Another newbie with some questions

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  1. chiefdave

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    So as of yesterday I'm joining you all on the Xenical so I thought I'd give you a bit of background. Never been what you'd call small (noone in my family is) but I was also around 15 stone and fairly active.

    To cut a long story short around 5 years ago I changed jobs and became deskbound and surprise surprise the weight piled on. Didn't really notice at first as I'm generally a jeans and t-shirt kinda guy I wasn't doing loads of clothes shopping and only noticed when nothing fit me any more - and I mean nothing in the store not nothing in the wardrobe!

    Anyway the move to XXL shirts was the wake up call and with the help of the nurse at my local GP I worked on shifting the weight. Did well for the first 12 months and lost a fair bit. Then I managed to injure myself at the gym and got put on Reductil to stop the weight piling on while I couldn't work out.

    Did the trick but once I started backup again it wouldn't budge. They tried me on all sorts of diet and tested me for everything under the sun - even sent me to a specialist but even they gave up in the end!

    I've put on a bit of what I lost but not much but I'm not losing anymore which is the big problem as I need to lose another 7 stone. While I was in the doctors I mention alli that is advertised anyway and she said don't bother paying for it we'll give you Xenical. They aren't convinced it's going to do anything mind as I wasn't eating badly before but at this stage anything is worth a try.

    So my aim is to lose 7ish stone which at around 2lb a week (which my doctor tells me is what I'm aiming for) will take around a year.

    Anyway onto the questions. Both on a similar theme, how do you guys cope with nights out? The thing I'm worried about is work nights out. Admittedly there's only about 2 a year but it normally involves a curry house and lots of things that I shouldn't be eating. Do I just not eat or can you take a 'night off' if you miss the pill with that particular meal? Obviously I don't want to be skipping pills all over the place and pigging out but a couple of nights a year with no worry about embarrasment would be nice!

    And in a similar vein what about alcohol? I'm not a big drinker at the best of times but is it a big no no or ok?
     
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    Hi there & welcome :)

    Did the Drs say what they would do if the Xenical doesn`t work for you? I also eat quite healthily and exercise etc and tbh I`m only losing about 1lb a week which is very frustrating :( So I don`t know what other options I could try as over eating etc isn`t my problem!

    As for your nights out, Sometimes there are healthier options depending where you are going but if it came to it I would either give the pill a miss or just take it a bit later when I got home (you have up to 1 hour to take it after eating).

    Alcohol doesn`t tend to have too much fat in it depending what you drink, I think it is more cals?

    Guiness isn`t too bad for fat ;) and Vodka is also low on cals (sound like an alkie now LOL)

    Good Luck with your weightloss!!

    LiSe Xxxx
     
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    hello welcome and good luck with xenical i am only into my 2nd week and still sussing it out i had lost 2 stone over 3 years i am a very slow loser and am on this to try and speed it up a bit and it seems to be at the moment. i think if i was going out for special occasion i would either suffer consiquences if not to higher fat meal or miss the pill for that meal:D ask at the resturant for the low fat options alot will cook food with out adding any oil if you ask:)
     
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    I know how you feel! tbh i don't think they were planning on giving it to me, it was just a case of me going in and asking about it. They seemed to have pretty much given up.

    At first when nothing was happening they tried all sorts of different diets (such as different calories levels, low fat, low GI, cutting out certain things, eating at different times etc etc).

    Then they ran all sorts of tests - I can't really remember what all of them were but I must have had 10 blood samples taken for various things.

    We discussed surgery briefly but they said that as it wasn't what I was eating it wasn't likely to do anything (which I think is the same reason they never tried Xenical initially).

    The specialist I got sent to finally gave up and said basically the body has a natural weight it wants to be and if that's higher than you want it to be there may not be a great deal that can be done about it.

    So does missing just the pill with that particular mean = no unwanted side effects? That’s good to know. Like I said it’s only likely to be very very occasional and even then I would of course go for the healthy option but just for peace of mind I may skip a pill on those occasions.
     
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    You will be hard pushed to find much in a curry house that is low fat, so if it were me id have the treat and miss the pill, coz as you say its not a regular thing.

