I agree with what you said Noodles. I think we have to accept that we are all going to cheat a little .....after all what is life about but to enjoy something every now and again. If we look at it over a week, S&S is allowing us about 6-700 calories a day. That's an awful lot less than what we were all eating prior to starting the diet. Another 600 - 1000 calories over the week (a couple of packs of bacon) is still allowing us to lose weight far quicker than if we were on SW or WW. My attitude is that as long as I don't do it every day, and maybe allow a small cheat once a week, then I'm doing really well. My friend lost three stone on LL....but if she was invited out to dinner, she still went. She only went once a week maximum, usually far less, but she still went out and had a good time. She declined carbs, alcohol and dessert, but lost three stone in four months. That to me is amazing! Her attitude was that she had a life, and she wasn't going to stop it for a diet. It taught her self control and two years later she has kept the weight off.