I was 1 lb up after a pasta fest on Saturday night. But that's 2 gains in a row. Grrrrrrrr

So that leaves me 1¾ lbs from target - almost where I was 4 weeks ago. Even bigger Grrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[GrannieAnnie]

Had a bad day yesterday and mucked up my hex`s.

Intended to have a green day.
Hexa`s milk & philli cheese
Hexb`s 57g pork & wholemeal pitta.

Realised too late that my philli was garlic & herb so not hexa. By then I`d had a glass of wine and a curly wurly. So went well over my syn allowance.

Feeling fed up with myself :sigh:

 

[conlou1]

i messaged my consultant yesterday as reached crisis point i was ready to jack it all in, i had pizza and chip loads of chocolate just went on a crazy binge. im having a secret weigh in tomorrow it will be logged onto the machine but she isnt going to tell me or write it in my book cos i said i cant face seeing the gain even though i KNOW its a bad one...i had a peek on my scales and it says 6 pound so really dont need to be seeing anywhere near that amount officially. i have had my shopping delivered today and have had a 100% day so far, im taking this week as a fresh start, i know i dont get weighed til tomorrow but i have started a new food diary today and am just going to go monday to monday with my syns allowance in the hope that i will binge less on a sunday. i am glad i had my pig out cos it made me feel physically rubbish, the pizza was yuk and the chocolate gave me yet another migraine (really suffering with them atm) my c said theres a lady on the sw website who has lost weight and has pcos so heading there in a min to have a read cos i need inspiration, i feel like everything is against me atm and need to find motivation. my poor little girl is really ill aswell, we all have some weird head cold virus type thing and im nt getting any sleep cos im up with the 2 little ones all night, and sleep deprivation increases your appetite, so like i sayjust feel like everything is against me. im taking my agnus castus, evening primrose, cod liver oil and multi vitamins again, and am going to try some st johns wort cos i really need to snap out of this awful mood im in. i reckon a hot bath and decent sleep would probably work wonders but chance would be a fine thing!!

 

[barbs1965]

It's terrible how we let food rule our lives, if we have several sins too many we feel it is the end of the world. I would love to not have to worry but I know if I don't watch what I eat I will put loads of weight on, that is proved when I go on my hols.

Well I am taking my st johns wort for 2 days now,and I did some gardening for 3/4 hr, hubby isn't too happy because he thinks I have killed a bush or 2 lol but I don't care because I do feel a bit happier in myself.

Just never got round to making sugar free jelly for after my tea instead of another mullerlight yoghurt. At the moment i am having 3 a day and am trying to cut back on them because I am sure they are not helping even though they are free?

Just to get back to this weeble effect or middle aged spread, a friend told me a while ago that hula hooping would help. I am not sure whether I should do this because a few years ago i had a car accident which affected my hip and now in the morning I can hardly get out of bed or bend, after 1/2 hr or so it is ok but I am getting the odd twinge of pain in the day. Do you think hula hooping could help or could it make it worse? I thought I would use the wii and maybe get up a few minutes earlier each day and do a few minutes, what does anyone think?

 

[conlou1]

It's terrible how we let food rule our lives, if we have several sins too many we feel it is the end of the world. I would love to not have to worry but I know if I don't watch what I eat I will put loads of weight on, that is proved when I go on my hols.

Well I am taking my st johns wort for 2 days now,and I did some gardening for 3/4 hr, hubby isn't too happy because he thinks I have killed a bush or 2 lol but I don't care because I do feel a bit happier in myself.

Just never got round to making sugar free jelly for after my tea instead of another mullerlight yoghurt. At the moment i am having 3 a day and am trying to cut back on them because I am sure they are not helping even though they are free?

Just to get back to this weeble effect or middle aged spread, a friend told me a while ago that hula hooping would help. I am not sure whether I should do this because a few years ago i had a car accident which affected my hip and now in the morning I can hardly get out of bed or bend, after 1/2 hr or so it is ok but I am getting the odd twinge of pain in the day. Do you think hula hooping could help or could it make it worse? I thought I would use the wii and maybe get up a few minutes earlier each day and do a few minutes, what does anyone think?

maybe speak to your doctor first if you have an injury as some injurys can be helped by doing exercises in that area and it can strengthen the area but some injuries need exercise that avoids that area..only your doctor can advise on this hun. walking is always a good all rounder though. i have the 30 days shred dvd that i need to start doing.