    I wish you all the best with your continuing weightloss journey, and hope that xenical is the kickstart your body needs.
     
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    welcome and good luck xxxxx
     
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    thanks - so far so good!
     
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    hi im in my 1st week too and so far its going ok and im resisting the scales :)
     
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    Good luck with the xenical, personally i'd be very tempted not to have pills for the whole day. I tried xenical a few years ago and after having two 'accidents' i decided enough was enough. Be very careful what you eat, i hope it goes well for you.
     
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    If you stick to the rules you shouldnt see any 'accidents'! I never have had any and its the same for many other people!

    his tablet gets so many bad reviews and it scares thelife outta people!! Its really not that bad!!

    Love katie
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    i will second that kae, i have had no accidents and when i am really good nothing to notice in the toilet department at all. this tablet does not deserve the bad press it gets:D
     
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    Your right, probably i would have been okay if i had actually been told more than eat a low fat diet... When i did have 'accidents' i cant remember having anything that was particularly high in fat. But then manufacturers were very good at hiding fat or fatty foods with fancy names on products...
     
  14. kae

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    Yeah defo agree on that one!! There are so many things hidden in food is any wonder were still alive lol!!

    My doctor was really pants at explaining things too!! I got alll my info from this site.... mind you stickin to it is a different matter lol

    xxxxx
     
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    resisting the scales is almost as hard as eating the right things! I've decided on every Monday to weigh in but it's very tempting to have a quick check to see how things are going.

    don't think my doctor actually told me anything about it, just told me to take them and make an appointment with the nurse for when I'm about to run out so she can check I'm not about to drop down dead!!!
     
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    another with a pants doctor, thank heavens for this site :) ive decided on a fri weigh in but saw a diff doc today and he didnt seem to care so didnt weigh me :( forgot to do it today but will try the wii tomorow :)
     
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    Hiya Dave and welcome to minimins and xenical, good luck with your weightloss journey. As for the currys and missing pills and not having effects i know it says that that pills don't stay in your system longer than an hour however we went away for our anniversary last week and i didn't take the pills, as it turned out we only actually had 1 meal that wasn't healthy but bearing in mind i hadn't had the pills for 3 days i didn't have any "accidents" however had very bad gas and the (sorry TMI) the orange oily bowel movements.

    On the weightloss front or rather, lack of, it's interesting what you said about all the tests and diets you've been on etc my auntie had a metabolic test done several years ago as she was in a similar situation and basically every time she did lose any weight it soon piled back on even if she did not alter her healthy eating/exercise regime. This test showed that her metabolic rate was so slowed she could only consume 300kcals per day before gaining weight so basically shes screwed. To be fair she's not gained any more weight however she's not able to lose any either and i often wonder if this is some form of genetic abnormality as every member of that side of the family (myself included) is obese if not morbidly and infact I have the lowest BMI at 39.5 and we all present in the same way, lose a few stone but unable to lose any more than that and gain weight without changing diet. Would be very interesting to find out.

    Anyway sorry for waffling but it does make you think, but fingers crossed the xenical will work for all of us and we'll all be able to lose this excess weight :)
     
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    So glad I am not the only one with a rubbish GP. She just told me that I would get diarrhoea if I ate fat. Yeah thanks for that lol

    Am new here too and starting on Monday (and stopping smoking) so am spending this evening searching this site for meal ideas and the best low fat choices.

    Is all so daunting.

    All the best on your weight loss.

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    quick update, 2 weeks in and 8lbs off and no side effects! Have been pretty careful with my evening meal but the rest of the day i've been eating the same as I did before.

    Managed to eat out for the first time yesterday when the parents were down. Sunday lunch at a local pub, was pretty worried and scouted out where the loos were in case of emergency but no problem at all. Got home and went to do my wii fit and it told me to take a day off as I was doing too much!!!

    Sure 4lbs a week won't keep up but so long as it keeps going down all is good.
     
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    congrats Dave thats a fantastic start, when you say you are eating the same as before in the day what are you having?? and are you taking the tablets during the day?
    love the wii telling you to have a day off mine just laughes at my mii as it looks like a blob on the screen :)
     
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    Well done you!!! your doing great!!
     
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