Dispatches: Expose of Weight Watchers

Discussion in 'Slimming World' started by gazter, 29 January 2013.

  1. gazter

    gazter needs to get a life

    My post was edited as it infringed some rules, i think the point i made was fair, but not my forum, not my rules.
    Last edited: 29 January 2013
  2. gazter

    gazter needs to get a life

    My post was edited as it infringed some rules, i think the point i was made was fair, but not my forum, not my rules
    Last edited: 29 January 2013
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  3. emmag3662

    emmag3662 Well-Known Member

    Grr can't believe I missed this :-(
  4. toxicsgrl

    toxicsgrl Well-Known Member

    Last edited: 29 January 2013
  5. She gets ALL of the takings from the night? I don't think so. The more members a consultant has, the larger the percentage of the takings he or she gets to keep, but a lot of it goes to SW. And the margins on sales items are very small.

    Of course consultants are running a business - one could hardly expect them to work for nothing.

    And yes they do care.

    I know a number of consultants, and they are always delighted when their members get to target, even though target members don't pay.
  6. Starlight

    Starlight Well-Known Member

    Can I just say as a current WW member our class has a shop but our class leader has never once pushed selling stuff. I've actually never bought anything at class and never felt under any kind of pressure to. The only time she's mentioned the shop to me was my first week just as part of her introduction talk and it was more in a casual 'it's there' way.

    She most certainly never tries a hard sell
  7. Lonestitcher

    Lonestitcher Well-Known Member

    Re: the Haagan-Das vs WW dessert - I can't remember - did the presenter actually tell you the points for the Haagan-Das? Was it even comparable to the points in the WW dessert? Of course the ingredients would be more 'un-natural' in the WW dessert, as the nutritionist stated, if you take out something (ie, fats or sugar) then you must replace it with something else to ensure a pleasurable taste.

    As for the 'reporting' - totally biased.

    Of course as a business WW products would be encouraged (I'm loathed to say 'pushed' as I've never been to a WW meeting) and why not charge more for the WW branded things? The people on WW have options to eat non-WW branded foods, yet are more likely to pick WW branded things as the ProPoints are already printed on the packages.

    As for this talk of your imaginary God, well..... (Let's see how many people I can upset with THAT one!!! lol)
  8. lardylady

    lardylady Well-Known Member

    When I went to WW, the leader had a table of WW goodies out but certainly didn't push them on us!
  9. Potato

    Potato Well-Known Member

    I couldn't agree more, Gazter. It was pure lazy journalism, using the NHS expenditure on WW to rile the excitable Daily Mail reading audience. £4million since 2007? It sounded like WW brings in much more than that to the economy & helps people eat healthier, win win.
  10. *sarah-lou*

    *sarah-lou* Well-Known Member

    I noticed they never mention sf and at the end of the day the reason people put the weight back on is because they are flawed not because the plan is flawed.

    Utter biased non sense. Really annoyed me when the asian dietican said healthy eating and exercise is the best way to lose weight. Now you can still gain weight eating a balanced diet as you could easily eat 2000 cals during a balanced diet so you would not neccisarily lose weight unless you also reduced portion sizes and limited fat intake.

    Atleast weight watchers try.

    I bet you would die sooner eating all that fat in a tub of hagen daaz than you would from the stabiliser in a wwers ice cream.

    Never heard any one dying from xanthan gum but definatly have from heart diesease due to cholesterol from tons of saturated fat thay hagen daaz just happens to be full of!
  11. Gallifreya

    Gallifreya Well-Known Member

    Hmm, will have to watch this one on catch-up later.
  12. kingleds

    kingleds Well-Known Member

    Actually they'd be more likely to get some dentists on to go on about how Slimming encourages you to eat unlimited fruit & it's bad for your teeth :) personally I'd rather have bad teeth & no heart disease thanks.

    I didn't watch the programme so I won't comment on it specifically, but what I will say us the media bias against any slimming club is getting most tiresome. Do we really live in a society were people are surprised that a company are making money out of people trying to lose weight? Honestly????

    And the insistence of the media that slimming clubs don't promote a healthy way of eating due to the ingredients in their own products. Grrrr. You don't HAVE to eat those things. A lot of people get by just fine eating non processed, non sweetener laden foods on both SW & WW. It's about choice!

    The media needs to decide who the enemy is. Either it's fat people taking up NHS resources or the groups attempting to help them solve this problem (for a profit) - they seem to want it both ways at the moment. Maybe they are all scared that we may all be successful at this losing weigh thing & they will have to engage their brains a bit more to figure out whom they can direct their moral outrage on.
  13. *sarah-lou*

    *sarah-lou* Well-Known Member

    Maybe the NHS are just gutted they didnt think about opening a slimming club and making millions.
  14. kingleds

    kingleds Well-Known Member

  15. pinkx

    pinkx Well-Known Member

    Aw sad I missed this but sounds like a complete waste of time. Yea it would be nice if we could all lose weight alone. I don't go to meetings but I do subscribe to the magazine. It's just whatever works for ppl. 5 pound a week is not a waste of money if it inspires you to continue or picks you up when you are down. Certainly better for you than gastric surgery
  16. sparty

    sparty Well-Known Member

    I spotted this programme last night and asked my bf to tape it so haven't watched it properly yet. But the clip I saw was the reporter (I assume) trying to say that the classes were a rip off.

    I don't go to class as I don't feel I would benefit from it and I haven't the money to pay each week - that's my personal choice. But who is she to say that they are a waste of time.

    A lot of people get a lot out of classes as they can talk to other members about why their losses are small, swap recipe ideas and help each other plan for events. It's not only the counsellor that provides support so for people who say counsellors don't care if people lose or gain.....who gives a damn?! Because people wouldn't give up their time and money each week if they weren't getting something out of it!!! And for every 'bad' class there is a good one so if people aren't getting help then they should swap groups.

    SW is a support group and I for one have never seen any SW branded food during my supermarket shop!!! There is no need for branded diet meals when there is so much free food choice. But if some people find it easier to use pre packed meals, I don't see the problem. It's surely better than eating a Big Mac?!

    Can't wait to watch it now lol
  17. i_am_plankton

    i_am_plankton Well-Known Member

    I recorded this and will find time tomorrow to watch it. I don't go to SW class but I do pay for their online membership and have recently subscribed to the magazine, I will continue to pay for the membership of both even when I have reached target as nothing tastes as good as being slimmer feels :-D
    I've known people who have done both WW and SW, of the people who have done WW, not one of them managed to keep the weight off, whereas the people that have done SW, only a few of them put back on - most of them have kept it off. That's inspiration enough to stick with and support SW :-D
  18. stevie.J

    stevie.J Well-Known Member

    Gonna look on 4oD for this sounds interesting
  19. donna88

    donna88 Well-Known Member

    I watched this yesterday with my boyfriend and I actually don't think I have anything to add, we said everything that you've just said Gazer.

    I actually laughed when they compared the ice-creams, how can you compare plain vanilla ice-cream with a flavoured ice-cream and expect them to have the same amount of ingredients in them. Also of course other things are added to low fat foods.

    To be fair I'm not surprised though, dispatches is an awful program.
  20. starburst85

    starburst85 Well-Known Member

    I too attend class and for them to say it is a waste of money isn't a true representation of everyone. I think yes some people can go it alone, I myself am not one of those people. I first joined over a year ago and lost almost 2 stone. I then believed I could go it alone at this point I left however without the regular weigh in and support I gained all but 8lbs in 3 months. I need the help and support of the group to keep me on track. So I dont see my 4.95 as a waste of money. It works for me.

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