 

[gobolino]

Well sorry to report I'm in a grump...... it looks like the winter has started to make all of us want more carbs I'm no different and after a good couple of weeks beautifully on plan, even when on hols, I've now had a blip too. M+S sandwhich, veggie percy pigs, granola square, shortbread, small toast, grapenuts/all bran, baileys coffee ! I hate blips, I blame it being a monday and the first day back at work after a week and a day off. Still suffering with sore throat and cold too Hope to resume normal service soon, although tomorrows weigh in is not looking too friendly now!

On the plus side I did get out and walk to M+S at lunch time Totally agree with getting outside, its definitely a big mood booster

 

[felicity62]

It's terrible how we let food rule our lives, if we have several sins too many we feel it is the end of the world. I would love to not have to worry but I know if I don't watch what I eat I will put loads of weight on, that is proved when I go on my hols.

Well I am taking my st johns wort for 2 days now,and I did some gardening for 3/4 hr, hubby isn't too happy because he thinks I have killed a bush or 2 lol but I don't care because I do feel a bit happier in myself.

Just never got round to making sugar free jelly for after my tea instead of another mullerlight yoghurt. At the moment i am having 3 a day and am trying to cut back on them because I am sure they are not helping even though they are free?

Just to get back to this weeble effect or middle aged spread, a friend told me a while ago that hula hooping would help. I am not sure whether I should do this because a few years ago i had a car accident which affected my hip and now in the morning I can hardly get out of bed or bend, after 1/2 hr or so it is ok but I am getting the odd twinge of pain in the day. Do you think hula hooping could help or could it make it worse? I thought I would use the wii and maybe get up a few minutes earlier each day and do a few minutes, what does anyone think?

I would definitely seek some advice, but it depends upon your doctors knowledge about injuries really. i would ask them for physiotherapy in this situation, they will be the best to advise you (physio). NOt allot of doctors are very good with these types of injuries.If you have hospital fund or cash to spare a good chiropractor is worth their weight in gold. i am a fitness instructor and nurse and that is what i would advise my girls. Come to my pole dancing class hun that will sort ya out !!

 

[felicity62]

Lou, if this were me writing this on here what would you say to me? i want to hug you as it is very easy to get this way, it spooks me because i have fallen of the wagon as well. my weekend has seen me try foods that i have avoided for ages!! lets do it again hun, are you pre menstrual at all?

 

[conlou1]

felicity...i have no clue if im premenstrual this is part of the problem, i havent had a period since may 2010 (i have had a baby in that time but still not normal as im not breast feeding and shes 7 months old) i got diagnosed years ago with pcos, i have been back to the doctors but he isnt interested, he said as my hubby has had the snip there is no point me going on the contraceptive pill and wants to leave it til the end of january. my stomach is massive today, i look about 4 months pregnant and got all the pre menstrual symptms, like i do every 2 weeks, but it always comes to nothing. its making me feel really fed up now. i am taking 4 different types of natural tablets to try get things moving so hopefully theyll kick in soon.ive been really good today so hoping that my mood lifts soon and i feel better.

sorry you other ladies are going through the same thing, winter officially sucks!! hopefully my 2 babies feel better tomorrow so i can get out for a walk, ill go get some st johns wort see if that helps.

on a positive note i have stocked my fridge with pickled onions so i can take pleasure in stinking the hubby out again heeheehee

 

[Latte]

I have also had a few days off plan as I have been feeling so awful. Went to walk in centre tonight and I still have an infection so he changed my anti biotics. Now on another weeks worth.
Dinner was a bag of pick and mix.

Weigh in tomorrow then we fly first thing Wednesday morning so I will try to update.

Lou you need to push to see a specialist. I am on metformin and it has been amazing for me x

 

[Flabulous]

Just reporting in - have had a 100% green day today. Only 1 a and 1 b and 7 syns max.

Big hugs to all us Saddies - I don't think I ever saw a more grey and drizzly day as today. V. depressing.

Hopefully we can get out acts together very soon. Think I am going to have to cut out chocolate now. Have realised finally that it definitely adds to my indegestion problems.

I gave up alcohol many years ago and it made not a jot of difference to my weight so not sure if stopping eating chocolate will either but it will be interesting to see.

I don't think you can ever have enough syns for chocolate - I love to binge on it or there's no point!

 

[felicity62]

felicity...i have no clue if im premenstrual this is part of the problem, i havent had a period since may 2010 (i have had a baby in that time but still not normal as im not breast feeding and shes 7 months old) i got diagnosed years ago with pcos, i have been back to the doctors but he isnt interested, he said as my hubby has had the snip there is no point me going on the contraceptive pill and wants to leave it til the end of january. my stomach is massive today, i look about 4 months pregnant and got all the pre menstrual symptms, like i do every 2 weeks, but it always comes to nothing. its making me feel really fed up now. i am taking 4 different types of natural tablets to try get things moving so hopefully theyll kick in soon.ive been really good today so hoping that my mood lifts soon and i feel better.

sorry you other ladies are going through the same thing, winter officially sucks!! hopefully my 2 babies feel better tomorrow so i can get out for a walk, ill go get some st johns wort see if that helps.

on a positive note i have stocked my fridge with pickled onions so i can take pleasure in stinking the hubby out again heeheehee

of course, i now look like i never read your posts! I knew that but i didnt realise how bad it was. you should seek a second opinion and ask to be referred to a specialist in this area, you are within your rights to be referred (dont let them tell you otherwise) be assertive about it. I couldnt take st johns wart....metformin seems the way forward. are their NICE guidelines for this condition? they will guide you for your rights etc especially for your gp !!

 

[Annya]

are their NICE guidelines for this condition? they will guide you for your rights etc especially for your gp !!

I do some work with NICE as part fo my job, but under the auspices of venous thromboembolism.

I've just checked on the site, but it appears the only gudielines are an optimal practice review about the use of GHT in ovulation induction for fertility issues and they date back to 2007. Here's a link if you are interested..........

 

[conlou1]

when i went to the doctor years ago i was struggling to concieve and just wasnt having periods, anyway, i got referred to an endocrinologist (sp) and he only saw me once and said i had pcos looking at my blood results etc and said it was upto me if i wanted metformin or clomid (i cant remember which now) i could have it but i cant remember why now but we agreed to wait a little longer and i did get pregnant, i ended up miscarrying unfortunately but at least i got pregnant, anyway i managed to get pregnant with my daughter a year and a half after that, then got caught really quickly with my other daughter without trying (total accident tbh) btu its like everything has ground to a halt again. the doctor told me years ago that they only tend to refer you if your having fertility problems as if not they dont see it as an issue to have absent or irregular periods ? i dont really want to take hormones if im honest as the pill gives me bad bad panic attacks to the point i cant leave the house and im scared that taking anything else would do the same but i would like them to test my hormone levels again to see what is going on. i have been really good at rememebering to take the agnus castus which was what got my periods going before, i actually was having a period every 5-7 weeks!!!! which was the most regular ive ever been. im going to do what he said and wait until the end of january and just try to cope with the symptoms and see if my periods get going again if not ill be asking for tests to be done again. but this is why im struggling again atm cos my moods are all over, and im a big comfort eater. also in the past as ive lost weight and stabilised my insulin levels my periods have regulated even more, so i just need to stick at it for my health if anything else.

feeling a bit better today, and going to force myself out for a walk with the girls, i really cant be bothered but i need some fresh air to snap me out of this stupid foul mood im in. im having a secret weigh in tonight, so i wont know how much ive gained until i go again next week cos i said to my c that i just cant face seeing another gain i will just end up quitting. i was really good yesterday and am just eating normally today before i go.

why cant you take st johns wort felicity? x